Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-06 Thread Kevin Miller
If you need something more on Android and want to write it we would be more than happy to support you doing that in LCB. Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps On 05/05/2016, 19:20, "use-livecode on behalf of Todd Fabacher"

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Roger Eller
Nice! Works with DropBox URLs too!!! https://docs.google.com/gview?embedded=true=https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54789013/Elio_Bucks.pdf On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Kevin Miller wrote: > > > On Android there is an extra step: > > >

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread John Burtt
I have been using it for my help files for several years now. I use Screensteps to build my help files and export them as PDF files. I have the PDF files on my server. When the user clicks the “Help” button, they are downloaded to a separate livecode browser window. Works well on Mac and

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kevin Miller wrote: > Almost right. We were aiming for complete parity for the heavier > weight browser renderer in the widget to provide perfect cross > platform compatibility and for exactly these sorts of reasons but > it wasn't possible due to some platform specific issues we found >

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Todd Fabacher
Actually Kevin, sorry but... users need to be aware about Android. The statement "Bear in mind however that basic display is already possible with the browser included in all editions of LC." is not 100% accurate. A PDF does NOT display within the web browser in Android. We ended up having to use

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Kevin Miller
Almost right. We were aiming for complete parity for the heavier weight browser renderer in the widget to provide perfect cross platform compatibility and for exactly these sorts of reasons but it wasn't possible due to some platform specific issues we found integrating the framework. However PDF

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> It never would have occurred to me that a browser engine would also >> include its own embedded PDF renderer, separate from any that might >> be included in the OS (and IIRC Windows doesn't include one out of >> the

RE: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Jim MacConnell
t: Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition) Kevin Miller wrote: > ...basic display is already possible with the > browser included in all editions of LC. That's kind of a big deal. I'm not sure how so many of us missed that, but basic display on a card is

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Roger Eller
Android is still in need of an in-stack PDF display feature. The default behavior is to pass it to a user-installed PDF viewer app. ~Roger On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Kevin Miller wrote: > > > On 05/05/2016, 16:10, Richard Gaskin

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kevin Miller wrote: > On 05/05/2016, 16:10, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >>Kevin Miller wrote: >> >> > ...basic display is already possible with the >> > browser included in all editions of LC. >> >> That's kind of a big deal. I'm not sure how so many of us missed >> that, but basic display on a card

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Kevin Miller
I am, and have been for some time as it happens! Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@livecode.com ~ http://www.livecode.com/ LiveCode: Everyone can create apps On 05/05/2016, 16:10, "use-livecode on behalf of Richard Gaskin"

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Gaskin
Kevin Miller wrote: > ...basic display is already possible with the > browser included in all editions of LC. That's kind of a big deal. I'm not sure how so many of us missed that, but basic display on a card is all most people have been asking for. Super cool. Anyone here using that?

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-05 Thread Kevin Miller
I think its worth a quick chime in here. The total development costs for XPDF ran into the tens of thousands of dollars. Our acquisition/trade cost for them was not cheap either. It is unlikely we could recoup that investment or invest in them further (as we plan to do) selling these as low cost

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
That will help tremendously! Thank you, Monty JB 1 > On May 4, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > BTW I have a some Xcode templates that can help make things easier available > at https://github.com/montegoulding/livecode-external-templates > >> On 5 May 2016, at

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
BTW I have a some Xcode templates that can help make things easier available at https://github.com/montegoulding/livecode-external-templates > On 5 May 2016, at 9:25 AM, JB wrote: > > Thanks Monty. > I will give it a try. > > JB > > >> On May 4, 2016, at 4:09 PM,

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
Thanks Monty. I will give it a try. JB > On May 4, 2016, at 4:09 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 5 May 2016, at 8:39 AM, JB wrote: >> >> I am trying to compile a external using xCode 7. Is it possible in anyway to >> make that external work or

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
Thank you, I won’t use XPDF for older versions. That is good to know. q JB > On May 4, 2016, at 4:04 PM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > On 5/4/2016 6:39 PM, JB wrote: >> I am trying to compile a external using xCode 7. Is it possible in anyway to >> make that external work

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
Do you know of a good emulator that will work or is it possible to make it work by compiling from the commond line tools or another way? thank you, JB > On May 4, 2016, at 3:21 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > A patch for what precisely? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On 5 May

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 5 May 2016, at 8:39 AM, JB wrote: > > I am trying to compile a external using xCode 7. Is it possible in anyway to > make that external work or a way to use any version of Xcode on El Capitan > and make the external work? Yes > Do you compile externals on a Mac

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 5/4/2016 6:39 PM, JB wrote: > I am trying to compile a external using xCode 7. Is it possible in anyway to > make that external work or a way to use any version of Xcode on El Capitan > and make the external work? Do you compile externals on a Mac with new > OS X systems like El Capitan and

