> I wrote:
> You could build on https://www.masswerk.at/elizabot/
> ...
> You could similarly make a LC GUI based on elizabot.js in
> a browser widget.
> ...
Here is a basic LiveCode GUI:
Browser Widget usage example #28: ELIZA_bot
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=184198#p184198
The
This is a wonderful project.
Should be limited to bugs that are NOT regressions.
And instead extended by feature requests.
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You could build on
https://www.masswerk.at/elizabot/
They build there in javascript on it for a "terminal" or
speech i/o.
You could similarly make a LC GUI based on elizabot.js in
a browser widget.
Or moreover translate elizabot.js to LiveCode. The js is
already object oriented and has 1.7K in
> Bob S. wrote:
> Can I just point out, to no one in particular on this list, that
> you don't HAVE TO UPGRADE TO CATALINA??? Apple did not cause your
> version of LC to become obsolete. YOU DID!
>
> Matthias R. wrote:
> Thanks Bot, i thought the same, but did not dare to write it.
It is just
"Catalina is a girl's name of Spanish origin meaning 'pure'".
What a beautiful sounding name!
But MacOS Catalina is a pure killer. Killed my beloved LC 6/7
(I need for development of Raspi stacks) and sometimes need
for speed.
I learned LiveCode using LC 6 in 2013.
TMHO, LC 6.7.11 was the most
> Sean C. wrote;
> Now let me get back to fixing HTML5 for you!!
Wow ... Where is the piece I missed?
@Heather
Every (software) kingdom needs a court jester.
They have special rights and nobody should be insulted by them.
(And sometimes they say, just as young children, the truth.)
Possibly the server of your webpage is very slow.
I need here at most 9-10 seconds to load a standalone
the first time from http://hyperhh.de/html5 .
You could load one of the latest (9.5.0 created) there
and compare.
Or you have conflict with SOP (same origin policy).
Is your standalone trying
> Trevor D. wrote:
> If that is the case and they can build that revenue source
> then it should ultimately be a good thing for those of us
> who don't use LiveCode FM. It is unfortunate that LC has
> to sit mostly idle for so long though.
All true. But will the idle state of LC ever change
LC 9.0.5 closed at about 42 memory leaks ...
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This is my last HTML5-contribution for a while (I'm waiting for LC
input to HTML5).
This is now more javascript than intended. But the LC mouse
coordinates computation has a bug (was reported by Bernd).
You can now grab and resize all windows and reorder the layers of
them (incl. the main
No.
See line 568 to 574 of revliburl.livecodescript
(put "sftp protocol not supported in this version")
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GeoLib_v105 is now a library (as substack of the sample stack).
The new version has several additions. These are now the supported functions
(rightClick the hh-Logo in the sample stack to see the library stack script):
* getHaversineDistance(point1,point2)
* getDistance(point1,point2
@Mark
This is the silence(*) that is the same as is with LC (without
LCFM) since one year.
What about *some* progress at least with
• an up-to-date libbrowser/browser widget
that *works* on latest OS of Mac/Win/linux(ubuntu)?
• full keyboard and mouse events support in HTML standalones?
•
Perhaps you wish to select the text (not getting the selected text
what is more difficult) of a textarea with id='j1" then you can do:
on mouseUp
put 10 into selStart; put 20 into selEnd
do "document.getElementById('j1')." & \
"setSelectionRange("& selStart,selEnd &");" in widget
> JLG wrote:
> Is there a way select text by script in a browser widget? I thought I'd
> done that before but I don't see a command for it now.
You certainly didn't that without javascript.
Here is a demostack that shows how to do that, only a few lines are
needed for using a
Forgot the link.
BasicGeoLib is available on "SampleStacks" or here:
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/949/basicGeoLib
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Some specialists may be interested in the following, please report if you have
any problem with the stack.
BasicGeoLib is a collection of very basic functions for using geoPoints.
The points have to be in the format: longitude,latitude in that order,
as decimal numbers, as in GeoJSON, NOT in
OSTimeInfo_105 is #111 of the Raspi stacks collection.
