Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Richmond wrote: On 22.09.2015 22:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: Heck, on Windows I'd be thrilled if LC could just not underline menu mnemonic characters until the Alt key is down. I haven't seen any other software work like LC since maybe Win95, WQow! That's a fairly sweeping statement. I

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-22 Thread Richmond
On 22.09.2015 22:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: Brahmanathaswami wrote: MS Word's new model for switching tool sets at the top of the window is pretty powerful.. Something like that for LC would be awesome. Heck, on Windows I'd be thrilled if LC could just not underline menu mnemonic characters

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Brahmanathaswami wrote: MS Word's new model for switching tool sets at the top of the window is pretty powerful.. Something like that for LC would be awesome. Heck, on Windows I'd be thrilled if LC could just not underline menu mnemonic characters until the Alt key is down. I haven't seen

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Roger Eller wrote: > On 22.09.2015 22:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >> Heck, on Windows I'd be thrilled if LC could just not underline menu >> mnemonic characters until the Alt key is down. I haven't seen any >> other software work like LC since maybe Win95, > > I use LC every day on Windows,

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-22 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Roger Eller wrote: > > > On 22.09.2015 22:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> > >> Heck, on Windows I'd be thrilled if LC could just not underline menu > >> mnemonic characters until the Alt key is down. I haven't

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-22 Thread Roger Eller
On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Richmond wrote: > > On 22.09.2015 22:46, Richard Gaskin wrote: >> >>> >>> Heck, on Windows I'd be thrilled if LC could just not underline menu >>> mnemonic characters until the Alt key is down. I haven't seen

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-21 Thread Brahmanathaswami
Yes, LC is a general construction tool kit, that said... *everything* you do in LC other than server side scripting occurs in a visual space... sure pure text code apps are possible (think PHP or Ruby) and all this LC builder, widget, text only stacks Git hub is exciting but the legacy

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-21 Thread Brahmanathaswami
We appreciate everyone pointing out the plugins made some of these features, but i was trying to make a point: if someone opens LC for the first time... she won't be knowing anything about plug-ins for what she considers "standard layout engine" features.. FYI, we are abandoning Google apps

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-21 Thread Roland Huettmann
Dear Mark, dear Brahmanathaswami, dear all Thank you very much for your comments. They stir more thinking... ) But if LC is not a graphics tool, not a database tool, not a network tool, what is it then? Is it a front-end tool to develop rich interface for various operating systems? How well

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
At least some of the things you mention are already there, but are easy to miss. On 9/21/2015 1:57 AM, Brahmanathaswami wrote: -- still futzing with getting the label of a button to center See the new "iconGravity" property. -- Oh... ouch, the color picker is giving me wrong RGB values

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-21 Thread BNig
> -- Oh where can I set the design grid unit values? Oh, no grids? > -- where is my hide and show design grid? Oh right.. no grids... > -- Oh, where do I turn on "snap to grid" Oops right... no grid... but > this is 2015! In addition to what Jaque said (that you can set it via preferencese

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-21 Thread Bob Sneidar
Someone wrote a plugin to address this. Bob S On Sep 21, 2015, at 10:41 , J. Landman Gay > wrote: -- Oh where can I set the design grid unit values? Oh, no grids? > -- where is my hide and show design grid? Oh right.. no grids... > --

RE: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-20 Thread Ralph DiMola
+1 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder Sent: Friday, September 18, 2015 9:20 PM To: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: LiveCode

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Roland- A few thoughts without in any way trying to detract or distract from your wonderful post: FileMaker and LiveCode are different products aimed at different audiences. FileMaker is essentially a one-trick pony: it does an excellent job at providing an easy-to-use front end for

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-19 Thread FlexibleLearning.com
> On 9/19/15, 1:59, R.H. wrote: > > Why not there is a field that can easily be set to display > > international date and time formats and automatically would default to > > local standards without having to script a lot and redoing the same > > work over and over again? Why not a field can be

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-19 Thread tfabacher
Thanks Roland for the email. What you have described was exactly what Visual Basic programmers were saying in the early 90s. The solution to the VB problem was the ability to create COM objects. What you described as your primary frustrations will evaporate with LC8. You will be able to

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Peter Haworth
I guess I'm going to have to find time to get SQLMagic finished ( http://www.lcsql.com/sqlmagic.html). Been distracted with other projects for a while. On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:02 PM Tim Selander wrote: > Roland, > > Amen, preach it brother! > > Filemaker with xTalk

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tim Selander wrote: Filemaker with xTalk replacing FM's miserable "scripting." I have been looking for that product, to no avail, since the demise of HyperCard. Some of that excellent post is even bigger than making a FileMaker clone: I can think of few things that would deliver a higher ROI

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Mark Wieder
On 09/18/2015 04:40 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I guess I'm going to have to find time to get SQLMagic finished ( http://www.lcsql.com/sqlmagic.html). Yes, please. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: LiveCode for the rest of us

2015-09-18 Thread Tim Selander
Roland, Amen, preach it brother! Filemaker with xTalk replacing FM's miserable "scripting." I have been looking for that product, to no avail, since the demise of HyperCard. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 9/19/15, 1:59, R.H. wrote: Following the really interesting discussions on this list