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
I am trying to compile a external using xCode 7. Is it possible in anyway to make that external work or a way to use any version of Xcode on El Capitan and make the external work? Do you compile externals on a Mac with new OS X systems like El Capitan and if you do what are you doing to make it

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
A patch for what precisely? Sent from my iPhone > On 5 May 2016, at 8:12 AM, JB wrote: > > What I am trying to do is compile a external > for Revolution. Is there a way to compile a > external for Revolution on Mac that is using > El Capitan? A patch or anything to make

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
What I am trying to do is compile a external for Revolution. Is there a way to compile a external for Revolution on Mac that is using El Capitan? A patch or anything to make it work? JB > On May 4, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: > > >> On 5 May 2016, at 7:23 AM,

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
> On 5 May 2016, at 7:23 AM, JB wrote: > > Anyone know how to make xCode 7 externals work > with Revolution? The latest version of xCode it will > take is 2.4 and I do not have that on my current Mac. > Or is there a way to install the older version on a mac > with El

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
Anyone know how to make xCode 7 externals work with Revolution? The latest version of xCode it will take is 2.4 and I do not have that on my current Mac. Or is there a way to install the older version on a mac with El Capitan? JB > On May 4, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Paul Dupuis

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
That sounds like exactly what I need. Thank you! JB > On May 4, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > On 5/4/2016 4:12 PM, JB wrote: >> A number of years ago I installed a external >> using Trevor’s info but this is good too. >> proper code to access the embeded

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 5/4/2016 4:12 PM, JB wrote: > A number of years ago I installed a external > using Trevor’s info but this is good too. > proper code to access the embeded binary; > I downloaded some info from Apple on how > to install binaries but if I do install them right > I need to know how to call them.

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
A number of years ago I installed a external using Trevor’s info but this is good too. proper code to access the embeded binary; I downloaded some info from Apple on how to install binaries but if I do install them right I need to know how to call them. If I figure how to call a few of the

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
Thank you. JB > On May 4, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Paul Dupuis wrote: > > On 5/4/2016 3:38 PM, JB wrote: >> I just downloaded the mac version of >> XPDF as binaries. It looks like they >> would be easier to install than code >> files but I have never embedded any >> binaries

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 5/4/2016 3:38 PM, JB wrote: > I just downloaded the mac version of > XPDF as binaries. It looks like they > would be easier to install than code > files but I have never embedded any > binaries before and do not know the > correct method to call them. It would > be nice to make at least a

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
I just downloaded the mac version of XPDF as binaries. It looks like they would be easier to install than code files but I have never embedded any binaries before and do not know the correct method to call them. It would be nice to make at least a basic pdf reader external and then it can be

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Robert Mann
>> That lengthy thread explored possible ways to attempt to circumvent LiveCode Community's downstream GPL requirements. That exploration was an attempt to understand and clarify some tricky issues in the new FOSS licensing situation. Some members who participated to that effort of

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Robert Mann wrote: > In a former, not so old, enormous thread dealing with the FOSS > license and trying to understand what it meant in practice, one > of the conclusion was that *only Livecode can dual license*. > Nobody else can do that. And Kevin Miller really pushed hard on > that point.

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Mark Wilcox
> In a former, not so old, enormous thread dealing with the FOSS license > and > trying to understand what it meant in practice, one of the conclusion was > that *only Livecode can dual license*. Nobody else can do that. And Kevin > Miller really pushed hard on that point. Only Livecode can dual

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread RM
I don't quite know where you got that idea from. I would be very much surprised if Kevin Miller had actually stated that; it might be that you concluded that on the basis of something he said; which is not the same thing at all. I would be extremely interested if you could post a link to

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Robert Mann
Just a precision though : In a former, not so old, enormous thread dealing with the FOSS license and trying to understand what it meant in practice, one of the conclusion was that *only Livecode can dual license*. Nobody else can do that. And Kevin Miller really pushed hard on that point.

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Dupuis
On 5/4/2016 12:13 PM, RM wrote: > I would suppose the ideal thing would be both something that allows > one to render a PDF document, > and extract all or part of an embedded text layer (if one exists in > the original PDF). The XPDF external from LiveCode for OSX and Win is based on Google's

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread JB
What about the code Money has from Adobe? Can that be put in a external? It would be nice to start adding externals and something like that as open source might be the thing to show people how to write externals. I know a little Xcode, C and objective-C and am willing to learn by helping but a

Re: Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread RM
I would suppose the ideal thing would be both something that allows one to render a PDF document, and extract all or part of an embedded text layer (if one exists in the original PDF). Richmond. On 4.05.2016 17:22, Richard Gaskin wrote: Tim Bleiler wrote: > The Livecode PDF viewer is an

Community PDF Project (was Revenue and the Open Source edition)

2016-05-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tim Bleiler wrote: > The Livecode PDF viewer is an example of something that might do > well as a separate option. It might. It would be helpful if more folks read the specs for the PDF external LiveCode is including with their Business Edition. It's very specialized, with extensive