Re: what is LCs output for different platforms?

2013-02-08 Thread Monte Goulding
The engine is a mash up of c++ and platform obj-c on iOS and java on android. Our scripts are compiled as they are loaded into memory not at runtime. Really looking forward to understanding more how it all works! -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for

AW: what is LCs output for different platforms?

2013-02-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Thanks for the info Monte Tiemo > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag > von Monte Goulding > Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Februar 2013 09:05 > An: How to use LiveCode > Betreff: Re: what is LCs output for different platforms? >

Re: what is LCs output for different platforms?

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Smith
Monte Goulding wrote > The engine is a mash up of c++ and platform obj-c on iOS and java on > android. Our scripts are compiled as they are loaded into memory not at > runtime. Interesting. I've never heard of that model before. A load-time compiler? So it neither distributes compiled binaries (m

Re: Answer File crashes LC on PPC Mac 10.4

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Smith
dfepstein wrote > This very simple script crashes LC on the Mac Mini: i'd report it to support. -- Mark -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Answer-File-crashes-LC-on-PPC-Mac-10-4-tp4660313p4660336.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list ar

Re: Answer File crashes LC on PPC Mac 10.4

2013-02-08 Thread Richmond
On 02/08/2013 02:28 PM, Mark Smith wrote: dfepstein wrote This very simple script crashes LC on the Mac Mini: i'd report it to support. And, while you are waiting for that to be sorted out (which could be a long wait) I would get my hands on an earlier version for PPC builds. Richmond. -

Re: what is LCs output for different platforms?

2013-02-08 Thread Peter W A Wood
It is possible to create a binary executable with most scripting languages by building a binary that includes a full copy of the script interpreter and the script in source form. It is typically referred to as encapping a script. I'm sure this is the process with LiveCode. The technique is even

Re: what is LCs output for different platforms?

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Smith
Peter W A Wood wrote > It is possible to create a binary executable with most scripting languages > by building a binary that includes a full copy of the script interpreter > and the script in source form. It is typically referred to as encapping a > script. I'm sure this is the process with LiveCo

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > JB- > > Thursday, February 7, 2013, 6:04:17 PM, you wrote: > >> How does it look now? > > The headers look fine to me. Guess we'll have to wait to hear back > from Rick. Not to me. Full headers below: Delivered-To: pmb...@gmail.com Received: by

Stack formats and the O-S version.

2013-02-08 Thread Richmond
As, presumably, the O-S version of Livecode will enable everyone to open stacks whether they are in the pre-2.7, the pre-5.5 or the post 5.5 format why doesn't RunRev (or someone authorised by them) release a small widget to open post 5.5 stacks and offer to save them in either the pre-2.7 or th

Calling all Facebook denizens.

2013-02-08 Thread Richmond
I have just seen the most recent video put out by Livecode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghvYqwsgsmI&feature=share and feel that it says a lot more than the previous offerings, so have posted it on my Facebook page with the following: "Why crawl to one's goal with overly verbose and complex C

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Friday, February 8, 2013, 5:40:23 AM, you wrote: OK - I'll bite... what's wrong with those headers? I see sund...@pacifier.com as the authenticated sender. The message came from the smtp server at pacifier.net and originated from a machine with a dhcp address from iinet.com over a secure c

Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Damn, I just had another Hard drive crash and burn. That's One computer and my two 'oldest' WD hard drives in two months. I will never buy another WD drive again. Period. What I lost was my 'daily' time machine backups this time. I had already just added a second new HD to the time machine setu

[ANN] Greater Toronto Area LiveCode User Group (gTALUG) Meetup

2013-02-08 Thread Martin Koob
I had some positive response to setting up a meetup for LiveCoders in Toronto so I decided to set up a meetup.com group. http://www.meetup.com/Greater-Toronto-Area-LiveCode-Users-Group/ On the site I have posted suggestions for a first meetup. If you are in the area please join and RSVP. Martin

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Colin Holgate
I have a 2TB WD drive, and so far that's going well. It's my Time Machine drive, and has a backup of several older drives that have died. I may get another one, to have a complete clone of the first one. Hopefully my luck will hold out. Have you thought about SSD drives? I have a 750 GB one in

How to disable exit from an Android app

2013-02-08 Thread tbodine
Hi all. I'm working on a kiosk project and need a way to block the user from quitting or switching out of the LiveCode app on an Android tablet. Is that possible with LiveCode or with an external? Thanks, Tom Bodine -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.c

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Colin, I have the fusion hybrid drive right now that is both an SSD and traditional drive in my new 27" iMac. Very very fast. As prices come down I plan on looking into some kind of external drive that is straight SSD. Tom -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com On Feb 8

