Re: LiveCode 8 [was: Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?]

2015-06-02 Thread Terence Heaford
On 2 Jun 2015, at 09:23, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: At the moment, I expect that we will probably be recommending using Atom for editing LCB source code. I am not familiar with using Atom but I presume it will mean: 1. Code in Atom 2. Transfer to LC 3. Test in LC 4.

Re: LiveCode 8 [was: Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?]

2015-06-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-06-02 11:25, Terence Heaford wrote: On 2 Jun 2015, at 09:23, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: At the moment, I expect that we will probably be recommending using Atom for editing LCB source code. I am not familiar with using Atom but I presume it will mean: 1. Code in

revXMLCreateTree or revCreateXMLTree ?

2015-06-02 Thread jbv
Hi list In a stack with LC Community 6.5.2, both function names work (although only revXMLCreateTree is mentioned in the doc) while only revCreateXMLTree works on LC server... Any explanation for this ? Thanks jbv ___ use-livecode mailing list

LiveCode 8 [was: Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?]

2015-06-02 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-06-01 19:17, Terence Heaford wrote: On 1 Jun 2015, at 14:16, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: Unless some major showstopper problems are encountered, there will be commercial builds of the next release of LiveCode 8. That'll be in the next couple of weeks. Will

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Ben Rubinstein
I'd echo this - I've always found the splash app approach to work well. I include in my splash app code which if it can't find or doesn't like the mainstack (stored in application support or analogous folder), directly loads an updater stack over http from my server; this update stack then

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
if I recall correctly, all you have to do is add substack to your splashstack named Data Grid Templates Dud Then, even if you do manual inclusions of everything else, the way toe standalone builder works (or used to) it will still realize you need the datagrid support stuff, and will include it.

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread William Prothero
Mike: I’ve searched around for the “DataGrid Templates” stack and can’t find it. For manual inclusion, I would need to add it to the “Stacks” panel in the standalones setting. Bill On Jun 2, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, it won't find the inclusions, you need

Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?

2015-06-02 Thread Jan Schenkel
Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to return my attention to my LiveCode projects. If you have an urgent question, then please resend it to my quartam.com email address. For

RE: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?

2015-06-02 Thread Ralph DiMola
Hey Jan! Glad your feeling better. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Jan Schenkel Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:22 PM To: How to use

Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?

2015-06-02 Thread Yves COPPE
Hi Jan, Happy to hear about you and you are in good condition. Le 2 juin 2015 à 21:21, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com a écrit : Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
One more thing I noticed.. This tiny splashstack i've created (tiny being relative at around 9 megs) takes a full 12 seconds to load on my machine. All I can say is WOW what a slug. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Ben Rubinstein benr...@cogapp.com wrote: I'd echo this - I've always found the

7.0.5 not so stable

2015-06-02 Thread Ray
Neil - I upgraded today to 7.0.5 as you suggested. Unfortunately this did not solve the problem of an Android app displaying Unfortunately [my app] has stopped working but you should know it also gave me other problems. I was unable to scroll in a data grid which works fine in 7.0.2.

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/2/2015 4:47 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Sneidar wrote: The problem is, then the mainStack cannot be modified, and it needs to be. I set properties in the mainStack. I have settings cards in the mainStack. And besides, I want to eventually have a cool splash screen with a custom shape. It’s called Forms Generator, and I

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
The problem is, then the mainStack cannot be modified, and it needs to be. I set properties in the mainStack. I have settings cards in the mainStack. And besides, I want to eventually have a cool splash screen with a custom shape. It’s called Forms Generator, and I envisioned a generator or

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread J. Landman Gay
If you set all the stacks as substacks of the splash, they can't be modified either. The only way they can be modified is if they're separate stacks (or a mainstack with substacks) on disk. Basically everything in the standalone file is permanent. On June 2, 2015 6:47:38 PM CDT, Bob Sneidar

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Bob, yeah that will work and let you set your individual stacks to work as subs of the splash, but it pretty much boils down to what you want to accomplish. A splash, and separate stacks that you can save individually? If this is the goal, then you can choose the option to save substacks to

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi Mike. I was thinking about how to proceed, and I realize that what I need to do is have both stacks open, then set the mainstack of each of what are now substacks of my app stack, to the splash stack, then set the mainstack of my primary app stack to the splash stack. Bob S On Jun 2,

Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?