What it does:
Shows the uptime (since last reboot) and
shows last reboot, last shutdown and last uptime.
Works with LC 6/7/8/9
on Mac, Win 7/10, linux (Ubuntu 1904 flavours)
and with LC 6.5.1/7.0.4
on Raspi 3/4 running Raspbian or Lubuntu.
As this was several times a question in the forum and also in
the use-list here a method that works in the browser widget
(without redirecting) on all platforms that support the widget.
Browser widget usage example #27: NoNavigation/NoBackNavigation
In a situation where you can't 'directly' access the filesystem
in order to save or read a stack but can write any variable to a
local file and read from any local file to a variable,
the questions arise:
• Can we save (the current state of) a stack to a variable in a
format as the usual
> Alex T. wrote:
> Is there a way to force a reload of the bit you want (need) to reload,
> without reloading the engine ?
(Continuing my answer)
For a reload from cache you can
do "location.reload()" as "javascript"
If you mean to load another standalone or reset the current standalone
Originally such things could be used to "redirect" urls.
But in the current browser widget this is not used and in fact there
is no difference between the two:
[ The LCB code is
public handler OnLaunchUrl(in pUrl as String)
setUrl(pUrl)
end handler ]
But I have meanwhile found a solution you
> Is there a way to force a reload of the bit you want (need) to reload,
> without reloading the engine ?
A reload doesn't reload the engine at any rate. To the contrary, it usually
just resets the standalone if the engine is (also on server) identical.
So reloading a standalone or loading
> JLG wrote:
> What is the difference between "launch URL" and "set the URL" in a
> browser widget?
You probably mean load url which caches non-blocking,
contrary to set url.
There is also load url in widget which also sends you a message,
contrary to set url.
Launch url leaves LC and launches
> Rick H. wrote:
> LC HTML5 engine in my opinion isn’t practical for many of the
> reasons other’s have stated...
> ... What does work for making websites/webpages is:
> Apache 2.x, LC Server, databases such as PostgreSQL,
> non-LC HTML5, and CSS.
I have made with nearly every progress in the
Just uploaded the source code to "Sample Stacks":
[1] HTML5 Multi Windows (Focus-Move-Resize) v110
[2] HTML5 GoStackURL v100
[3] HTML5 Native Field v106
or use
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/945/ ... for [1]
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/947/ ... for [2]
The HTML5 deployment has its own problems. The biggest problem is
that people use it for free and are not willing to buy (at least
for a short period) the HTML5 license in order to support further
LC development in that field (but then moan about missing features).
So, also from that reason,
One shouldn't go for months without a gift (for some of you). Here is its.
* Native HTML5 Field v_101 (for HTML5 standalones )*
This works with Chrome, Firefox and Safari on Mac, Windows and linux.
(With Firefox are problems when dragging from one field to the other).
Test it from
(US)
To do the same things twice or three times is OK
if some people have difficulties to do their job.
But that's going too far now.
After close to a week the "maintenance" people are
still exercising only.
Many posts are lost in forums and use-list.
No upload to livecodeshare is possible.
Nearly
> Geoff C. wrote:
> If I set the url for the browser widget to a url, and the
> server sets a cookie, can I read/modify/delete that cookie?
Cookie structure (itemdel is ";").
item 1: A "name = value" pair containing the actual data,
item 2: An expiry date after which it is no longer valid,
(Assuming you don't mean the backKey that leaves your app.)
This is eventually not possible from security reasons.
There are brute force javascript approaches that probably will
break as soon as libbrowser changes and have side effects.
Using "on browserNavigateBegin" will lead to an infinite
I added two demos to my HTML5 standalone samples
(US) http://hh.on-rev.com/html5/index-large.html#as
(EU) http://hyperhh.de/html5/index-large.html#as
1 • Multi Focus-Move-Resize
shows how to move and resize multiple windows (substacks) incl.
the main window.
Moreover the stack windows are
> Heather wrote:
> Very interesting, yes. We're investigating. Probably to do
> with who posted what when, at what point of transition.
