Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread Thierry Douez
2013/5/8 > > But there are times when "do" is unavoidable, and also times when it is > invaluable. For example, in a locked field with some lines of text in it: > > on mouseup >put random(99) & return into the clickLine --Works fine. Direct, > immediate use of the function > end mouseup > >

Re: suspend/resume messages on Android?

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wilcox
Terry Judd wrote:   >> I'm guessing the OS probably doesn't notify the app that it's suspended. > Maybe not. I think you can potentially get a list of active processes and > determine which one is active. If we could poll that list using an external - > if we ever get externals for Android -

Re: automated iOS rejection: Non-public API usage

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wilcox
I see RunRev have jumped on the bug report quickly, which is great, but Apple deprecated the UDID a very long time ago and recently gave fair advanced warning that they'd be rejecting any apps still using it from May 1st. Since I was able to find: engine/src/mbliphoneextra.mm:t_identifier = [[UI

Re: Beginners questions subject headers

2013-05-08 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On May 7, 2013, at 10:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Comcast thinks my name is Landmangay. It's amusing to hear their > telemarketers try to pronounce it. The reason it's that way in the database > is because they can't put a space into the last_name field and they only get > two fields. Anoth

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread Peter M. Brigham
All this makes some sort of sense if you pay attention to the "parts of speech" aspect in the LC dictionary entries. "The foundfield" is a function, and so it's not surprising that the parser objects to something like "put random(99) into the foundfield." If you look at the entry for "the select

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

2013-05-08 Thread André Bisseret
Bonjour, Up to now I was working with livecode 5.0.2. This morning I tried livecode 6 (commercial version Built 1511). First of all, I had to build a new standalone for the app. I choosed to try. Well, why not! In development environment, seemed to work normally. With the new standalone as wel

OT: learning objects

2013-05-08 Thread David Bovill
I'm structuring an online course, or rather apprenticeship, for a social enterprise targeting young people learning to code mobile apps, and looking for some advice, or contacts with other people interested in this area. The basic idea is now that LiveCode is open source to create an advanced onli

Re: US at conference?

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Talluto
Eric and I will be attending. We will be there from the 12th through the 20th. Mark canelasoftware.com On May 7, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I'll be at the conference next week, but then I can justify the trip because > I can visit my family in England before and after Scotland.

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread dunbarx
Thierry. I am not sure what you mean. My two scripts were intended to be examples of how LC evaluates different types of elements within its own structure. You can: put foo into the clickLine --and insert foo into a line in a field You cannot: get the clickLine put whatever into it --

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > ...we can simply write with confidence: > > set the text of tObject to resDate > Richard, you beat me to it -- and here I thought I might be the only one who understands the distinction. This works (as far as I know) with all properties.

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread dunbarx
Good stuff Geoff. So, as compactly as I can make it: on mouseUp get the clickline set the text of it to random(99) --works put random(99) into it --does not work end mouseUp shows the distinction between the ability of the engine to set a property contained in a variable, but not u

Array Looping to Insert into Database

2013-05-08 Thread Graham Pearson
Array Experts In my application that I am converting from Adobe Air, I have come to a section where Google has let me down. I have converted my XML File to an Array and can see it within the Debugger and parts of the array is listed below. gAvailableMarketDataArray AvailableMarkets Ma

iOS: second stack in memory disrupts message flow

2013-05-08 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I spent a lot of time trying to debug why my stack wasn't getting a 'shutdown' message when it was backgrounded. Eventually I found that the issue related to the fact that my main stack has opened a preferences stack, invisibly, in the background. The preferences stack is just a carrier for s

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:31 AM, wrote: > Good stuff Geoff. > Good stuff Richard. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Geoff Canyon wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 8:31 AM, dunbarx wrote: Good stuff Geoff. Good stuff Richard. Good stuff LiveCode. And MetaCard. For all the seductive pleasures of HyperTalk, there were more than a few oddities in the language which caused us to scratch our heads over seemin

Re: Comment about "do" (was clickLine/clickcharchunk)

2013-05-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
dunbarx wrote: > You can: > put foo into the clickLine --and insert foo into a line in a field > > You cannot: > > get the clickLine > put whatever into it -- and expect that foo will be inserted into > a line in a field > > The foo will go into the variable it, not into the evaluated contents >

Re: Beginners questions subject headers

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 6:02:30 PM, you wrote: > Gosh, until seeing her message, I thought this was a Heinlein reference . . . TANSTAAHR There Ain't No Such Thing As A Heinlein Reference... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-liv