2015-06-02 Thread Marian Petrides, MD
Glad to hear you are OK, Jan! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Jan Schenkel janschen...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi All, My apologies for the scandalously late reply. Yes, I am still alive. I've been lost in personal issues and am only now finding back the energy to return my

Re: Anybody Hear From Jan Schenkel?

2015-06-02 Thread David Beck
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Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
http://lessons.runrev.com/m/4071/l/17375-how-do-i-save-custom-properties-in-a-standalone-application On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 6:46 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: If you set all the stacks as substacks of the splash, they can't be modified either. The only way they can be

Re: AW: AW: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Jacque - just so you know the two guys at the weekend on win7 and win8 machines were both working with brand new stack files and the longest script ended up at 110 lines - and they had problems right from the off... J. Landman Gay wrote On 6/1/2015 4:38 PM, Dave Kilroy wrote: I have no

Re: Update on bug I reported on 8th April 2014 -15173

2015-06-02 Thread Peter W A Wood
On 1 Jun 2015, at 21:46, Peter W A Wood peterwaw...@gmail.com wrote: Somebody at LiveCode has at last taken a look at the bug report that I submitted on 8th April 2014 thanks to Richard Gaskin’s intervention. They have marked it as a duplicate of a bug reported by David Williams on 17th

Re: Clock

2015-06-02 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 01/06/2015 21:20, BNig wrote: Incidentally Rolf Kocherhans from Switzerland has asked me if a railwayclock type of clock would be feasible. I gave it a try and here it is. Almost but not quite like the famous Swiss Railwayclock

Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working

2015-06-02 Thread Ray
Does anybody know what to do about this? Windows 8.1 Livecode 7.0.2 Minimum Android Version: 3.1 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working

2015-06-02 Thread Neil Roger
Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind Regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead n...@livecode.com mailto:n...@livecode.com LiveCode +44 (0) 845 219

Re: use-livecode Digest, Vol 141, Issue 2

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
What OS?? If it is Mac, open your System Preferences/Security Privacy, select the General tab, and set Allow apps downloaded from: to Anywhere. Bob S On Jun 1, 2015, at 17:24 , Jim Hurley jhurley0...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I’m trying to sent a LC stand alone app to a friend. But I when I

Re: AW: AW: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?

2015-06-02 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 4:02 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Script length may have something to do with the editor delays. It takes more time to process text in v7. I'm currently converting a stack where no scripts are longer than a few hundred lines (most are under 500)

Re: How do you handle the poor performance of LC 7?

2015-06-02 Thread Dave Kilroy
Hi Peter OK I tried to migrate to LC8 but have given up until the next version comes out. At the moment I'm doing apps for iOS and Android need to be able to build for them. A while ago I allowed Xcode to upgrade to 6.3.2 which LC7 was OK with, LC8 not so much. As regards Android I can build

Re: Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working

2015-06-02 Thread Ray
Thanks Neil - will do. On 6/2/2015 2:09 PM, Neil Roger wrote: Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind Regards, Neil LiveCode Technical Support Lead

Re: Android - Unfortunately [my app] Has Stopped Working

2015-06-02 Thread Ray
Neil - just did this and I'm still getting the same problem. I'll file a bug report now. On 6/2/2015 2:09 PM, Neil Roger wrote: Hi Ray, Upgrade to 7.0.5 to see if that resolves the issue. If not, fire off a report to http://quality.runrev.com and we will happily investigate further. Kind

Re: Clock

2015-06-02 Thread Roger Eller
Wow! I'm 1 of 17. I never dreamed I would be a part of such an elite group of clock-face fans. haha ~Roger On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:17 AM, BNig bernd.niggem...@uni-wh.de wrote: Hi Ben, thank you, but don't worry from the link you have posted: 9to5Mac points out this equates roughly

Re: Clock

2015-06-02 Thread BNig
Hi Ben, thank you, but don't worry from the link you have posted: 9to5Mac points out this equates roughly to a 10 cent take on each of the 210 million iOS 6 devices I have sent Swiss Railroad $ 1.70 to cover all the expected 17 users of the clock. And by that number I have a wide margin of

Re: revXMLCreateTree or revCreateXMLTree ?

