Startlingly original:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/next-unit-computing-introduction.html
Notwithstanding; I want one!
Richmond.
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I want one!
+1
In fact, I want one right now :)
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On 03/03/2013 10:48 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote:
On Sunday, March 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Richmond wrote:
I want one!
+1
In fact, I want one right now :)
Something odd though;
on the Bulgarian website they are being sold without RAM
and without data storage cards . . .
that could be
There are some pre-installed packages around;
Gigabyte's i7 version or Velocity's simpler model.
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=239
Not so cheap with its $600 tag, but nearly ¼th of mac mini {in size}.
Looks promising…
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On 03/03/2013 10:57 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote:
There are some pre-installed packages around;
Gigabyte's i7 version or Velocity's simpler model.
http://www.velocitymicro.com/wizard.php?iid=239
Not so cheap with its $600 tag, but nearly ¼th of mac mini {in size}.
Looks promising…
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On Sunday, March 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Richmond wrote:
This makes me think of cheap inkjet printers: I bought an all-in-one,
and my EFL school now spends twice
the price of the thing on ink cartridges each month.
:)))
That's the ruthless trick of all printer manufacturers...
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On 03/03/2013, at 11:22 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
Do we also refer to it as LCIi?
I only said I imagine not all the rest y'all imagine Make up your own name
for your own fork ;-)
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On 03/03/2013 11:11 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 11:22 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
Do we also refer to it as LCIi?
Hey, I've got a Macintosh LC475 in my attic in Scotland; maybe the ghost
of Steve will 'do' RunRev through
the courts.
I only said I
On 03/03/2013, at 8:35 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/03/2013 11:11 AM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 03/03/2013, at 11:22 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
Do we also refer to it as LCIi?
Hey, I've got a Macintosh LC475 in my attic in Scotland; maybe
Probably not anymore - all those externals will get rolled into the 'stew'.
Other people could implement them sure... or I could decide to license them to
RunRev via a contributor agreement. However, just because LiveCode is open
source doesn't stop someone from creating addons.
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It sounds like you are using just one desktop on your monitor and that makes
it very hard to manage all the overlapping windows. What's needed is an
add-on that gives you multiple virtual desktops - think this is Spaces on
Mac, and there is a windows add-on that does it.
Then you open one copy
Le 3 mars 2013 à 08:14, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu a écrit :
But as I said, I'm trying to avoid to inject any code/script into the html
files.
It's too risky with online webpages.
One has to save the page and resources first,
then alter the html file,
then set the url of browser to this saved
About 13 years ago I bought a small form factor PC that's the same
size/shape as the Mac Mini. I still have it stored away somewhere. It was
far easier to take to work than a laptop, as with no keyboard or screen, it
weighed a fraction of what a laptop weighed back then.
Bernard
On Sun, Mar
get the customKeys[myCustomPropertySetName] of myObject
Jacqueline Gay asked:
If I store an array as a custom property, is there a way to get its
keys
without putting the whole thing into a variable first?
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I think Tim Miller is right to think that opening two copies of
LiveCode will not help him edit the same stack in two windows, as
each will not know about the changes in the other until saved to disk
and reopened, and two very different versions are likely to result--
unless all changes are
On Mar 3, 2013, at 4:11 AM, Ender Nafi Elekçioğlu wrote:
On Sunday, March 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Richmond wrote:
This makes me think of cheap inkjet printers: I bought an all-in-one,
and my EFL school now spends twice
the price of the thing on ink cartridges each month.
:)))
That's
On Mar 2, 2013, at 7:19 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 3/2/13 5:59 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
one can create a copy of Livecode and run each version (name it Livecode B
or something) in a different space, yet cut and paste between. No name
space conflicts this way!
I do that all the time,
LCIi is just the abbreviated form of LiveCode I imagine. It's not
LCartyi. ;-)
~Roger
On 03/03/2013, at 11:22 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
Do we also refer to it as LCIi?
I only said I imagine not all the rest y'all imagine Make up your own
name for your own fork
Oops, meant LCatryi.
~Roger
On Mar 3, 2013 11:16 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote:
LCIi is just the abbreviated form of LiveCode I imagine. It's not
LCartyi. ;-)
~Roger
On 03/03/2013, at 11:22 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.com
wrote:
Do we also refer to it
Maybe OpenCode?
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On 03/03/2013 06:45 PM, Jim Kanter wrote:
Maybe OpenCode?
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A quick Google search will show you that that has been taken a good
half-a-dozen times already.
Just as long as it is not 'DeadCode' I'm not that fussy.
Richmond.
AliveAndWellCode perhaps?
