Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Charles Szasz
Chipp, I agree with you about the end of an era. Steve Jobs was truly an extraordinary visionary. We will not see another one like him in our life time. I hope that his health improves and that he able to enjoy life more. But I strongly suspect that he will miss working at Apple as it's CEO

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Colin Holgate
Steve's was fired for being too nuts, and came back because the management didn't get it. Older Steve was perhaps less nuts than younger Steve, and the company became the most valuable company in the world. But that was under Tim Cook's watch. Hopefully Wall Street will pay attention to that, an

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 8/24/11 7:26 PM, Charles Szasz wrote: I hope that his health improves and that he able to enjoy life more. I don't think that will happen. I watched a friend die of exactly what Jobs has. Given how passionately Jobs loved Apple, I suspect he hung on as long as he possibly could. If he's in

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Judy Perry
I hope that he will be able to spend some quality time with his loved ones and friends. Judy On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't think that will happen. I watched a friend die of exactly what Jobs has. Given how passionately Jobs loved Apple, I suspect he hung on as long as he

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Colin Holgate
What's of interest, and disturbing it its own way, is that the head of the highest value company on earth can still die of something. At least it's good knowing that becoming enormously rich won't save you. On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:36 AM, Judy Perry wrote: > I hope that he will be able to spend

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
So would you say that one of the reasons I'm almost 80 is because I'm so damned poor? (smile) Or do I just need to have more time to learn more lessons? (sigh!) More likely because I don't have to worry about others taking what I don't have. Not homeless (yet) but could happen any day now if thi

RE: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I agree with you about the end of an era. Steve Jobs was > truly an extraordinary visionary. We will not see another > one like him in our life time. I hope that his health > improves and that he able to enjoy life more. But I strongly > suspect that he will miss working at Apple as it's

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Vlahos
I agree. I think the following link opens a pretty good summary of how our world has changed as a result of Steve. http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/steve_jobs_a_revolution_every_other_year/ I wish him all the best and offer a big thank you. Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread dunbarx
Wasn't it a guy named Steve that axed Hypercard? -Original Message- From: Judy Perry To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:38 pm Subject: Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs I hope that he will be able to spend some quality time with his loved ones and friends. Jud

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
Well not me exactly, but I did predict they were not going down, even though all my friends and acquaintances thought I was an imbecile for believing. I too am saddened, mainly because I believe that Steve really loved his job, and was doing the thing he loved. If all Americans loved their work

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Bob Sneidar
24, 2011 8:38 pm > Subject: Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs > > > I hope that he will be able to spend some quality time with his loved ones > and friends. > > Judy > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> I don't think that will happen. I wa

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le 25 août 2011 à 17:40, Bob Sneidar a écrit : > If all Americans loved their work the way he did, we would be unparalleled > in the quality of products we produced. > > Bob -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com ___ u

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread stephen barncard
That was the OLD Steve. The new Steve came back in the late 90s with the iMac and iPod, brought in the NEXT guys - and it's been up ever since. On 25 August 2011 08:29, wrote: > Wasn't it a guy named Steve that axed Hypercard? > > > Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Colin Holgate
Steve returned in 1996, and cancelled HyperCard in 2000. So it was New Steve that dropped HyperCard. On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:27 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > That was the OLD Steve. The new Steve came back in the late 90s with the > iMac and iPod, brought in the NEXT guys - and it's been up ever

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Roger Eller
On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 12:27 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > That was the OLD Steve. The new Steve came back in the late 90s with the > iMac and iPod, brought in the NEXT guys - and it's been up ever since. > > On 25 August 2011 08:29, wrote: > > > Wasn't it a guy named Steve that axed Hypercard?

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Richmond
From: Judy Perry To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:38 pm Subject: Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs I hope that he will be able to spend some quality time with his loved ones and friends. Judy On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, J. Landman Gay wrote: I don't think that will happen. I watched

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Michael D Mays
I wouldn't sell yet. Steve has 'died' and has been 'dying' for some time and people have adjusted so to speak. Hopefully nothing has taken a turn for the worse. The company is in a much better position now then it was when he left the first time and then the stock rose 6-10X over the followin

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Peter M. Brigham, MD
On Aug 25, 2011, at 12:24 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 8/24/11 7:26 PM, Charles Szasz wrote: >> I hope that his health improves and that he able to enjoy >> life more. > > I don't think that will happen. I watched a friend die of exactly what Jobs > has. Given how passionately Jobs loved Apple

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Thursday, August 25, 2011, 8:40:20 AM, you wrote: > If all Americans loved their work the way he did, we would be > unparalleled in the quality of products we produced. ...and with that in mind... https://plus.google.com/107117483540235115863/posts/gcSStkKxXTw -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@a

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread Kevin Miller
My take on this subject: http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/ Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller ~ ke...@runrev.com ~ http://www.runrev.com/ LiveCode: Compile-free coding, the faster path to better apps ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liveco