Re: How to disable exit from an Android app

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
Try trapping shutdownRequest. Bob On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:48 AM, tbodine wrote: > Hi all. > > I'm working on a kiosk project and need a way to block the user from > quitting or switching out of the LiveCode app on an Android tablet. Is that > possible with LiveCode or with an external? > > Than

Re: How to disable exit from an Android app

2013-02-08 Thread Colin Holgate
Some searching will find things like this: http://www.42gears.com/surelock/surelockandroid.html If iOS ever become an option, iOS 6 has a built in restrictions feature, where you can disable pretty well everything, and yet get back to the home screen if you know the passcode. __

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi JB, Still getting the It looks exactly like the following line: On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:04 PM, JB wrote: > How does it look now? > > -=>JB <=- > > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> >> and more, now that I'm back home and looking at the headers... >> The original messa

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi again JB, Well at least my domain isn't listed anymore. Still getting that @pacifier.com though. Rick (See below) On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, JB wrote: > Okay, thanks. > > -=>JB<=- > > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> JB- >> >> Thursday, February 7, 2013, 6:04:17

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin Holgate writes: > Have you thought about SSD drives? I have a 750 GB one in my MacBook Pro 13 inch, and they are quite fast, and > presumably resistant to head crashes! The problem with pure SSDs is that they have a limited write-cycle lifetime. They're great for storing files (lots of rea

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Colin Holgate
http://maxschireson.com/2011/04/21/debunking-ssd-lifespan-and-random-write-performance-concerns/ On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > >The problem with pure SSDs is that they have a limited write-cycle lifetime. ___ use-livecode mailin

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Pierre Sahores
Mark, Just purchased two 512 Go SSD drives to replace the HDs of my MBPs while one of them went slowing down dramatically over the 15 last days. In reading your post, it seems that my two 2 TB LaCie TimeMachine backUp drives won't become less important than before… Will let know there what the

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/8/13 12:07 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: Hi again JB, Well at least my domain isn't listed anymore. Still getting that @pacifier.com though. Isn't that his correct email? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperact

Re: Stack formats and the O-S version.

2013-02-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/8/13 9:57 AM, Richmond wrote: As, presumably, the O-S version of Livecode will enable everyone to open stacks whether they are in the pre-2.7, the pre-5.5 or the post 5.5 format why doesn't RunRev (or someone authorised by them) release a small widget to open post 5.5 stacks and offer to sav

Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Peter Haworth
Trying to avoid any gotchas before embarking on some work involving background groups and there's precious little information about them. Are there characteristics of background groups other than the background behavior property property that must be consistent on whichever card they are on in ord

Re: Stack formats and the O-S version.

2013-02-08 Thread Richmond
On 02/08/2013 09:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 2/8/13 9:57 AM, Richmond wrote: As, presumably, the O-S version of Livecode will enable everyone to open stacks whether they are in the pre-2.7, the pre-5.5 or the post 5.5 format why doesn't RunRev (or someone authorised by them) release a small

Re: Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Scott Rossi
Hi Pete: "Place" adds an instance of an existing group to a card. Copy & paste creates a new group object. Deleting a group physically deletes it from the stack. Removing a group removes the instance of the group from the card, but doesn't delete the group from the stack. Regards, Scott Rossi

Re: Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Devin Asay
Hi Pete! On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:27 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Trying to avoid any gotchas before embarking on some work involving > background groups and there's precious little information about them. This is how I introduce groups to my students. (Apologies if it's too basic. And I can see now

Re: Answer File crashes LC on PPC Mac 10.4

2013-02-08 Thread Gabriel Johnson
Or, if you have the ability to cheaply do so, you may want to upgrade to OS X 10.5. I have a Mac Mini G4 with OS X 10.5.8 on it- I'm not getting this issue. I had another issue which occurred specifically on a 10.4 G4 machine which is not occurring on this 10.5 Mac Mini G4. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Colin Holgate writes: > > http://maxschireson.com/2011/04/21/debunking-ssd-lifespan-and-random-write-performance-concerns/ Not sure what your point is here. Did you read this? The comments in particular are very instructive. Example: "I have already started reading more complaints in Apple fo

Re: IDE Recent Files list

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter Haworth writes: > Is there a way to clear the contents of the ID File Menu Recent Files list? You might also want to look at the revPreferences stack, and in particular the customproperties "cRecentPaths" and "cRecentStackPaths". I'm not sure why there are two of these, and it's probably j

