Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Warren Samples
On 08/26/2015 11:54 AM, Richmond wrote: I just knocked together a standard stack with one button containing the script: on mouseUp put HELLO end mouseUp before I tried building a standalone, that script did NOT work . . . I built a 64-bit Linux standalone, and it *opened* (the script did

Re: screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread David Simpson
Phil, Indeed, LiveCode does not currently support Accessibility. I have used a variety of automation software like AppleScript and WinAutomation - and only the outline of the window and the window controls are visible. In fact, I lost a sale last week because my software could not be used with

screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread Phil Davis
Has anyone been able to make desktop stacks work with screen readers? I'm experimenting with the Mac's VoiceOver utility (included with OS X), and VO doesn't know how to interact with a stack - it identifies the window as unknown and doesn't allow you to interact with its elements/objects.

Re: screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread Phil Davis
Thank you Mark. I think your assessment of this matter is probably accurate. Phil On 8/26/15 12:38 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Phil, As far as I know, LiveCode is currently incompatible with screen readers. This issue has been reported at http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7286

Re: screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Phil, As far as I know, LiveCode is currently incompatible with screen readers. This issue has been reported at http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7286 but I don't get the impression that RunRev has a serious interest in fixing this. One of the comments says widgets will solve it,

Re: screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread Phil Davis
I see there are some related comments in the Forums. Looks like I'm not alone. Phil On 8/26/15 12:04 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Has anyone been able to make desktop stacks work with screen readers? I'm experimenting with the Mac's VoiceOver utility (included with OS X), and VO doesn't know how to

Re: Centered Text

2015-08-26 Thread Randy Hengst
I see the same result you describe in LC 7.0.4 on Mac OSX 10.10.2 But, it works correctly with LC 6.7.5 on the same Mac … in other words, it centers the text without the dontWrap property on. be well, randy Randy Hengst www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com http://www.classroomfocusedsoftware.com/

Re: screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: I see there are some related comments in the Forums. Looks like I'm not alone. Phil On 8/26/15 12:04 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Has anyone been able to make desktop stacks work with screen readers? I'm experimenting with the

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Charles Warwick
Should I change the description to “FIX: Handler List Filter”? On 26 Aug 2015, at 4:58 pm, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: On 08/25/2015 11:07 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Good idea… request submitted: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Charles Warwick
Good idea… request submitted: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 On 25 Aug 2015, at 11:30 pm, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: Why not put in a bug report with an enhancement request with the changes? I've supplied a

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Mark Wieder
On 08/25/2015 11:07 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Good idea… request submitted: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 Excellent - Richard: is 'IDE Enhancement' a good flag in addition to 'Bugfix' to get team attention? -- Mark Wieder

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: On 08/25/2015 11:07 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Good idea… request submitted: http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 http://quality.runrev.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15774 Excellent - Richard: is 'IDE Enhancement' a good flag in addition to 'Bugfix' to get team

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Warren Samples
On 08/26/2015 10:23 AM, Richmond wrote: Really excited, now I have a functioning 64-bit system, to dig into this 'puppy'. Richmond. Richmond, Please let me know if you can build a working standalone on your system. I can't get a standalone built in any version of LC8 to open and run on my

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 08:15 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:46 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:06 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: snip [1] For those who enjoy spoilers: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/HTML5%20Deployment.md

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 08:02 PM, Richmond wrote: I'm playing with the 64-bit version of LC 8.0.0 dp3 [ultimate joke: 3 days after I change from 32-bit Linux to 64-bit, RunRev release a dp of version 8.0.0 for 32-bit Linux] 1. No Widget Builder visible yet in Development Plugins Widget Builder

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 07:20 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 08/26/2015 10:23 AM, Richmond wrote: Really excited, now I have a functioning 64-bit system, to dig into this 'puppy'. Richmond. Richmond, Please let me know if you can build a working standalone on your system. I can't get a standalone

Centered Text

2015-08-26 Thread Dan Friedman
Is this a bug? Make a field and set the size of it to 20x20 and set the textAlign to centered. Put the text ABC in it. The text is not centered. Now, set the dontWrap of the field to true, and the text is displayed as it should. Correct behavior or bug? LC 7.0.1 -Dan

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:46 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:06 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: snip [1] For those who enjoy spoilers: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/HTML5%20Deployment.md snip How do you read .md files? Richmond.

