Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
I thought Vista could do it... And if you meant LC version 7, I can do it in LC 6.7.6 Bob S On Nov 2, 2015, at 10:41 , Roger Eller > wrote: That is a great one Jerry! Always having to move an application window around, and

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
Yeah. It's usually the other way around! ;-) Bob S On Oct 30, 2015, at 15:33 , Richard Gaskin > wrote: > Puttin' on my holy war pants... I hope they never do this. I've seen > what Windows 10 looks like on a tablet, and (to my eye)

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Bob Sneidar
My short affair with Pascal ended when I saw what it was going to take to write Pascal apps for the current Apple graphical OS. It was then I realized I would never develop in a full blown compilter based system as I simply didn't have the time. Bob S On Oct 31, 2015, at 12:40 , J. Landman

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jerry Jensen wrote: >> On Oct 30, 2015, at 15:33 , Richard Gaskin wrote: >> Geoff Canyon wrote: >>> Puttin' on my holy war pants... I hope they never do this. I've seen >>> what Windows 10 looks like on a tablet, and (to my eye) it's a >>> usability mess. >> >> When did Apple ever implement

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Roger Eller
I only tried in LC 6.6.2 and then LC 7.0.1 (the only Mac versions I have installed). The sad thing (to me) is that even in Windows, I was forced to use the little corner resize thingie, even though EVERY OTHER application had edge resizing. It wasn't until Apple adopted the feature that it was

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 11/02/2015 11:17 AM, Roger Eller wrote: I only tried in LC 6.6.2 and then LC 7.0.1 (the only Mac versions I have installed). The sad thing (to me) is that even in Windows, I was forced to use the little corner resize thingie, even though EVERY OTHER application had edge resizing. It wasn't

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > The edge resize feature didn't appear in LiveCode stacks until 7.x. Edge resizing is supported in the Cocoa APIs, and in LiveCode was part of the Cocoa-savvy overhaul that first premiered in 6.7. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > The sad thing (to me) is that even in Windows, I was forced to use the > little corner resize thingie, even though EVERY OTHER application > had edge resizing. It wasn't until Apple adopted the feature that > it was added to LC. IIRC I've been resizing LiveCode windows from

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Mark Wieder
On 11/02/2015 10:43 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Every OS vendor borrows from the others. To be more accurate I should have written: When did Apple ever implement something Microsoft does that no one likes? Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Apple got the wastebasket idea from

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Jerry Jensen
> On Nov 2, 2015, at 11:38 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > > This is kind of like arguing about whether Bootsy or Larry Graham started > popping first. How about Pops Popwell? Or was he much later? ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Roger Eller
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > It's not a LiveCode thing, it's an OS thing. Well, not completely... On my Mac running Yosemite (which supports edge resizing), I create a new stack with LC 6.6.2, and it only has the corner sizer, and the edges do

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Roger Eller
That is interesting, isn't it? I must be crazy. Read on, mweider already corrected my misguided self. Good morning, BTW. ;) On Nov 2, 2015 5:39 PM, "Monte Goulding" wrote: > > > On 3 Nov 2015, at 9:03 am, Roger Eller > wrote: > > > I only

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 3 Nov 2015, at 10:03 am, Roger Eller wrote: > > That is interesting, isn't it? I must be crazy. You might want to get that checked out ;-) > Read on, mweider already > corrected my misguided self. Good morning, BTW. ;) Good morning ;-)

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-02 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 3 Nov 2015, at 9:03 am, Roger Eller wrote: > I only tried in LC 6.6.2 and then LC 7.0.1 (the only Mac versions I have > installed). The sad thing (to me) is that even in Windows, I was forced > to > use the little corner resize thingie, even though EVERY OTHER

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-01 Thread Michael Gruenthal
Think bigger (or smaller). Your computer is in your pocket. It connects wirelessly and adapts to the display and input devices around you. Until that happens, merging OS X and iOS won’t work. They are close enough (under the hood) that there’s no real impediment to merging them now, but there

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-01 Thread J. Landman Gay
I think you may be right it's a regional thing. I checked my archives again and I have no version 4. It goes from 3 to 5. I'm looking at the official Apple developer CD that contains all historical operating systems. On November 1, 2015 8:20:18 AM CST, Colin Holgate

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-01 Thread Colin Holgate
I was hired by Apple in October 1987 because they lacked Apple II knowledge in tech support, but I would still have to answer calls not knowing what the topic was going to be. One conversation with an Apple dealer went like this: dealer: “what’s the current version of Finder?” me to dealer:

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-11-01 Thread Kaveh Bazargan
Colin, we might have run into each other in the early Apple days. I did many demos for dealers for Adobe Illustrator (v1), Mathematica (on Mac and Next), Textures (tex on Mac) and even HyperCard. On 1 November 2015 at 14:20, Colin Holgate wrote: > I was hired by Apple in

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Roger Eller
While multifinder was pausing an application to bring another application to the foreground, the Amiga computer was already doing true multi-tasking. It still makes me sad that the management of Commodore had no idea of what they were selling, and therefore could not market it properly. Even in