2015-06-02 Thread Devin Asay
On Jun 2, 2015, at 1:24 AM, j...@souslelogo.com j...@souslelogo.com wrote: Hi list In a stack with LC Community 6.5.2, both function names work (although only revXMLCreateTree is mentioned in the doc) while only revCreateXMLTree works on LC server... Any explanation for this ? A few years

need help with filter and regex

2015-06-02 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, in the course of the massiv LC 7 problem with sort international (which is approved by Runrev) I am looking for a workaround for my repeat selection and sorting with filter, as Richard H. advised. I don't have much experience with filter, beside of some easy filters nor regex. Today

Re: Mailing stand alone apps.

2015-06-02 Thread Ben Rubinstein
On 02/06/2015 01:27, Jim Hurley wrote: Oops, on the Subject of the previous message. I’m trying to email a LC stand alone app to a friend. But I when I send it to myself as a test, I get a message: Can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer.” Is there a work-around?

Re: Clock

2015-06-02 Thread BNig
Roger, just wait for the Lord Eller watch... Kind regards Bernd Roger Eller wrote Wow! I'm 1 of 17. I never dreamed I would be a part of such an elite group of clock-face fans. haha ~Roger On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 9:17 AM, BNig lt; bernd.niggemann@ gt; wrote: Hi Ben, thank

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Devin Asay
On Jun 2, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote: Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added.

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
I can see now why people strongly advise NOT to use the substacks feature. It is none too compatible with standalone building. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:19 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just

Re: need help with filter and regex

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
You can do interesting things with just filter.. For example, to end up with items that contain a string in string one, and number 2 IS a specific number you could do something like this filter tMyVar with *;*stringtofind*;*;*;345;* This will match any value of key and any value for string 1

Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
Hi all. So I am creating a standalone for the first time, and I am trying to use a splash stack. Taking the advice of others I have added a data grid to the splash stack so that the data grid library get added. Now when I attempt to set the mainstack of the actual stack that contains all the

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your splashstack stack that looks for and loads it. (go stack path/to/stack) Somewhere around here I have a launcher stack

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
Thanks Mike I’ll give that a try. Bob S On Jun 2, 2015, at 09:19 , Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a mainstack too. To make this work, its simple enough to just add the stack that has all your logic and substacks to the files pane, and add code to your

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Also, you can have your stack with its logic in a web server and pop up the stack from there too, then have the splashstack save it wherever, as well as check for updated stacks on the server. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Mike Bonner bonnm...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, a substack can't be a

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
Thanks Devin. With this approach I am finding that letting Livecode automatically find the libraries it needs is not successful. First, none of my data grids work, even though I have added a data grid to the splash stack. Second, none of the image files I have referenced in the primary stack

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Scott Rossi
Bob: Follow Devin's advice. Building a launcher (splash) app shouldn't be that complicated. The standalone just needs to be a simple minimal stack that launches your real main stack containing all your logic, sub stacks, etc. Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media UX/UI Design

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread EED-wp Email
I find it very convenient to use substacks for my main stack module to keep code required by that module together. The mainstack gets a list of the substacks and does a start using for each of them. When i get thousands of lines of code , it is convenient to divide scripts by function, into

Re: Standalone Build Problem

2015-06-02 Thread Mike Bonner
Yep, it won't find the inclusions, you need to pick and choose yourself because the splashstack is mostly empty of code. The can't figure out what you need from code that isn't there. As for the datagrid, I wonder.. If I recall, you don't actually have to include a datagrid for it to work. Check