Some "diff threads" disappeared but it is Ok now.
Possibly this was simply a wrong browser/platform switch.
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> Heather wrote:
> Hooray, we are back. Thanks to Robin's dedicated work and excellent
> detective abilities in figuring out the problem.
> Apologies to all for the outage of the lists, they didn't make it
> over correctly to our new server and diagnosing the issue was tricky!
>
> You can all
The forums have when viewed in Firefox-Mac some days and
newer messages lost. Different to Safari/Chrome-Mac where
some in-between-posts are lost.
This is NOT a problem of caching, but another problem
created by "maintenance"...
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(has maintenance forever respectively)?
It was working without problems. And the domain
runrev.com is still alive ...
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I really don't mind the fact. I even wonder that it wasn't done
earlier. Could also be done with other "runrev" and "rev" things
(for example http://lists.runrev.com and all the libraries).
But I mind the procedure. This is not
Obviously they killed some x.runrev.com addresses and
replaced them by x.livecode.com (but not all).
Under maintenance forever (so watch 'old' links):
forums.runrev.com/
quality.runrev.com/
livecodeshare.runrev.com/
works now as:
forums.livecode.com/
quality.livecode.com/
but doesn't exist:
> Matthias R. wrote:
> Just tried and website is accessible
You probably mean the top page of livecode.com?
What do you do with that page?
But on the LC toolbar click "Sample Stacks" or "Tutorials":
Under maintenance, since a few thousand minutes ...
The new LC without LCFM:
> Under Maintenance
>
> We're working on some changes. Unfortunately, livecode.com is
> temporarily unavailable.
> We expect to be back in a few minutes.
Never ever anything has been more than 90% finished with LC.
That's life, probably this is impossible, also with
> Bob S. wrote:
> I seem to remember some time ago there was a key combination
> so that when you sized an image, instead of cropping it, it
> would scale it. Am I imagining things? I can create a new
> scaled image in Preview, so no big deal.
Resizing with the pointer tool has these modifier
Sorry, the correct download link (if not from "Sample Stacks") is
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/945/
The one below loses the stack name (downloads as "rev" only).
> I wrote:
> Download "HTML5 Focus-Move-Resize"
> from "Sample Stacks" of the LC toolbar or
>
>
The stack shows simple methods how to resize and move a HTML5
standalone in the browser and how to focus a field so that you
can start typing at startup without first clicking in a field.
Moving a stack window has to be done by JavaScript, the script
is in the stack script. It is added to your
> So with this tip the browser widget then runs on Linux (Ubuntu) but only
> in the IDE? Not as standalone?
On linux QR-Reader runs here fine with LC 9.0.5 and 8.1.10 in the IDE
on Ubuntu/xUbuntu 1604 64 bit and also as standalone which was made on
Mac using LC 9.0.5 (with "search for required
Updated to version v101.
Download QR-Reader_v101 from "Sample Stacks" of the LC toolbar or
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/943/
The stack works now also on linux with snapshots from the browser widget or
other apps on screen using a lengthy but clever workaround by Mark Wieder
(see bug #
QR-Reader runs with any edition of LC 8/9 (tested with 9.5/9.0.4/8.1.10)
on every platform that supports the browser widget.
It is a QR code *reader* which reads from static images that may be
slightly rotated/skewed/distorted.
You can make it to a QR code *scanner* by providing webCam/mobileCam
My stack is a (simple) QR Code *reader* not a *scanner*.
It reads from static images.
That is, if you use a webcam on desktop or a built-in camera on mobile you have
to take a (sharp) picture and then select from that picture to read the code.
Usually a webcam or a mobile that cannot do an
I have a QRcode Reader nearly finished.
Will publish it on Wednesday in "Sample Stacks".
There will be also a QRcode Writer that outputs to a
SVG icon widget (or to a polygon graphic or to an image).
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1. Read for N lines reads sequentially, doesn't need an offset.