Re: Dismissing an answer dialog by script

2013-05-08 Thread Paul Hibbert
Terry, you could roll-your-own answer dialog, maybe a substack or just a group, then you can easily dismiss it with script. Paul On 2013-05-07, at 11:24 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > > On 08/05/2013, at 03:15 PM, Terry Judd wrote: > >> Is it possible to display a standard answer dialog and then dis

Re: Array Looping to Insert into Database

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Haworth
Can't help with the XML stuff but it doesn't seem to difficult to use the array. put the keys of gAvailableMarketDataArray[AvailableMarkets] into tKeys sort tKeys -- if you care repeat for each line L in tKeys end repeat If you're inserting/updating stuff into an sqlite database, don;t forget

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Haworth
My friend and ex bandmate David Brewer is a bagpiper and told me this story. As a bagpiper, I play many gigs. Recently I was asked by a funeral director to play at a graveside service for a homeless man. He had no family or friends, so the service was to be at a pauper's cemetery out in the wilds

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Haworth
Or: What's the difference between a banjo and a South American Macaw? One is loud, obnoxious, and noisy. The other is a bird. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Pete- > > Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 9:15:49 PM, you wrote: > > > OK, is it

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Peter Haworth
And specially for you, Mark: What do you throw to a drowning bass player? His amp. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Pete- > > Tuesday, May 7, 2013, 9:15:49 PM, you wrote: > > > OK, is it open season on musician jokes? 'Cause I got

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Marty Knapp
Haha! Thanks for the levity Pete - good ones! Marty Knapp Knappster Solutions LLC --- And specially for you, Mark: What do you throw to a drowning bass player? His amp. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

mouse is down on Android

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Friedman
Greetings! I have noticed that "the mouse is down" always returns false on Android. So, I am looking for a workaround. Here's my scenario: Lets say the user wins a 100 points. As each point is given, a bell goes off and the win count is increased for the user to see. On iOS, I simply check

Re: mouse is down on Android

2013-05-08 Thread Chris Sheffield
Dan, This is just a suggestion, not sure if it will help or not. Try adding with messages to your wait command. You could also try touchEnd instead of touchStart. Again, not sure if that would make a difference or not. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com On

[OT] Free Photoshop actions for preparing Retina-display graphics

2013-05-08 Thread Matthias Rebbe
Hi, there is a free collection of Photoshop actions available for preparing Retina-display website desgins. Maybe this is useful for someone in the list. http://www.retinize.it/ Regards, Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runr

Re: mouse is down on Android

2013-05-08 Thread Dan Friedman
Chris, Perfect! Adding the "with messages" option to the wait command was the ticket. Thanks! -Dan > Dan, > > This is just a suggestion, not sure if it will help or not. Try adding with > messages to your wait command. You could also try touchEnd instead of > touchStart. Again, not sure i

Re: US at conference?

2013-05-08 Thread Devin Asay
On May 7, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Colin Holgate wrote: > I'll be at the conference next week, but then I can justify the trip because > I can visit my family in England before and after Scotland. I was curious > though, how many of the people that made it to San Jose and Atlantic City > will also be

Re: Beginners questions subject headers

2013-05-08 Thread Devin Asay
On May 7, 2013, at 10:50 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >> On 08/05/2013, at 12:40 AM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: >> >>> Very good question. Where IS this time travel external? I have some great >>> ideas for it. >> > On 5/7/13 11:22 PM, Gerry Orkin wrote: >> It needs to be re-compiled for LC 4.5.1.

Re: suspend/resume messages on Android?

2013-05-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/8/13 4:12 AM, Mark Wilcox wrote: I know the RunRev team are awesome but I'm a little perplexed anyone would assume that the Android app lifecycle model is completely broken rather than there's simply a bug/missing feature in LiveCode. Guilty as charged. I know how hard the team works to m

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

2013-05-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/8/13 7:05 AM, André Bisseret wrote: With the new standalone as well but only until I tried to quit it. Then I got a crash (?) : I mean the screen of my mac (10.6.8) became completely empty and I had to force to turn off my mac. After several trials issuing the same problems, I am back to 5

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter Haworth writes: > What do you throw to a drowning bass player? > His amp. Ha! Definition of a quarter-tone: Two fretless bass players playing in unison. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lis

Re: iOS: second stack in memory disrupts message flow

2013-05-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/8/13 8:52 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: For now, I've rewritten things so that the prefs stack is opened, everything is moved to globals, then the stack is immediately closed and removed from memory; and on shutdown, the prefs stack is opened again, globals are moved to properties, the stack is

[OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Kerner
If any of you have been keeping track of the competition, RealBasic is about to change names, licensing schemes, and will have their version of iOS app building available in December. There is no word on Android. They are also changing their name. So by my math, they are about 3 years behind as

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Geoff Canyon
what are they changing their name to? On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > If any of you have been keeping track of the competition, RealBasic is > about to change names, licensing schemes, and will have their version of > iOS app building available in December. > > There is no w

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mike Kerner wrote: If any of you have been keeping track of the competition, RealBasic is about to change names, licensing schemes, and will have their version of iOS app building available in December. There is no word on Android. They are also changing their name. Links or it didn't happen.

