9.5 has a lot of other things that will take more effort to merge and test
all the bug fixes. 9.5 has features that could cause regressions. LC
released 9.0.5 to push out the bug fixes faster. LC apparently wanted to get
us all the bug fixes for users that don't need:
1) Xcode 11.1 / iOS 13.1 SDK.
Thank you Richard for diverting us onto a more productive direction.
This won't be my only reply to this thread. This is mostly a discussion
of "what do I want", rather than "what can we do".
On 04/10/2019 18:47, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote:
"Where would we like LiveCode to be?"
Sorry, I didn't see it until January. It must have been forwarded.
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On October 4, 2019 2:13:59 PM "Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode"
wrote:
On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Bob Sneidar via
9.05 is for the foolish people who bought the special indy license for
version 9
You know, the people who where expecting a stable product that was feature
complete for the version.
Unfortunately, such a beast does not exist.
I will not make the same mistake again.
On Fri, 4 Oct 2019 at 19:21,
Yes, any bug fixes in 9.0.5 will be (or have been) merged into the 9.5 branch.
Thanks,
Brian
On Oct 4, 2019, 4:01 PM -0400, JJS via use-livecode
, wrote:
> I understand, but these will be merged into 9.5.x ? right?
>
> I might think people will go to 9.5.x instead of 9.0.5
>
> Op 4-10-2019 om
On an old sock. Which explains why it's missing.
Bob S
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 14:52 , Jeff Reynolds via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> That’s because she won’t write that message until a few months from now...
>
> Jeff
>
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:10 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
BTW, LiveCode has set up their own Kickstarter-type web site in the past.
Maybe they'd be willing to help with that if they aren't too busy.
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On October 4, 2019 3:51:49 AM Richmond via
Figuring it out is one of the challenges. I think you'd first need to
prioritize the bugs you and others want fixed, which may be the hardest
part. I know LC faces that daily, their criteria is to prioritize by
severity and/or by the number of people the issue impacts. You and whoever
joins
I understand, but these will be merged into 9.5.x ? right?
I might think people will go to 9.5.x instead of 9.0.5
Op 4-10-2019 om 21:47 schreef Brian Milby via use-livecode:
9.0.x merely fixes bugs
9.5 is a feature bump release (and 9.5.x will be subsequent bug fix releases)
Thanks,
Brian
On
Yep, that's something i also do not fully understand, as 9.5.0 is of
both worlds 32 and 64 bits
Op 4-10-2019 om 20:25 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
I am a bit confused about LiveCode 9.0.5 Stable,
as surely it has been superseded by LiveCode 9.5.0 Stable?
After all LiveCode 8.2.0 went
I agree with this, Livecode gives fairly quick insight in the
programming process
Op 4-10-2019 om 20:09 schreef Richmond via use-livecode:
I would like LiveCode to be "up there" in the top 5 of languages
used in school world-wide for teaching within the next 10 years.
I would like private
9.0.x merely fixes bugs
9.5 is a feature bump release (and 9.5.x will be subsequent bug fix releases)
Thanks,
Brian
On Oct 4, 2019, 2:26 PM -0400, Richmond via use-livecode
, wrote:
> I am a bit confused about LiveCode 9.0.5 Stable,
> as surely it has been superseded by LiveCode 9.5.0 Stable?
>
On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:27 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
wrote:
>
> Talk to Jacgue about that. Bring extra socks.
I’ll bring it up when we meet last week. She seems to have misplaced next
month’s message . . .
—
Richard E. Hawkins, Esq.
The Hawkins Law Firm
3430 E. Flamingo Rd.
Suite
I am a bit confused about LiveCode 9.0.5 Stable,
as surely it has been superseded by LiveCode 9.5.0 Stable?
After all LiveCode 8.2.0 went "nowhere".
I would be grateful if someone could explain how stable releases
released after stable versions of LiveCode with higher version
numbers work in
I would like LiveCode to be "up there" in the top 5 of languages
used in school world-wide for teaching within the next 10 years.
I would like private educational institutions to invest in LiveCode
and supply large-scale feedback to LiveCode Central as to any
educational enhancements they may
The question was: Where is LiveCode now?
It's in the 21st century, where proprietary software continues to thrive
in consumer segments, but nearly all infrastructure and dev tools are
Free and Open Source.
Compare and contrast:
-
Python in the third most popular language in the world.
The original question mentioned testing and debugging.
I tend to develop on the Mac and test on Windows. At times I need to develop on
Windows because there are unknowns in the environment or I'm using some Windows
specific hardware. Especially internal hardware.
It is a big pain to have
I use Parallels + Windows 10 and a while back I switched to an SSD drive - wow
what a difference that made, especially boot up time. I could never go back to
using a virtual machine on a standard hard drive.
Marty
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:33 AM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
>
Just to add something here. Using an SSD instead of an HDD will make a crappy
computer run like a decent one. Hard Drive data transfer is the single most
important factor in the speed of a computer. Some might say memory, but more
memory makes it faster only because the HDD needs to be accessed
Martin Koob wrote:
> I have been developing the application on on a Mac to this point but
> need to have the PC for testing and debugging in a Windows
> environment.