2. You could instead try to do that in one strike:
put url ("file:"&) into str
filter str with "*"
typical line for further extracting:
U+1F600
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Did you already try (use a counter
add 42 to lineCntr
read from file for 42 lines --> placed into it
(check the result for empty or "eof")
Note. The file contains base64 encoded imagedata (which is in one long line).
Such a line may be too long to display in a LC field (-> may cause a hang).
> But does that mean that my previous "chmod" does not stick?
Yes, on every unix system. From security reasons.
The Carbon question should better be answered by a team member.
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> Klaus M. wrote:
> yes, success, at least partly, now I get a SHELL error -> ... access denied
> Although I "chmod"ded that file to "777" (via the INFO window on my Mac), so
> everyone should be able to access it, before I put it into a custom property
> of my
> Klaus M. wrote:
> yes, success, at least partly, now I get a SHELL error -> ... access denied
> Although I "chmod"ded that file to "777" (via the INFO window on my Mac), so
> everyone should be able to access it, before I put it into a custom property
> of my stack. What can I do to make it run?
Often passwords should obey some rules, e.g.
contain at least a certain number of digits, lowercase chars, uppercase chars,
xtra chars with an ascii number in range 32-127 or special local chars as
"åáãçß". Or contain only some of these char groups.
Stack PasswordRules allows to check whether a
> Klaus M. wrote:
> and what can I do to make my app run?
Did you already try to put the compiled things on startup
from custom props into the temporary folder?
I never had problems with running compiled shell scripts
from there.
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There is already truewordOffset available but you have to check
whether the search string is the next trueword.
So matchChunk is faster.
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> Richard H. wrote:
> I need to replace only exact true words, though.
> So I need to be able to take an input string such as
>5*pay - 2*monthlypay
> and be able to replace “pay" with
>getVal(pay,,,debtor)
> without replacing monthlypay.
You could try the following (works for me).
Put
When computing limits for distribution categories given
frequencies the following may be useful:
A number q is a p%-quantile of a data set
If the percentage of data nums <= q is >= p%
and the percentage of data nums >= q is >= (100-p)%
For each percentage p there is an interval
[lowerV,upperV]
> I wrote:
> In order to find these limits simply sort the random data (a random
> sample drawn out of the raw data) and take the values that have
> approximately 30% or 80% of the values below them (no scaling needed
> for that). In statistical terms: Find the 30% and 80% quantiles.
Please
I wrote:
> In order to find these limits simply sort the random data (a random
> sample drawn out of the raw data) and take the values that have
> approximately 30% or 80% of the values below them (no scaling needed
> for that). In statistical terms: Find the 30% and 80% quantiles.
Sorry, read
[@Mark: A (weighted) mean is a location parameter, one number.]
Here the customer (say Dagobert Duck) wants to change/weight the
distribution of the data.
As Dar says, he could do a mapping from 0-800 to bins as
"bad, neutral, good" simply by setting limits for the bins.
For example 0-30 = bad,
> Ralph D. wrote:
> I'm sure there's an actual name for doing this in the statistician's
> world but I don't know what it is.
This has nothing to do with "statistics".
This is simply "try to lie by data cheating".
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Dictionary > widget.signature
(use Bernd's tinyDict):
The pathData is a numerically indexed array of path info elements.
Each path info element contains three keys:
- path - SVG path instructions
- color - the color to paint the path with
- width - the line width of the path
It is now part of
Nothing directly/manually.
The "need" for Gzip is meant to speed up serving the HTML5 standalone.
This is done (after configuring the .htaccess file) by the server.
The standalone builder gives you the files exactly as you need them.
What you can change to your taste is the html file connected to
> JLG wrote:
> Hm. I'm also using a widget spinner. Anyone else? How do we
> know it keeps going when hidden?
See the LCB code:
The spinner widget updates every 0.3 seconds, whether
visible or not.
Instead of hiding you could delete it when done.
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Cumulative Trauma Disorder
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> Craig wrote:
> Probably a brain typo...
What an excellent wording!
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preferences:
A (theoretical) circle is effectively a regular polygon with "many" vertices.
LC Script draws only integer valued points (although you can give decimals).