RE: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> My take on this subject: > > http://www.runrev.com/company/runrev-blog/ Once he met Neil Roger I knew it was all over for Steve :-) Very thoughtful response, Kevin. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, R

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
Nicely done! I forwarded it to all the geeks here. Some are getting the message, especially when in a short period of time I got a very needed app here half done in a few weeks of working on it in my spare time. Bob On Aug 26, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > My take on this subject:

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread Jeff Reynolds
sorry i have no blog so ill present my thoughts here to the list... This is an unending discussion with my design partner about the current state of design. Gene worked in the Eames office when very young and was able to see the magic that someone that has that attention to detail and the a

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread Bob Sneidar
I don't think it has anything to do with monkeys. The monkey brain is also wired to fling poo. Monkeys will want to touch and feel an iPhone, but the monkey will then want to use it as a hammer to crack open a nut or scare off the rival monkeys... ... ... Okay, maybe it IS about monkeys after al

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread François Chaplais
maybe i has more to do with cats... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9NP-AeKX40 François Le 26 août 2011 à 21:27, Bob Sneidar a écrit : > I don't think it has anything to do with monkeys. The monkey brain is also > wired to fling poo. Monkeys will want to touch and feel an iPhone, but the > monke

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-26 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Jeff, see below... On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Jeff Reynolds wrote: > I agree with Kevin, luck is a part of it, but Jobs was able to create his > own luck by both sheer will and also knowing the true basics of design as > the points to start from applying that fantastic will. > BINGO. Wh

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Jeff Reynolds
bob, folks usually react when i use the term monkey brain. i really use it to describe the most deep seated parts of what makes us human from our evolutionary past. a lot of it are those things we innately react to. I think the true art spirit is one of those things and good design really

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Richmond
On 08/26/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Nicely done! I forwarded it to all the geeks here. Some are getting the message, especially when in a short period of time I got a very needed app here half done in a few weeks of working on it in my spare time. Bob So, next time we get cheesed-off

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Pierre Sahores
"Chacun de nous est un essai de la nature dont le but est l'homme." - Hermann Hesse - If ideal solutions were within our reach, we would't give us all the evil that we give us to try to do the best we can, as far as we can, wherever we can and within what we can. What people show us about their

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: So, next time we get cheesed-off by an apparently random or capricious act on the half of Kevin Miller we can sublimate our frustration by softly repeating to ourselves "he's just emulating Steve jobs' way of doing things" . . . :) FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE RunRev Ltd. Introduc

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Roger Eller
On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Richmond wrote: > > So, next time we get cheesed-off by an apparently random or capricious >> act on the half of Kevin Miller >> we can sublimate our frustration by softly repeating to ourselves "he's >> just emulating Steve jobs' way >>

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Richmond
On 08/27/2011 05:25 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Richmond wrote: So, next time we get cheesed-off by an apparently random or capricious act on the half of Kevin Miller we can sublimate our frustration by softly repeating to ourselves "he's just emulating Steve jobs' way of doing things" . . . :)

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Jeff Reynolds
Richard, you are scaring me, you wrote that way to well and to fast! you have a hidden obfuscation (PR) talent there!! good stuff, good stuff! cheers jeff On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:00 PM, use-livecode-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: OR IMMEDIATE RELEASE RunRev Ltd. Introduces Royalties

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Well, this photo is scary too... to say the least. :-( STEVE JOBS After the Resignation http://www.tmz.com/2011/08/26/steve-jobs-apple-photo-resignation-ceo-sick/ -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/End-of-an-Era-Steve-Jobs-tp3766995p3773519.html Sent

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
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Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Colin Holgate
I don't know if he is the poster boy for the vegan lifestyle. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinf

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-27 Thread Chipp Walters
On Saturday, August 27, 2011, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Long-time LiveCode developer and ardent fanboy Chipp Walters said, "This is a tremendous move forward for LiveCode. Kevin Miller's a true visionary, and if he says I don't need choice then that's more than good enough for me. I'm thrilled at t

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-29 Thread Kevin Miller
I have to say I split my sides laughing at that joke PR! Roger I don't think you have much to worry about in terms of company direction. I have my own management style, and while it is doubtless inspired by many, is certainly not modeled on anyone. That blog post wasn't about a shift in company po

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-29 Thread Roger Eller
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > I have to say I split my sides laughing at that joke PR! > > Roger I don't think you have much to worry about in terms of company > direction. I have my own management style, and while it is doubtless > inspired by many, is certainly not model

Re: End of an Era: Steve Jobs

2011-08-29 Thread Bob Sneidar
I was actually responding to the post AFTER the one you are talking about. I didn't read down far enough. DOH! Bob On Aug 27, 2011, at 1:59 AM, Richmond wrote: > On 08/26/2011 07:44 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> Nicely done! I forwarded it to all the geeks here. Some are getting the >> message, e