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I really wish that Apple would at least allow an open source fork of OS X
so people can choose their own hardware. It's obviously compatible (with a
little effort). I enjoy checking out the cool custom built 'Macs' on this
site:
On 03/03/2013 07:15 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I really wish that Apple would at least allow an open source fork of OS X
so people can choose their own hardware.
There doesn't have to be an Open Source fork; if installing Mac OS X is
comparatively easy to install on a machine such as the NUC
I only suggest that they allow an unsupported fork because 'support' for
all that crazy PC hardware is the typical answer for why Apple doesn't do
this.
On Mar 3, 2013 12:35 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/03/2013 07:15 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I really wish that Apple
On 03/03/2013 07:44 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I only suggest that they allow an unsupported fork because 'support' for
all that crazy PC hardware is the typical answer for why Apple doesn't do
this.
I don't believe Apple.
I think the reason they will not allow people to install Mac OS X on
On 3/3/13 12:37 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Hi Jacque,
I just tried:
get the keys of (the uArray of button xyz)
... and got the keys of uArray.
Cool. Thanks. I'd been through all the permutations that Craig posted,
and I also had tried parentheses, but those were included in a nested
What is the performance like in a VM on old hardware? Wouldn't it be faster
if installed directly in a partition?
On Mar 3, 2013 1:22 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/03/2013 07:44 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I only suggest that they allow an unsupported fork because 'support'
I had a super-crazy idea once. It remains untested, but imagine a user who
uses 90% Windows software, and 10% Mac software. If that user has a REAL
made by Apple Mac, why not install Windows as the primary OS, and confine
OS X to the relm of virtualization? Why? Because Apple says no, as it would
On 03/03/2013 08:27 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
What is the performance like in a VM on old hardware? Wouldn't it be faster
if installed directly in a partition?
It runs really very well indeed for Livecode development.
I do nothing else whatsoever on the Faux Mac; all my graphic processing and
On 03/03/2013 08:39 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I had a super-crazy idea once. It remains untested, but imagine a user who
uses 90% Windows software, and 10% Mac software. If that user has a REAL
made by Apple Mac, why not install Windows as the primary OS, and confine
OS X to the relm of
On 3/3/13 12:28 AM, Timothy Miller wrote:
Do you mean to say I can have the same stack open in two copies of
LiveCode, resulting in two windows? Are two copies of the same
version of LiveCode okay?
This sounds wrong, but who am I to say? I assumed I would get a file
in use error if I tried to
How about HyperCard? g
On Mar 3, 2013 12:04 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
AliveAndWellCode perhaps?
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Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:24:35 AM, you wrote:
On 3/3/13 12:37 AM, Peter Haworth wrote:
Hi Jacque,
I just tried:
get the keys of (the uArray of button xyz)
... and got the keys of uArray.
Cool. Thanks. I'd been through all the permutations that Craig posted,
and I also had
Richmond-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 1:00:05 AM, you wrote:
This makes me think of cheap inkjet printers: I bought an all-in-one,
and my EFL school now spends twice
the price of the thing on ink cartridges each month.
I swore off inkjet printers quite a while ago (around the time they
started
Roger-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:39:19 AM, you wrote:
why not install Windows as the primary OS, and confine
OS X to the relm of virtualization?
Ha! OSX with all the stability of Windows! g
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Sunday, March 3, 2013, 4:50:03 AM, you wrote:
About 13 years ago I bought a small form factor PC that's the same
size/shape as the Mac Mini. I still have it stored away somewhere. It was
far easier to take to work than a laptop, as with no keyboard or screen, it
weighed a fraction
On 3/3/13 1:02 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Is your goal to save the time/resources of putting the array into a
variable and then extracting the keys, or is it to save a couple of
extra lines of code? Are you sure that the engine doesn't make a copy
of the array under the hood and then extract the
Jacque-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 11:20:38 AM, you wrote:
Assuming speed isn't an issue either way, any idea which would be more
memory-efficient?
No idea. We'd have to know how and when the engine handles garbage
collection. If you see significant speed differences in the different
methods,
I am trying to quit another application that I launched from LC when my
standalone quits. Kill seems acceptable since the other app has no clean up
etc. -- I'm even thinking with extreme prejudice might be appropriate for this
app. I have both a Mac and Windows versions of the other app:
Or FreeCode.
Pete
lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Roger Eller roger.e.el...@sealedair.comwrote:
How about HyperCard? g
On Mar 3, 2013 12:04 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
AliveAndWellCode perhaps?
On 3/3/13 1:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Jacque-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 11:20:38 AM, you wrote:
Assuming speed isn't an issue either way, any idea which would be more
memory-efficient?