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Richmond
On 05/08/2013 09:49 PM, Geoff Canyon wrote: what are they changing their name to? Deadcode. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http:

Re: [OFF] [RM] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Richmond
On 05/08/2013 09:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Cocoa is a biggie of course, but what exactly is a "native control"? Why? Richmond. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manag

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Shawn Blc
Link: http://www.realsoftware.com/support/faq_xojo.php On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > > Links or it didn't happen. ;) > > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubsc

Re: US at conference?

2013-05-08 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I will not be attending this year due to 'financial' reasons and neither will Victoria (for the same reasons). I will be on the simulcast however so drop by a camera and say hello to me……. Tom -- Tom McGrath III http://lazyriver.on-rev.com mcgra...@mac.com ___

RE: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> If any of you have been keeping track of the competition, > RealBasic is about to change names, licensing schemes, and > will have their version of iOS app building available in December. > > There is no word on Android. > > They are also changing their name. > > > So by my math, they are a

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Mike- Thanks. Competition is good. Keeps everyone pushing the envelope. Maybe cutting the price in half is a response to the open-source initiative of some other product? I'd be more interested in RB if it weren't for B, so I think the name change is a good idea. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoft

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wieder
I wrote: > Maybe cutting the price in half Dang. I misread the chart. Never mind. -- Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your su

Re: Anyone else experiencing crashes with Commercial Build 1513?

2013-05-08 Thread Shawn Blc
Bug Report: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10896 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:26 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 5/8/13 7:05 AM, André Bisseret wrote: > > With the new standalone as well but only until I tried to quit it. >> Then I got a crash (?) : I mean the screen of my mac (10.6.8)

Re: Dismissing an answer dialog by script

2013-05-08 Thread Terry Judd
On 09/05/2013, at 01:20 AM, Paul Hibbert wrote: > Terry, you could roll-your-own answer dialog, maybe a substack or just a > group, then you can easily dismiss it with script. > > Paul Thanks Paul - yes that's what I ended up doing (group method). Terry... > > On 2013-05-07, at 11:24 PM, Te

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Shawn Blc
I'm glad that I chose LC over RB. :)I'm a LiveCoder for the long haul. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > I wrote: > > > Maybe cutting the price in half > > Dang. I misread the chart. Never mind. > > -- > Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > > >

Re: Data Grid Question

2013-05-08 Thread Joe Hamburger
Hi again Mike, Yes, I am using the Table format and nothing happens when I click on the + at the bottom of the column part of the property inspector. Here's something else that's interesting. When the script reaches either set dgText of grp "CS Grid" to data1 or set the dgText of grp "CS Grid" t

Re: Data Grid Question

2013-05-08 Thread Mike Bonner
It sounds almost as if the datagrid substack has been removed. (the substack is added when you place a datagrid into your stack) the datagrid isn't functional without that substack. Is it there in the app browser? I also wonder if messages are locked or.. well not sure. If you start with a fres

Re: US at conference?

2013-05-08 Thread Jim Lambert
Colin and those attending, See you there! Jim Lambert ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-li

Re: are my datagrids misbehaving, or is it me.

2013-05-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
Bump. Can anyone figure out this example; I've included the very small stack as an attachment (ou'll need to drag a datagrid on before pushing the button; including it changes file sized from 2-3k to 20+k On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > I've distilled my misbehaving datagrid

Re: Array Looping to Insert into Database

2013-05-08 Thread Graham Pearson
Pete, Thanks on the reply. I have the XML stuff all working as this is the same data which my Adobe Air application uses on a daily basis. I am just wanting to convert it to Livecode so that I can use the same code base for desktop, tablet and mobile devices. Made some great progress today. On 5

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Chay Wesley
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > So just how "native" are RB's controls? http://www.realsoftwareblog.com/2013/04/why-native-controls-are-important.html -- Chay Wesley Embedded Data Systems ___ use-livecode mailing list use-live

[OT] Powered USB hub?

2013-05-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
Okay you smart people: If I put an unpowered USB hub on a USB wall wart, will I get a powered USB hub? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode

Re: US at conference?