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 07:49 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 07:20 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 08/26/2015 10:23 AM, Richmond wrote: Really excited, now I have a functioning 64-bit system, to dig into this 'puppy'. Richmond. Richmond, Please let me know if you can build a working standalone on

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
I'm playing with the 64-bit version of LC 8.0.0 dp3 [ultimate joke: 3 days after I change from 32-bit Linux to 64-bit, RunRev release a dp of version 8.0.0 for 32-bit Linux] 1. No Widget Builder visible yet in Development Plugins Widget Builder Richmond.

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kay C Lan wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, RunRevPlanet feed at smpcsupport.com wrote: For all three I use Geany. http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode It's not clear to me what integration Geany and Webstorm have built in, but let's dream and say LiveCode allowed

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-27 00:29, David Bovill wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: * For a detailed, step-by-step tutorial for creating a widget, see this blog post: https://livecode.com/write-a-widget-in-8-steps/. Is there one for library creation? Not

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-27 00:44, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-27 00:29, David Bovill wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Peter TB Brett wrote: * For a detailed, step-by-step tutorial for creating a widget, see this blog post: https://livecode.com/write-a-widget-in-8-steps/.

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-27 00:44, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-27 00:29, David Bovill wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Peter TB Brett wrote: * For a detailed, step-by-step tutorial for creating a widget, see this blog post:

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-26 23:28, Richmond wrote: [wall of text] To answer the questions that I was able to identify: * The Extension Builder tool is used for compiling and packaging extensions. * Extensions may be either libraries (which add handlers to the LiveCode message path), widgets (which

Re: screen readers

2015-08-26 Thread Phil Davis
Hi Trevor, I did indeed miss that thread. Thanks for the heads-up! Phil On 8/26/15 1:14 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Phil Davis rev...@pdslabs.net wrote: I see there are some related comments in the Forums. Looks like I'm not alone. Phil On 8/26/15 12:04 PM,

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
So; had a bash with LiveCode 8.0.0 dp3 on Windows 7 (thanks to the good offices of VMware Player 7 on Xubuntu 64-bit 15.04*) and found that there is no obvious differences to the 64-bit Linux version. So (bad habit that, keeping writing 'so'), back to Linux and trying to learn something about

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Peter TB Brett wrote: On 2015-08-27 00:29, David Bovill wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Peter TB Brett wrote: * For a detailed, step-by-step tutorial for creating a widget, see this blog post: https://livecode.com/write-a-widget-in-8-steps/. Is there one for library creation? Not

Re: video conferencing with LiveCode?

2015-08-26 Thread Dave Kilroy
Thanks Mark, very useful info - if the client goes ahead the project will implemented in stages (text messaging first, video later) by which time we should have HTML5... If and when I ever get video conferencing I'll report back here Kind regards Dave Mark Wilcox-2 wrote Almost all of the

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 26/08/2015 08:07, Charles Warwick wrote: Should I change the description to “FIX: Handler List Filter”? On 26 Aug 2015, at 4:58 pm, Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: On 08/25/2015 11:07 PM, Charles Warwick wrote: Good idea… request submitted:

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-26 Thread Kay C Lan
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote: For all three I use Geany. http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode It's not clear to me what integration Geany and Webstorm have built in, but let's dream and say LiveCode allowed you to use Geany as it's

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 01:06 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: snip [1] For those who enjoy spoilers: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/HTML5%20Deployment.md snip How do you read .md files? Richmond. ___ use-livecode

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 01:46 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:06 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: snip [1] For those who enjoy spoilers: https://github.com/runrev/livecode-ide/blob/develop/Documentation/guides/HTML5%20Deployment.md snip How do you read .md files? Richmond.

