Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Charles Warwick
On 30/07/2016 6:38 pm, Monte Goulding wrote What is tsNet ? A curl external we have licensed from Tech Strategies Does it just happen ? Yes Or do I need to do something to use it ? If so, what ? No, you don’t need to do anything unless you are explicitly selecting inclusions during

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 29 Jul 2016, at 10:53 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > > > > On 29/07/2016 17:14, panagiotis merakos wrote: >> Dear list members, >> We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a >> development preview of LiveCode 8.1. > >> tsNet external >> --

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 29/07/2016 17:14, panagiotis merakos wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. tsNet external -- LiveCode Indy and Business Editions now include the Tech Strategies tsNet external! * Faster

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Awesome update! Seeing so many of the bugs I reported recently fixed, is super encouraging… Thank you! On 7/29/16, 6:14 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of panagiotis merakos" wrote: We are pleased to announce

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
panagiotis merakos wrote: > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a > development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Super-cool, thanks! Lots of nice new additions there. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the

Re: [ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread Mike Kerner
yay! On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 12:14 PM, panagiotis merakos < panos.mera...@livecode.com> wrote: > Dear list members, > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a > development preview of LiveCode 8.1. > > Developer Preview Release > = > Warning: this

[ ANN ] Release 8.1.0 DP-3

2016-07-29 Thread panagiotis merakos
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-3, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure that you back up your stacks before testing them. Getting the Release

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread PystCat
"Use the Force, Harry." --Gandalf > On Jul 7, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > >> On Jul 7, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Richmond wrote: >> >> It is amazing how many "wise" sayings are attributed to many "Wise" people: >> Voltaire and Einstein included. This, I believe,

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Richmond
Personally I always ascribe everything to my Grandfather for a number of very good reasons: 1. He was a highly skilled surgeon of impeccable reputation, and read for pleasure in both Latin and Classical Greek. 2. He never wrote down anything except medical papers. 3. He died in 1975. 4. I

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Peter M. Brigham
On Jul 7, 2016, at 5:11 AM, Richmond wrote: > It is amazing how many "wise" sayings are attributed to many "Wise" people: > Voltaire and Einstein included. This, I believe, is a human tendency to seek > authority to their ideas by ascribing them to authority figures: like > religious (and

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Jacques Clavel
I don't know if Einstein was a genius or not, but if I had a quarter of the genius of Einstein, Ill be very, very, very happy :-)) 2016-07-07 15:45 GMT+02:00 Lagi Pittas : > If we are going to bring up einstein , he is the "scientist" I think who > everybody defers to and

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Lagi Pittas
If we are going to bring up einstein , he is the "scientist" I think who everybody defers to and yet he was basically a 100% fraud and a plagiarist. His equation was publshed by the italian physicist De pretto and many others. While I was making sure I remembered my facts I found this - and

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Richmond
It is amazing how many "wise" sayings are attributed to many "Wise" people: Voltaire and Einstein included. This, I believe, is a human tendency to seek authority to their ideas by ascribing them to authority figures: like religious (and 'religious') people ascribing everything wise to their

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-07 Thread Jacques Clavel
Mark wrote : *At any rate, the quote is variously ascribed to Einstein and to Benjamin Franklin, but probably originated with Voltaire:Lorsque l'on effectue une action, atteint un mauvais résultat, puis répète l'action plusieurs fois attendent un meilleur résultat, on est un peu fou de singe,

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-06 Thread Mark Wieder
On 07/06/2016 10:44 AM, Richmond wrote: Not true; Albert Einstein [The man who knew a lot about Physics and Maths and not much else and Best to stick to things you know something about, yes? At any rate, the quote is variously ascribed to Einstein and to Benjamin Franklin, but probably

somewhat OT, funny (was Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2)

2016-07-06 Thread Dar Scott
Something like this actually happened to a friend of mine and the programmer's solution worked, though she had to apply it several times as the car kept stalling. She was able to get the car back to the mechanic, who apologized and said that he had had to set the car's computer back to factory

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-06 Thread Richmond
Not true; Albert Einstein [The man who knew a lot about Physics and Maths and not much else and is quoted far too often out of context], Induction is bad reasoning ; yet we all do it all of the time. So, I always expect the unexpected; and, oddly enough, it seems to happen quite a lot.

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-06 Thread [-hh]
Mark Wieder wrote: > The dictionary "works" for me in 64-bit linux, but only thusly: > > open the dictionary > you get a blank pane > close the dictionary > open it again Mark, honestly, for what else than opening and closing do *you* need the dictionary? :-) -- View this message in context:

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-06 Thread Lagi Pittas
It was always and still is the same in version 6.x series for the application browser 99.99% of the time. It must have been an itch the devs didn't feel like scratching Gotta live with it now though. Lagi On 6 July 2016 at 06:24, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 07/01/2016

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-05 Thread Mark Wieder
On 07/01/2016 08:26 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: > The dictionary "works" for me in 64-bit linux, but only thusly: > > open the dictionary > you get a blank pane > close the dictionary > open it again An electrician, an engineer, and a programmer are driving to Vegas when

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/01/2016 02:49 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I would suggest filing the report. If anyone complains, I'll take the heat. :) It may be that this is something we'll fix as a community effort, but at least having it in the bug DB will give us a central place to share notes and logs as we work