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread stephen barncard
1. I've been warning people for years about WD drives. The worst. After being burned a few times, by 2004 I've insisted on Seagate and have had one fail out of 20. The MTBFs of the new generation of dense drives are nothing short of amazing. And I run my drives HARD with video and audio work. I do

Re: Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Scott, think I have that straight. On the remove command, I think I'm right in saying that if I remove a group from a card and it's the last instance of the group in the stack, it is still in the stack even though it's not any card. If I subsequently want to put that group back on a card h

Re: Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Peter Haworth
Thanks Devin, perfect write up as usual. Even answered my reply to Scott about how to place a group back on a card after it's been removed from all cards (Place Group on the Object menu). I think I'm good to go now. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Devin Asay wrote: > http://livecode.byu.edu/

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Rick- Friday, February 8, 2013, 10:07:50 AM, you wrote: > Hi again JB, > Well at least my domain isn't listed anymore. > Still getting that @pacifier.com though. ... and ... ? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Peter M. Brigham
I guess it was my mistake -- I thought that the problem was the use of the pacifier.net domain. I really don't understand email headers very well. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:54 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Peter- > > Friday, Fe

Re: what is LCs output for different platforms?

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
They take the engine minus the IDE stuff, and glue your stack to it, including substacks. The engine is I believe written primarily in C++ so I suppose you could tell them that. DBase worked similarly. You could either create a standalone app, or you could include a runtime engine and you source

Re: Calling all Facebook denizens.

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
Duly shared. On Feb 8, 2013, at 8:12 AM, Richmond wrote: > I have just seen the most recent video put out by Livecode: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghvYqwsgsmI&feature=share > > and feel that it says a lot more than the previous offerings, so > have posted it on my Facebook page with the

Re: IDE Recent Files list

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
That may be why sometimes my typically predictable recent file list becomes a mishmash of all sorts of things I never opened. Bob On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Peter Haworth writes: > >> Is there a way to clear the contents of the ID File Menu Recent Files list? > > You

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
WD had a problem with their one gig drives. Apple had to invoke a recall program for them because they put them into iMacs among other things, and the drives went bad typically before the warranty period was up, but many times just after. I also noticed they get hot. VERY hot. Too hot to hold if

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
Love CCC. It will backup the entire hard drive as an exact duplicate, then you can schedule backups that only update the altered files. Why this approach? Because assuming both drives are the same form factor, you can simply replace the defective drive with the backup drive and be up and running

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
It won't. Remember the words of the prophet Murphy. Bob On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I have a 2TB WD drive, and so far that's going well. It's my Time Machine > drive, and has a backup of several older drives that have died. I may get > another one, to have a complete c

Re: Another Hardrive went down!

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
I think it depends on the usage. It also depends on your expectation for a classic drive with no SSD. Most recommend replacing a mission critical drive after 3 years whether or not you need to. Given that, an SSD drive may, with an adequate backup and recovery strategy, be a very good solution f

Re: Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
You've got it. Refer to it by name or ID, assuming your names are unique, or ID. I'm a staunch believer in every object having a unique name anyway, so I prefix all my objects with a 2 or 3 character code like bg, btn, fld, mnu etc. Sorts nicely in lists too. Bob On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:13 PM,

Re: Background groups

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
Ah! I thought you meant place by script. Bob On Feb 8, 2013, at 1:17 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Thanks Devin, perfect write up as usual. Even answered my reply to Scott > about how to place a group back on a card after it's been removed from all > cards (Place Group on the Object menu). > >

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
JB On Feb 7, 2013, at 6:04 PM, JB wrote: > How does it look now? > > -=>JB <=- > > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> >> and more, now that I'm back home and looking at the headers... >> The original message came from >> -= > JB >> >> while the subsequent messages came

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread JB
Hi Rick, Okay, glad to hear things are fine with you. -=>JB<=- On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: > Hi again JB, > > Well at least my domain isn't listed anymore. > > Still getting that @pacifier.com though. > > Rick > > (See below) > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 9:44 PM, JB wrot

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread JB
My email address is sund...@pacifier.com -=>JB<=- On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:22 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 2/8/13 12:07 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: >> Hi again JB, >> >> Well at least my domain isn't listed anymore. >> >> Still getting that @pacifier.com though. > > Isn't that his correct email?

Re: On-Rev websites

2013-02-08 Thread Rick Harrison
Hi JB, Looks like everything is good then. Thank you for your patience. Rick On Feb 8, 2013, at 7:59 PM, JB wrote: > My email address is sund...@pacifier.com > > -=>JB<=- > > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:22 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> On 2/8/13 12:07 PM, Rick Harrison wrote: >>> Hi again JB