Re: Script editor handler filter [was: Re: Script Editor future]

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Kerner
Yeah, let's please use FIX: with or without the brackets (i.e. I've been marking mine [FIX:]), so we can find them easier... On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:48 AM, Richmond richmondmathew...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:46 PM, Richmond wrote: On 08/26/2015 01:06 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote:

Building from develop on OS X

2015-08-26 Thread Charles Warwick
After causing myself some problems with my local copy of the develop branch of LiveCode, I pulled down a fresh copy of the repo today and built it under OS X. While it built successfully and starts ok, the extensions manager only opens as an empty window, and none of the widgets show in the

Re: Building from develop on OS X

2015-08-26 Thread Ali Lloyd
Ah actually, on second thoughts it is probably the extensions target that you need to build. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:43 PM Ali Lloyd ali.ll...@livecode.com wrote: It sounds like you haven't built the revZip target (and probably the other externals too). Try building the LiveCode-all target

Re: Building from develop on OS X

2015-08-26 Thread Ali Lloyd
It sounds like you haven't built the revZip target (and probably the other externals too). Try building the LiveCode-all target and then run development again. Ali On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:33 PM Charles Warwick char...@techstrategies.com.au wrote: After causing myself some problems with my

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
On 26 Aug 2015, at 15:57, Paul Richards p...@smarttsoftware.co.uk wrote: Downloads for this version have gone live.. I'm sure LC will follow up with an official announcement and changelog shortly Paul :) Apparently, I don’t type the release email quickly enough ;) Fraser

v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Paul Richards
Downloads for this version have gone live.. I'm sure LC will follow up with an official announcement and changelog shortly Paul :) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage

Release: LiveCode 8.0 DP 3

2015-08-26 Thread Fraser Gordon
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.0 DP 3. Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure you back up your stacks before testing them. ***Known Issues***: - iOS device builds are currently broken. However it is still possible to test iOS apps in

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 06:01 PM, Fraser Gordon wrote: On 26 Aug 2015, at 15:57, Paul Richards p...@smarttsoftware.co.uk wrote: Downloads for this version have gone live.. I'm sure LC will follow up with an official announcement and changelog shortly Paul :) Apparently, I don’t type the release email

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2015 10:42 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 08/26/2015 11:54 AM, Richmond wrote: I just knocked together a standard stack with one button containing the script: on mouseUp put HELLO end mouseUp before I tried building a standalone, that script did NOT work . . . I built a 64-bit

Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-26 Thread RunRevPlanet
Kay C Lan said: let's dream and say LiveCode allowed you to use Geany as it's Script Editior. This would be a bad thing because? None of my comments are from the perspective that enabling LiveCode to use an external editor is a bad thing. More that for a cross platform IDE, written in

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 2015-08-27 01:02, Richard Gaskin wrote: Peter TB Brett wrote: He's talking about libraries written as extensions using LiveCode Builder. Since LiveCode 8 doesn't have LiveCode Builder, could you please clarify your question? No need; apparently I just missed Builder in his question.

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-26 Thread RunRevPlanet
Thierry Douez said: If you are interested to this project, do you have some knowledge or links about adding a language, compilation tools,.. to geany? No I don't know of any links and haven't done that sort of work before, so I am afraid I can't be much help. I will have a look around

Re: v8 DP3

2015-08-26 Thread David Bovill
Is there one for library creation? Not the ancient one from Kevin? On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Peter TB Brett peter.br...@livecode.com wrote: On 2015-08-26 23:28, Richmond wrote: [wall of text] To answer the questions that I was able to identify: * The Extension Builder tool is used

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-26 Thread Mike Kerner
So has anyone looked at dp3 to see if the script editor is strapped, yet, or are we still a ways off from that? Once it's more workable (because you oughta try working on that code, now. Ugh), hopefully we can all make it better. On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:03 PM, RunRevPlanet

Re: Script Editor future (was Open Source Kickstarter Report Card)

2015-08-26 Thread Kay C Lan
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:03 AM, RunRevPlanet f...@smpcsupport.com wrote: None of my comments are from the perspective that enabling LiveCode to use an external editor is a bad thing. So we agree then. As Richard said, choice is a good thing. More that for a cross platform IDE, written