No idea. We'd have to know how and when the engine handles garbage
collection. If you see significant speed
I believe the community edition of LiveCode is called LiveCode
Community Edition.
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On 03/04/2013 12:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe the community edition of LiveCode is called LiveCode
Community Edition.
Is that official?
And does what is a bit of a mouthful have an abbreviated form?
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On Mar 3, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Richmond wrote:
On 03/03/2013 07:44 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
I only suggest that they allow an unsupported fork because 'support' for
all that crazy PC hardware is the typical answer for why Apple doesn't do
this.
I don't believe Apple.
I think the reason
And it would be too similar, at a glance, to LiveCode Commercial Edition.
On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:09 PM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote:
I believe the community edition of LiveCode is called LiveCode Community
Edition.
Is that official?
And does what is a bit of a mouthful
Roger Eller wrote:
I really wish that Apple would at least allow an open source
fork of OS X so people can choose their own hardware.
A few years ago I discovered that there are more hardware options in the
world than just six models. ;)
I love the security, robustness, and
LiveCode OpenSource Edition
LiveCode Free Edition
LiveCode Kickstarted Edition
LiveCode Education Edition
LiveCode My Edition
LiveCode Sauce Bottle Edition
On Mar 3, 2013 5:26 PM, Colin Holgate co...@verizon.net wrote:
And it would be too similar, at a glance, to LiveCode Commercial Edition.
On 04/03/2013, at 9:09 AM, Richmond wrote:
On 03/04/2013 12:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
I believe the community edition of LiveCode is called LiveCode Community
Edition.
Is that official?
And does what is a bit of a mouthful have an abbreviated form?
When you refer to MySQL do you
Monte Golding wrote:
When you refer to MySQL do you say MySQL Community Edition?
Now that MySQL is owned by Larry Ellison, when people are referring to
the community edition they say MariaDB.
;)
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On Mar 3, 2013, at 10:57 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:
Nothing will happen to the file on disk until you save it. Remember that
stacks exist only in memory until they're saved. Copy 1 of LiveCode won't
know a thing about the changes you made in Copy 2. The dangerous
On Mar 3, 2013 5:28 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Roger Eller wrote:
I really wish that Apple would at least allow an open source
fork of OS X so people can choose their own hardware.
A few years ago I discovered that there are more hardware options in the
world than just six models. ;)
Wink
Mark, Jacque.
I am a big fan of forced evaluation.
So why doesn't:
do get the keys of the testArray of me
or
do get the keys of the testArray of me
work?
Craig
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Maybe:
LiveCode Free
LiveCode Commercial
LiveCode Enterprise
Paul Looney
On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
LiveCode OpenSource Edition
LiveCode Free Edition
LiveCode Kickstarted Edition
LiveCode Education Edition
LiveCode My Edition
LiveCode Sauce Bottle Edition
On Mar 3,
Simple. Professional. Like!
Sent from my Pipo M2
On Mar 3, 2013 8:10 PM, Paul Looney simpl...@aol.com wrote:
Maybe:
LiveCode Free
LiveCode Commercial
LiveCode Enterprise
Paul Looney
On Mar 3, 2013, at 2:40 PM, Roger Eller wrote:
LiveCode OpenSource Edition
LiveCode Free Edition
Roger,
Thank you (my company's name is Simple Solutions).
I like using Free instead of Community because free is one of the top
best selling words. It is also shorter.
I think LiveCode should always be the first word - and I agree that it should
be used in all versions.
I miss the old days
Craig-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 4:25:29 PM, you wrote:
do get the keys of the testArray of me
What's me?
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I suspect this is easy, but I'm not coming up with anything. Can anyone tell me
how to get weighted random numbers in LC? Say I want to position something on
the screen randomly but favor the center of the screen. Any ideas?
Thanks,
Roger
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There may be a better mathematical method, but I suppose I would start
with the loc of the screen and add some small random offsets to the loc.
Then at random times when the loc is calculated, I would add some major
offsets to the center loc. In this way, the center loc is always favored.
Of
Mark. Jacque
Mark. The test script I made was in a mouseUp handler in a button, and set a
custom property of that same button.
Jacque. It just occurred to me that placing the custom property identifier in
parentheses does not force an evaluation, it just helps the parser, well, parse.
Sort
Thanks, Scott. I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, so let me expand on
what I'm trying to do: I want a number (25 to 200) of objects randomly
positioned on the stack/window but favoring the center of the stack/window.
Would your described method do this for me? Sorry for being slow...
On 3/3/13 6:25 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
I am a big fan of forced evaluation.
So why doesn't:
do get the keys of the testArray of me
or
do get the keys of the testArray of me
work?