2013-05-08 Thread Ian Wood
Don't forget your luggage... :-) See you there! Ian On 8 May 2013, at 03:37, Andre Garzia wrote: > I am going! I arrive on the 12th :-D ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: [OFF] The Competition

2013-05-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Chay Wesley wrote: On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: So just how "native" are RB's controls? http://www.realsoftwareblog.com/2013/04/why-native-controls-are-important.html Thanks for that, Chay. And welcome to the LiveCode list. I'd come across that blog entry earlier

RE: [OT] Powered USB hub?

2013-05-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
In a word yes. The unpowered hub is powered by the USB host port. The total current available to run any other unpowered device devices plugged into the hub will be the current the host USB port supplies minus the power the hub itself requires to operate. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Informa

DataGrid Selection Question

2013-05-08 Thread Magicgate Software - Skip Kimpel
I have a datagrid that when I double click on a line, it puts that line of data into a text field. I need to expand this and allow the user to select multiple line, right click and do the same thing... Here is what I am using for the doubleclick code: on mouseDoubleUp get the dgHilitedIndex of

Re: are my datagrids misbehaving, or is it me.

2013-05-08 Thread Peter M. Brigham
Attachments don't come through on this list. You'll have to post the stack on a website and send us a URL. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On May 8, 2013, at 4:32 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > Bump. > > Can anyone figure out this example; I've included th

Livecode Usersguide

2013-05-08 Thread MCLAWHORN, TONY
So is the Livecode userguide revision 18 with a date of September 16, 2010 the latest there is? Dang... Has there not been any substantial changes in 3 years. -- |> | Tony McLawhorn | Computer Support Manager | Department of History | University of South Carolina | tony...@sc.edu ___

feeling the blues...

2013-05-08 Thread Colin Holgate
I'm doing screenshots towards a revision of my book. I'm using the Community version whenever possible, and I just took a screenshot of the preferences screen, where you set your iOS SDK location. The LC icon at that point is blue and not green. ___ us

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- LOL. That's the best story I've heard in a while. Here's one more before I leave this thread (probably for musicians only): C, E-flat, and G go into a bar. The bartender says, "Sorry, but we don't serve minors." So E-flat leaves, and C and G have an open fifth between them. After a few dri

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Shawn Blc
+1. Awesome story, lol. On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > My friend and ex bandmate David Brewer is a bagpiper and told me this > story. > > As a bagpiper, I play many gigs. Recently I was asked by a funeral > director to play at a graveside service for a homeless man. He

Re: [OT] Powered USB hub?

2013-05-08 Thread Robert Sneidar
If your wall has warts, you have bigger problems than your USB hub! Bob Sneidar IT Manager Calvary Chapel CM Sent from iPhone On May 8, 2013, at 14:19, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > Okay you smart people: If I put an unpowered USB hub on a USB wall wart, will > I get a powered USB hub? > > -- >

Re: [OT] Powered USB hub?

2013-05-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/8/13 5:05 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: In a word yes. The unpowered hub is powered by the USB host port. The total current available to run any other unpowered device devices plugged into the hub will be the current the host USB port supplies minus the power the hub itself requires to operate.

RE: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Ralph DiMola
Pete, I had my brother in stitches with that "story". Mark, Very funny and clever!! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder Sent: Wedne

Re: Livecode Usersguide

2013-05-08 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 5/8/13 7:35 PM, MCLAWHORN, TONY wrote: So is the Livecode userguide revision 18 with a date of September 16, 2010 the latest there is? Dang... Has there not been any substantial changes in 3 years. That's part of what version 6 is all about -- a whole revamp of the UI. The new project brow

Re: are my datagrids misbehaving, or is it me.

2013-05-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > Attachments don't come through on this list. You'll have to post the stack > on a website and send us a URL. > Isn't there a 15k limit? It's a 12k file (with the datagrid removed). It came back through for me as a attachment . . . anyw

Is there a textChanged property?

2013-05-08 Thread Dr. Hawkins
I know about the textChanged message, but . . . I have forms with many fields. I have a closeField handler that sets a flag when something changes, but this only triggers when leaving the field. My assistant just discovered a bug that I hadn't-- I have fields that have hotkeys in them, one of w

Re: [OT - I remembered this time]: here we go

2013-05-08 Thread Mark Wieder
Ralph- Wednesday, May 8, 2013, 7:17:15 PM, you wrote: > Mark, > Very funny and clever!! I can't claim credit for anything but passing it on. I used to run the Grateful Dead jokes page on the WELL back in the day... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net _