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Colin Holgate
Although some pages mention a system 5, there wasn’t one. Here’s a list of system releases and dates that seems correct: http://www.computerhope.com/history/macos.htm Before System 6 came out the System and Finder had different version numbers,

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Colin Holgate
Pretty sure the system version jumped from 4.3 to 6.0, though it’s possible there may have been a US only system between the two that the rest of the world received. > On Oct 31, 2015, at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > > I'm not sure that listing is correct. I

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Richmond
On 31/10/15 22:05, Colin Holgate wrote: Wikipedia is one of the places that seemed wrong. It could just be that it was packaged that way in the US, elsewhere the system release didn’t really have a number as such, because System and Finder were always different, until 6.0 was released. The

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Geoff Canyon
I didn't mean to imply that Apple's (future, potential) effort would ape Microsoft's work. I just listed MS's effort because it's a concrete example of the issues I see. The rest of your post seems to be implying that your version of a hybrid OS would largely resemble iOS, but with some

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/31/2015 11:37 AM, Colin Holgate wrote: Although some pages mention a system 5, there wasn’t one. Here’s a list of system releases and dates that seems correct: http://www.computerhope.com/history/macos.htm I'm not sure that listing is

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Colin Holgate
Wikipedia is one of the places that seemed wrong. It could just be that it was packaged that way in the US, elsewhere the system release didn’t really have a number as such, because System and Finder were always different, until 6.0 was released. The main thing is that there wasn’t a System

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Richmond
On 31/10/15 21:55, Colin Holgate wrote: Pretty sure the system version jumped from 4.3 to 6.0, though it’s possible there may have been a US only system between the two that the rest of the world received. One really doesn't have to look far to check that one:

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Richmond
On 31/10/15 22:05, Colin Holgate wrote: Wikipedia is one of the places that seemed wrong. It could just be that it was packaged that way in the US, elsewhere the system release didn’t really have a number as such, because System and Finder were always different, until 6.0 was released. The

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-31 Thread Dr. Hawkins
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > On 10/30/2015 03:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > Apple's desktop OS has always been distinguished from Microsoft's >> > > That's true. > There's a wastebasket instead of a recycle bin. > /ducking But that's MS aping

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Geoff Canyon
On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I just wish Apple would hurry up and announce the merger of OS X and > iOS > Puttin' on my holy war pants... I hope they never do this. I've seen what Windows 10 looks like on a tablet, and (to my eye) it's

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Geoff Canyon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I just wish Apple would hurry up and announce the merger of OS X and >> iOS >> > > Puttin' on my holy war pants... I hope they never do this. I've seen > what Windows 10 looks like on a tablet, and (to my eye)

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/30/2015 03:33 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Apple's desktop OS has always been distinguished from Microsoft's That's true. There's a wastebasket instead of a recycle bin. /ducking -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Peter M. Brigham
+1. No, +2. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Oct 30, 2015, at 2:10 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2015 at 1:07 AM, Richard Gaskin > wrote: > >> I just wish Apple would hurry up and announce the merger of OS

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
EEEK! I just saw my digital life flash before my eyes! Bob S On Oct 29, 2015, at 22:21 , Mark Wieder > wrote: I just wish Apple would hurry up and announce the merger of OS X and iOS ___

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Bob Sneidar
A correction. Like we had to for such nonsense as salt causes high blood pressure, or cholesterol is bad for you. It all makes sense... until someone actually does the science or research. But really, that paragraph about people not doing the research is a bit too much. You can't expect

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-30 Thread Martin Koob
Would iOS merged with OS X become OS XI? Maybe Apple System Eleven would have completely voice UI. What could go wrong? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FFRoYhTJQQ Martin -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Chromebook-deployment

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/29/2015 07:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: coming to the Android pane of the LC Standalone Builder in 2017: Google is merging Chrome OS and Android ...Chrome is essentially being folded into Android, because Android has emerged as the dominant operating system by quite a

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Wieder wrote: On 10/29/2015 07:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: coming to the Android pane of the LC Standalone Builder in 2017: Google is merging Chrome OS and Android ...Chrome is essentially being folded into Android, because Android has emerged as the dominant operating

Re: Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-29 Thread Mark Wieder
On 10/29/2015 10:07 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: It's good news for us. Chromebooks were out of reach for LiveCoders, except for maybe with the HTML5 option when it's shipping. But now with this we'll be able to make native apps for all Android device types from phones to tablets to laptops.

Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-29 Thread Alejandro Tejada
I have mixed feelings about this news... An opportunity or a problem? http://workplacepsychology.net/2014/08/10/in-chinese-crisis-does-not-mean-danger-and-opportunity/ Al ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

Chromebook deployment...

2015-10-29 Thread Richard Gaskin
coming to the Android pane of the LC Standalone Builder in 2017: Google is merging Chrome OS and Android ...Chrome is essentially being folded into Android, because Android has emerged as the dominant operating system by quite a long stretch. Combining the two operating systems