It works if you add the parentheses:
do get the keys of (the testArray of me)
But it's weird. The
From: Roger Guay
Thanks, Scott. I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, so
let me expand on what I'm trying to do: I want a number (25
to 200) of objects randomly positioned on the stack/window
but favoring the center of the stack/window. Would your
described method do this for me?
On 3/3/13 8:08 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Jacque. It just occurred to me that placing the custom property
identifier in parentheses does not force an evaluation, it just helps
the parser, well, parse.
I remember when I had trouble getting URL content and was told it had to
be in parentheses
Jacque-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 6:30:38 PM, you wrote:
On 3/3/13 8:08 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote:
Jacque. It just occurred to me that placing the custom property
identifier in parentheses does not force an evaluation, it just helps
the parser, well, parse.
I remember when I had trouble
Roger
A simple method might be:
1. Select a random number between 25 and 200
2. Select a random number between 25 and the random number selected in
step 1.
This should result with the median of the numbers closer to 25 than 200. You
could repeat step 3 again if you want to
On 04/03/2013, at 1:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Actually, that needs to be in parentheses because url is a function.
As in
put url(file:it) into tDataStream
If you're in the right folder you can:
put url file:index.html into tHTML
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I've run into other circumstances where using parens makes an expression
yield the correct results. I can't think of them off the top of my head
but the resukt has been that I probably use an overabundance of parens in
my code so I don't have to worry about things working correctly. That's
how I
Monte-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 7:08:10 PM, you wrote:
On 04/03/2013, at 1:44 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Actually, that needs to be in parentheses because url is a function.
As in
put url(file:it) into tDataStream
If you're in the right folder you can:
put url file:index.html into tHTML
It seems there are two types of arrays storable in LC props, what I like
to call Natural and Unnatural:
Natural arrays are one-dimensional, and fit into the traditional view
of custom props as having one or more property sets, each of which is
comprised of properties, each of which has a key
On 04/03/2013, at 2:21 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
If you're in the right folder you can:
put url file:index.html into tHTML
Yes, but that's one of those cases where LC helps you along even
though you're doing wrong.
I don't think so... It's documented as a keyword not a function.
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Monte Goulding wrote:
It's documented as a keyword not a function.
Keyword is the Miscellaneous of programming languages, the box
things wind up in when they don't fit into a language's equivalent of
The Seven Parts of Speech. ;)
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Monte-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 7:37:10 PM, you wrote:
On 04/03/2013, at 2:21 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
If you're in the right folder you can:
put url file:index.html into tHTML
Yes, but that's one of those cases where LC helps you along even
though you're doing wrong.
I don't think so...
Richard,
I think your explanation of how arrays stored in cprops are translated back
and forth between internal and external storage explains the the
performance differences in Mark's tests.
I am curious though about your comment on storing multi-dimensional arrays
in cProps. Are you saying it's
On 04/03/2013, at 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It's documented as a keyword not a function.
Keyword is the Miscellaneous of programming languages, the box things
wind up in when they don't fit into a language's equivalent of The Seven
Parts of Speech. ;)
Isn't it an adjective
Hi.
Just fiddling around, I tried this in a button, with a field named
outputField. The 100 is arbitrary. This might weight too heavily towards
the middle.
on mouseup
put 100 into maxval
repeat maxVal
put weightTheMiddle(random(maxval),maxval/2) return after accum
Monte-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 8:47:42 PM, you wrote:
On 04/03/2013, at 2:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It's documented as a keyword not a function.
Keyword is the Miscellaneous of programming languages, the
box things wind up in when they don't fit into a language's
equivalent of The
On 04/03/2013, at 2:55 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
I don't think so... It's documented as a keyword not a function.
OK. That stopped me in my tracks. In that case, the syntax is weirder
than I previously thought. It *should* IMO be documented as a
function, but I see all the way back to the 2.0
Pete-
Sunday, March 3, 2013, 7:56:53 PM, you wrote:
Richard,
I think your explanation of how arrays stored in cprops are translated back
and forth between internal and external storage explains the the
performance differences in Mark's tests.
Jacque's tests actually, not mine. I just
On 04/03/2013, at 4:01 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
Hmmm... no.
If we're not going to treat url as a function, then in the statement
put url file:xyz
url is a container, as in
put the contents of the url whose reference is file:xyz
and in that case, file:xyz is the qualifier of url.
On 3/3/13 9:37 PM, Monte Goulding wrote:
On 04/03/2013, at 2:21 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:
If you're in the right folder you can:
put url file:index.html into tHTML
Yes, but that's one of those cases where LC helps you along even
though you're doing wrong.
I don't think so... It's documented
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