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Mark Wieder
On 07/01/2016 03:15 PM, Peter TB Brett wrote: They are literally back by popular demand. :-) Thank you. Much appreciated. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 01/07/2016 21:20, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 6/30/2016 8:00 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2 Thank you for adding back the descriptions of bug fixes. For the last few releases all we had were numbers and it was difficult to know exactly

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/30/2016 8:00 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2 Thank you for adding back the descriptions of bug fixes. For the last few releases all we had were numbers and it was difficult to know exactly what was fixed without clicking on each

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Warren Samples wrote: > I never filed a bug report. I reported my problem in a reply to > another release announcement fairly recently and didn't receive > any comment from any of the devs that have been generously > participating on this list so I (perhaps stupidly and/or unfairly) > took that

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/01/2016 11:53 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Warren Samples wrote: > The 64 bit LiveCode IDE fails to open for me under openSUSE Leap > 42.1. ... > The shell prints a backtrace. Would this be helpful to see? Running > LiveCode through strace using some particular option? > >

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Warren Samples wrote: > The 64 bit LiveCode IDE fails to open for me under openSUSE Leap > 42.1. ... > The shell prints a backtrace. Would this be helpful to see? Running > LiveCode through strace using some particular option? > > --- (end quote)--- > > To clarify the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Warren Samples
On 07/01/2016 10:00 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Warren Samples wrote: ldd doesn't show anything missing. Getting LiveCode to run under Tumbleweed requires no head scratching or additional installation of libs, using the official installation DVD and as well the geckoLinux spin (rolling version)

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: > The dictionary "works" for me in 64-bit linux, but only thusly: > > open the dictionary > you get a blank pane > close the dictionary > open it again An electrician, an engineer, and a programmer are driving to Vegas when the car suddenly shudders to a stop. The

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Richard Gaskin
Warren Samples wrote: ldd doesn't show anything missing. Getting LiveCode to run under Tumbleweed requires no head scratching or additional installation of libs, using the official installation DVD and as well the geckoLinux spin (rolling version) in both the XFCE and Budgie flavors. There's a

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-07-01 Thread Richmond
Nothing doing over here (Xubuntu 16.04 64 bit) either with Community or Indy. Richmond. On 1.07.2016 08:07, Mark Wieder wrote: On 06/30/2016 11:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Which distro? I've been able to use the

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mark Wieder
On 06/30/2016 11:44 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: > Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Which distro? I've been able to use the Dictionary on 64-bit Ubuntu (14.04, 15.10, and 16.04) ever since LC v8.0rc1. @LC Ltd: good work on the Dictionary UI refinements. MUCH

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Warren Samples
On 06/30/2016 03:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Warren Samples wrote: > I can't open LiveCode on my Linux machine running the current release > of openSUSE (Leap). I can, however, run it under different release > versions of openSUSE and have it open right now in a virtual machine > running

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mark Waddingham
On 2016-06-30 23:34, Mike Kerner wrote: well, "return error x" gives me a syntax error, and the documentation specifies the syntax I describe, and indicates that it changed in 8.1.0, so before I do anything, why don't we clarify what we think it's supposed to be, first. The release note is

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Monte Goulding
I don’t think there’s a bug but it may be appear so depending on how you test the function. For example: get func() — will set it to the return val so don’t do that to test this Additionally the result is district from the value of the function so: put func() is the result — will be false For

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner
well, "return error x" gives me a syntax error, and the documentation specifies the syntax I describe, and indicates that it changed in 8.1.0, so before I do anything, why don't we clarify what we think it's supposed to be, first. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Peter TB Brett

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
On 30/06/2016 22:20, Mike Kerner wrote: in a function, In a function, return x for error does nothing - the function terminates without returning a value, and it and the result are empty. return x for value and return x do the same thing - the container assigned gets the return value gets x,

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner
FYI, the new return syntax is different than what was described. return x for error return x for value return x The behavior: with a handler, return x for error and return x do the same thing - the result gets x and it gets nothing. With return x for value, it gets x and the result gets

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Warren Samples wrote: > I can't open LiveCode on my Linux machine running the current release > of openSUSE (Leap). I can, however, run it under different release > versions of openSUSE and have it open right now in a virtual machine > running openSUSE Tumbleweed. The dictionary seems to work

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Warren Samples
On 06/30/2016 11:02 AM, Richmond wrote: Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Richmond. I understand your frustration, Richmond. I can't open LiveCode on my Linux machine running the current release of openSUSE (Leap). I can, however, run it under different release versions of

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: > Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Which distro? I've been able to use the Dictionary on 64-bit Ubuntu (14.04, 15.10, and 16.04) ever since LC v8.0rc1. @LC Ltd: good work on the Dictionary UI refinements. MUCH more usable. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Richmond
Still waiting (64-bit, Linux) for the Dictionary. Richmond. On 30.06.2016 16:00, Peter TB Brett wrote: Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this

Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Mike Kerner
As discussed on the other side, the new return syntax is return value to set "it" return error to set "the result" On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 9:00 AM, Peter TB Brett wrote: > Dear list members, > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2, a >

[ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 2

2016-06-30 Thread Peter TB Brett
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-2, a development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure that you back up your stacks before testing them. Getting the

[ANN] Release 8.1.0 DP 1

2016-05-23 Thread panagiotis merakos
Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.0-dp-1, the first development preview of LiveCode 8.1. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure that you back up your stacks before testing them. Getting

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