That approximation of a circle by regular polygons is shown in the sample stack
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=98716#p98716
The
>>> The stack needs LC 9. It also runs in LC 8 but
>>> up to 10 times slower.
The stack creates a color palette from any image.
You set the number of colors (2-256) of the palette.
Such palettes are often used to create "harmonic" designs
of drawings/posters or for creating web pages.
You can
> BR wrote:
> The UI is a bit messy, but I want to give a demo of what is possible
> for a coloring book with LC versus scripting this whole thing in HTML5
> with JS/CSS/HTML. (it would be a nightmare)
This is only a demo if your "coloring book" uses simple pixel paint.
HTML5 also includes
It works here in 9.5.0/9.0.5/9.0.2/8.1.10.
But if you won't use the simple find dialogue I described then
you could directly write (change the two instances of "selectedColor"):
1. script of colorPalette of grp "palette" of cd id 1002 of stack
"HAColorChooser":
on mouseUp
setcolor the
This is a custom property name only. So
do cmd-F in the PaintTools stack
search for selectedColor
in "this stack and its stack files"
replace with selectedColor2
Save and you are done.
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> > hh wrote:
> > Here is a very simple drawing stack made once for testing the
> > HTML5 standalone builder.
> >
> > http://hyperhh.de/html5/krikelKrakel2a-8.0.2X.html
> >
> Paul D. wrote:
>
In case you downloaded v160:
[Version 160 had an error in the javascript for listing the (R,G,B)-triplets
(was counting some green for red)]
So please update!
Download "ImageStatistics_v165" from "Sample Stacks" or using
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/882/
Here is a very simple drawing stack made once for testing the
HTML5 standalone builder.
http://hyperhh.de/html5/krikelKrakel2a-8.0.2X.html
> Paul D. wrote:
> ... need a sample drawing stack ...
> Not a paint stack, but one that uses graphic objects.
One of my "early LC works (2014)" may be (partially) what
you are looking for:
Raspberry Pi stacks collection #30 = SmoothDraw4.livecode
http://forums.livecode.com/viewtopic.php?p=104113#p104113
> Paul D. wrote:
> Thank you, but I have realized what I need a tutorial or
> - even better - a
Why not "combine array V > filter V > split V"?
> JLG wrote:
> I need to filter a numeric array by the content of the keys, not by the
> keys themselves. Is there a way to do that without looping through the
> entire array and looking at each element?
> I wrote:
> You can also put the (R,G,B)-triplets into the x^3 bins (ranges combinations)
> that
> are given by dividing for each channel the 0-255 range into
> x=2,4,8,16,32,64,128 bins.
> Dar S. wrote:
> I think I'm doing something wrong. When I check the Table checkbox, I get x*3
> values
Forgot the link, sorry:
Download ImageStatistics_v160 from "Sample Stacks" or using
http://livecodeshare.runrev.com/stack/882/
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[Version 100 computes the marginal color value distribution for each channel
R/G/B
of an image and some statistical parameters for each channel.]
Version 160 now adds the distribution of the (R,G,B)-triplets:
The frequencies of the used (R,G,B)-triplets are listed for that.
By using Javascript
> I wrote:
> It is a "HTML5 Native Button", similar to the platform related "androidbutton"
> or "iosbutton" widgets. Here is the source code
> https://github.com/livecode/livecode/tree/develop/extensions/widgets
>
> This is good to know for people who give advices relating LC to Webdesign,
>
> Roland H. wrote:
> (By the way, what is this HTML button widget meant to do? I searched 40
> minutes and still have no clue... Is this my fault to scratch my head?)
It is a "HTML5 Native Button", similar to the platform related "androidbutton"
or "iosbutton" widgets. Here is the source code
> Tom G. wrote:
> I ended up making my own svg nav bar because i wanted the ability to have
> shadows or glows on the icons, its really easy to code the distribution of
> icons. There was also another limitation that I can't remember. If you
> want more visual control, that is what i would
[Sorry, confused notation. The last part of my previous post should read:]
This is certainly in general a clear method for counting/ identifying
pixels. For example:
The rect (x1,y1,x2,y2) with x1 I wrote:
> "Use center pixel coordinates" does probably mean you use the math-loc
> of a pixel as
> Ralph D. wrote:
> You don't need sub-pixels per say but you need to know they exist.
