Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: >On 16.12.20 2:14, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: >> Richmond wrote: >> > Well . . . they could install a later version of Ubuntu (takes >> > about 30-120 minutes) and build and test on that version. >> > >> > Surely not that arduous. >>... >> How familiar are you with the

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sean - This thread began with a concern over how Linux compatibility is described in the Release Notes. I proposed a solution, but it didn't resonate. Perhaps a different approach may work: The audience for the Release Notes is developers, and what developers need to know is where LiveCode

Re: Slow performance on Big Sur

2020-12-15 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I had my client try it. Adding "wait 0 milliseconds" after a "go card" didn't make any difference really. The first four card changes were pretty fast, and after that it got slower and slower with each subsequent card change. I was watching her screen remotely but I couldn't see it due to how re

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I am not familiar at all. But, having built an LC version for Linux it can then be tested on a recent Linux distro. On 16.12.20 2:14, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: Richmond wrote: > Well . . . they could install a later version of Ubuntu (takes about > 30-120 minutes) and build and tes

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
It’s this kind of rhetoric that drive me to madness and then getting a used of being abusive as I defend what I’ve said. Richard, there is no need as you have clearly misinterpreted practically everything I said in an effort to get some kind of oneupmanship. >> On 16 Dec 2020, at 01:00, Richa

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Pi Digital wrote: > But that does not seem to correlate to the way it is for MacOS or Win. > Are you saying they compile from all of those versions of MacOS and > Win they reference to supporting. Mac and Windows are each made by a single organization, with specs defining compatibility. "Linu

Secure connection to server

2020-12-15 Thread Neville Smythe via use-livecode
A little while ago in this forum we were alerted to the fact that LC direct connection to a remote database not using SSL was a security hole. This also applies to managing Mailman lists on a remote server. After a steep (re-)learning curve with the various technologies, I now have a working me

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Richmond wrote: > Well . . . they could install a later version of Ubuntu (takes about > 30-120 minutes) and build and test on that version. > > Surely not that arduous. Exactly how sure are you? What they need to do is more than what customers need to do. How familiar are you with the LC build

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
Well . . . they could install a later version of Ubuntu (takes about 30-120 minutes) and build and test on that version. Surely not that arduous. Best, Richmond. On 15.12.20 19:38, Mark Wieder via use-livecode wrote: On 12/15/20 3:48 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: 2. Stir up trouble.

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Thanks Panos. My main concern of late has been the PDF output font rendering in CentOS and I am hoping that it will be better in Ubuntu or another distro. But I’m guessing I’m going to have to do a whole heap of testing to find out. Sean Cole Pi Digital > On 15 Dec 2020, at 09:24, merakosp

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
But that does not seem to correlate to the way it is for MacOS or Win. Are you saying they compile from all of those versions of MacOS and Win they reference to supporting. This is a very odd use of semantics. When reading about LiveCode support, to me it doesn’t matter if it is LC Ltd or th

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 12/15/20 3:48 AM, Richmond via use-livecode wrote: 2. Stir up trouble. Personally I think that LiveCode central are being a bit @#$%^&* claiming that LiveCode is cross-platform and not saying they support more recent versions than Ubuntu 16.04 and so on. And stirring up trouble means tha

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Heriberto Torrado via use-livecode
Hi Sean & Richmond, I think it is best to only support LTS versions and just one desktop (Gnome).  This will standardize the platform a bit (Hey, I don't want to start a flame, I'm just saying that Gnome and Ubuntu / Debian are the most used). The problem with LINUX is the sheer number of diff

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Sean Cole wrote: > On 15 Dec 2020, at 02:52, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> As Mark Weider noted, the "official" support is merely a reflection >> of their build system, and it relies on a version of Ubuntu still >> actively getting security updates. > > That doesn’t seem to be stated or inferred in t

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
I would pick a small fight here. On 15.12.20 11:24, merakosp via use-livecode wrote: Hello Sean, Off the top of my head, the main Linux issues that are currently unresolved are: 1. The player object is broken on all Linux distros. You might be able to workaround this by using shell commands wi

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Richmond via use-livecode
1. I have never, ever experienced any problems at all with any versions of LiveCode on any versions of Xubuntu that are more 'modern' than 16.04. 2. Stir up trouble. Personally I think that LiveCode central are being a bit @#$%^&* claiming that LiveCode is cross-platform and not saying they su

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread merakosp via use-livecode
Hello Sean, Off the top of my head, the main Linux issues that are currently unresolved are: 1. The player object is broken on all Linux distros. You might be able to workaround this by using shell commands with mplayer. 2. The browser widget is broken in most Linux distros. It might work for ju

Re: CentOS Death in 2021

2020-12-15 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
> On 15 Dec 2020, at 02:52, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > As Mark Weider noted, the "official" support is merely a reflection of their > build system, and it relies on a version of Ubuntu still actively getting > security updates. That doesn’t seem to be stated or inferred in