>
> Being a Mac guy I am not sure what I should look for in a PC—
> processor, speed, RAM, etc.
Running Windows on metal is nice,
Tell your girlfriend/wife that you generally like her, but she has annoying
issues. I hope the couch is comfy. LOL!
Bob S
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 08:35 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> Bob,
> Agreed... I held out to the bitter end with XP(security) then Win 7(EOL
> 1/2020) So I
Talk to Jacgue about that. Bring extra socks.
Bob S
> On Oct 4, 2019, at 04:36 , Heather Laine via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> We do not as yet have the ability to time travel in order to prevent the
> issue having arisen.
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use-livecode
There are probably quite a few who, like me, have used LC/RR/MC for years,
creating in-house labor-saving devices (for myself, they are mostly of the
variety "pull A,B, and C from X, rearrange them and format them to Y, and spit
the result out as a text file"). Could I have [attempted] to
On 10/4/19 1:55 AM, Curry Kenworthy via use-livecode wrote:
PS. When "debugging" your antivirus, system settings, and other software
to make your machine operate more smoothly, it's helpful to open the
Task Manager and sort the Processes list by Disk. You'll discover the
issues faster that
Bob,
Agreed... I held out to the bitter end with XP(security) then Win 7(EOL
1/2020) So I went to 10.
Whilst Win 10 does have its annoying issues(forced updates) I generally like
it. I set updates to ask me before updating so I/ME/Mine can decide when to
install. I now run Win 10 Hyper-V with a
If Windows were girlfriends...
I used to hate Windows, back before 1995. I swore I'd never have anything to do
with her, always pretending to be pretty, but it was just a mask over top of
that ugly DOS. Windows 2000... nuther MEH! BORING!
XP! Now there was an improvement! I actually LIKED XP
Hello Matthias,
This is because of the autoupdated being 32bit only in LC 9.0.5. We have
fixed this in LC 9.5.0 (or in 9.5.1 rc1 which is not released yet - I do
not remember at the moment).
So I _think_ that LC 9.0.5 will continue to work in Catalina, but the
autoupdater will not.
Is there any
Thanks Panos and LC Team,
one little question.
LC 9.0.5 Business is showing here the well known "This app is not optimised
for your Mac". If LC 9.05 is the last of the 9.0.x release cycle, will that
mean, that 9.0.5 will not run under Catalina?
Regards,
Matthias
Matthias Rebbe
free
Dear list members,
We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.5 STABLE.
Getting the Release
===
You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via
the automatic updater.
Release Contents
LiveCode 9.0.5 comes with more than
Dear Sean,
If you look back through that thread you will see that we did more than
apologise. We expressed regret, and we also showed willing to jump in and fix
the issue as soon as was humanly possible. Which is all anyone can do when
something goes wrong. We do not as yet have the ability to
And there it is (indeed)!! You still managed to get out of apologising to me,
LC. Pft!
Sean Cole
Pi Digital Prod Ltd
> On 4 Oct 2019, at 10:11, Heather Laine via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> :) and there it is. I am happy and relieved to be able to forgive and move
> on.
>
> We all want the
:) and there it is. I am happy and relieved to be able to forgive and move on.
We all want the same thing here: for LiveCode to be hugely successful. Our
official BHAG (Big Hairy Audacious Goal, this is real actual terminology
believe it or not) as stated in our company articles is and has been
Possibly, on rereading my intemperate posting I should be banished to
the naughty corner at least.
I do apologise for all the obvious offense my posting has caused.
However, I will state that that posting was an explosion of frustration
about some issues I feel are very real indeed.
I do
Me:
Currently an i5 chip and 8 GB memory, 1 TB RAM.
Should have said:
Currently an i5 chip and 8 GB memory, 1 TB hard drive.
PS. When "debugging" your antivirus, system settings, and other software
to make your machine operate more smoothly, it's helpful to open the
Task Manager and
Yes, I am willing to organise a fundraiser to help finance ironing out
LiveCode bugs.
I am, however, not sure how to go about that;
1. Set up a 'thing' on Indiegogo (because this is not a fund-raiser to
have a set lower limit)?
2. Link it to a dedicated bank account belonging to LiveCode?
For anyone truly interested in the original question of "Recommended
specs for Windows Development computer"
(... as opposed to any OS-partisan virtue signaling, or avoiding Windows
hardware, or maintaining a single computer as the rule, etc ...)
here's my take, from many years of often
I followed this thread, and what came up to me is "Don't kill your darling"
I've seen this with Synthmaker/Flowstone happening too, people not
happy, starting to rant or whatever, murdering the thing you love.
Be constructive!
I truly believe that a lot of programmers here, including myself,
To banish Richmond, or to banish bugs? Which is the bigger problem?
Which is more directly responsible for the existence of this thread?
I would encourage looking at "net" bugs: bugs fixed, versus bugs
introduced or regressed, during a time period. In development there are
always bugs, and
I was more impressed by the more than 1 fixes. :)
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On October 3, 2019 10:35:18 PM Mark Wieder via use-livecode
wrote:
On 10/3/19 7:51 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote:
Hm.
The fundraiser idea has been discussed before in regard to desired new
feature requests but it could easily be done for bugs as well. It only
needs someone to organize it. Are you willing?
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