> I found that out real quick when writing the color gradient math for
> CGI. If I did not use center pixel coordinates the gradients were
> "jaggy" so to speak.
"Use center pixel coordinates" does probably
@Dar.
Could we agree that in LC Script we cannot draw subpixels? (I would like to...)
And yes, you are right with the invariance of width and height. The number of
pixels
isn't dependent of how I enumerate them. Sorry.
> I don't understand why you say "pixel 1".
OK. I should say pixel 1
@Dar.
Probably you wish with your post avoid the confusion between
= a math-point (x,y) which has no dimension, so cannot be drawn and
= a LC-point (x,y) which is (with a linewidth of 1) in fact a
shorthand for the rect (x,y,x+1,y+1)= 1 pixel, which can be drawn.
So the LC-point (x,y) is (with
This is interestingly the same problem that made a lot of people believe
two thousand years were full at the end of 1999/ beginning of 2000.
Two thousand years were full at the END of 2000/ beginning of 2001:
Full year 1 has the left 0, the right 1 and the width = right-left = 1 year,
...,
full
Nothing is wrong:
If you have a row then left is the integer left of first pixel
and right is the integer right of last pixel.
So left and right are the integers that limit the object, NOT pixel numbers.
As to your example:
pixel 1 ranges from 0 to 1, ... pixel 12 ranges from 11 to 12.
The left
Sony Xperia Z1 (Android 4.4.2):
All is readable as wanted, Impressum starts at top, Disclaimer starts at bottom.
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> Klaus M. wrote:
> What the hell is going on here? What am I overlooking?
I have here these problems also from a new stack or the message box on
MacOS 10.14.5 using LC 9.5.0/ 9.0.5/ 8.1.10.
But with "preferences" only, have no problems with "documents" or "desktop".
> Matthias R. wrote:
> Mostly after a restart of the app, sometimes after 2 - 4 restarts
> the png was correctly displayded (orange).
> Tried with paint compression set to png also, but without success.
Just out of interest:
Happened this in the standalone only, not in the IDE?
Happened this on
> Tom B. wrote:
> The issue is that some (not all) images used in a LC standalone app
> appear as black boxes.
Did you already try to
set the paintcompression to PNG
in the standalone?
Or set it to the paintcompression of the imported image?
The black boxes result possibly from alpha data
> David E. wrote:
> Is there some simple way that an openCard handler can branch based on
> what card it is coming from?
TMHO, the function that's made for that is
the target
(dictionary) Returns the object which received the message that started
execution.
Use the target function within a
To avoid misunderstandings:
This relates to a HTML5 standalone, not to using HTML5 in a browser widget.
We could use two steps.
Step 1.
Use one certain audio file. Make this work from the html file containing
where audio is a folder at the same location as your html file
(on the server
>> Curt wrote:
>> While I'm at it... some of the folders in the file path will
>> be in Russian, which is breaking my current handler...
>> I can run those items of the file path through a quick
>> transliteration function to change брать into brat' etc., but
>> thought it's worth checking...
>
Thank you very much for sharing these examples.
> Trevor DeV. wrote:
> For those interested you can find the source code for the projects we
> discussed in the LCB FFI Workshop at the San Jose Conference. The
> pocketsphinx project is an experiment to get it working and teach some
> concepts. The
> Ludovic T. wrote:
> If I go on a website to download text files within the widget browser,
> where I retrieve the downloaded file ?
You could try to use browserUnhandledLoadRequest.
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> Thanks Sean.
> I will have to work hard because I am not familiar with Dynamic HTML.
One simple way to do that:
Write, a little bit more as Sean wrote, in your html file:
Then first set in LC newsound, may be randomly:
put "/audio/guitar-melody.wav" into newsound
Then issue from LC:
do
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