Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-17 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Have a look at the CompileIt! manual again. That was 1990. There was no special intermediate language to get toolbox rom or native library calls. LC's choice to engineer LCB the way it did was a choice. It obviously makes it less approachable to the customer. Maybe it makes it easier for the team.

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-17 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 17/09/2022 08:54, Jacques Clavel via use-livecode wrote: point 6. maybe potential for future performance gains : - But today LCB is surprisingly less efficient (/3) than LCS (???) Yes, at first glance it is surprising; typed variables etc. *should* make it possible to be more efficient.

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-17 Thread Jacques Clavel via use-livecode
point 6. maybe potential for future performance gains : - But today LCB is surprisingly less efficient (/3) than LCS (???) JC Le sam. 17 sept. 2022 à 01:35, Alex Tweedly via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> a écrit : > > On 15/09/2022 16:37, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > >

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-16 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 15/09/2022 16:37, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: Docs aside... I still think that widgets and lcb is one of best additions to LC. Community collaboration like this will make for better documentation and more new/improved widgets. A robust library of widgets can only help LC to

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-16 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
By the way, we updated it, again, this morning, because, we're like little kids now that we're starting to crack the code on this thing. It's nothing too exciting, today, but it's better than it was, yesterday, including fixing the copyright header - which was my error. Here's what happened on the

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-16 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Sorry, I confused things by using the word "outdated". I wasn't referring to the date in the copyright statement, but to the fact that it says "Livecode is free software [...  GPL]", and "this file is part of Livecode", and implications that may have on the license situation for the widget and

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-15 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Legally the only date that matters is the date of creation. Almost everyone adds the current date as well, and I keep trying to talk my clients out of it but they won't listen. Then I have to keep updating the copyright string, knowing it doesn't matter, but if I don't the app looks old and

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-15 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
On 15/09/2022 15:44, Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: What's NavRAD? It's a better version of LiveCode's NavBar widget. Why "RAD"? Cos Ralph A DiMola said so, since he added the first two nifty updates to it: I see the code has an outdated copyright statement, which would (I think)

RE: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-15 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
Docs aside... I still think that widgets and lcb is one of best additions to LC. Community collaboration like this will make for better documentation and more new/improved widgets. A robust library of widgets can only help LC to penetrate the market. If only we had these when I started... Shout

RE: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-15 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
5, 2022 10:45 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mike Kerner Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual What's NavRAD? It's a better version of LiveCode's NavBar widget. Why "RAD"? Cos Ralph A DiMola said so, since he added the first two nifty updates to it: * an autoHilite boolean, so you

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
What's NavRAD? It's a better version of LiveCode's NavBar widget. Why "RAD"? Cos Ralph A DiMola said so, since he added the first two nifty updates to it: * an autoHilite boolean, so you can intercept clicks before the selected icon changes instead of after, and * icon zoom Now it's also got

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf > Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 12:03 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Mike Kerner > Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual > > Update: > * Put it on github becau

RE: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-10 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 12:03 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mike Kerner Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual Update: * Put it on github because I'm starting to tweak it, too (on the develop branch - Ralph's original

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-10 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Update: * Put it on github because I'm starting to tweak it, too (on the develop branch - Ralph's original version is on the Deploy branch) * Made several properties invisible in the Properties Inspector * on to the next item on the list On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 4:54 PM Mike Kerner wrote: >

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Thanks for the help, guys. What about this list for a next-up wishlist?: * I think some of the properties in the PI are extraneous: "selected item name", "pre Hilited item", "pre hilited name", so remove them from the PI * Add borders/margins or offsets, because on mobile, there is furniture,

RE: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
via use-livecode Sent: Friday, September 09, 2022 1:47 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Matthias Rebbe Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual If you would extract the .lce file, then you could copy the extracted folder to the extension folder. Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 09.09.2022 um

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
runrev.com] On >> Behalf Of Brian Milby via use-livecode >> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2022 9:54 AM >> To: How to use LiveCode >> Cc: Brian Milby >> Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual >> >> You have to use the IDE to install widgets. >> T

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
: Friday, September 09, 2022 9:54 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Brian Milby Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual You have to use the IDE to install widgets. Tools… Extension Manager… + (icon, top right) Brian Milby br...@milby7.com > On Sep 9, 2022, at 9:40 AM, Mike Kerner via use-l

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
rev.com] On > Behalf Of Brian Milby via use-livecode > Sent: Friday, September 09, 2022 9:54 AM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Brian Milby > Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual > > You have to use the IDE to install widgets. > Tools… Extension Manager… + (icon, to

RE: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
ginal Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Brian Milby via use-livecode Sent: Friday, September 09, 2022 9:54 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Brian Milby Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual You have to use the IDE to install widgets. Too

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
owns. I am trying to find a way to resize it to the card >>> width with a user setting for height percent of card width. But the docs >>> are so scant and confusing I feel the giant headache coming on again. >>>> >>>> >>>> Ralph DiMola >>>> IT

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-09 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ght percent of card width. But the docs >> are so scant and confusing I feel the giant headache coming on again. >> > >> > >> > Ralph DiMola >> > IT Director >> > Evergreen Information Services >> > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net >> > &

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ssage- > > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 3:00 PM > > To: How to use LiveCode > > Cc: Mike Kerner > > Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manua

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-06 Thread Brian Milby via use-livecode
de-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2022 3:00 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Mike Kerner > Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual > > Ralph, > got the source, somewhere? i'd like to le

RE: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-06 Thread Ralph DiMola via use-livecode
use LiveCode Cc: Mike Kerner Subject: Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual Ralph, got the source, somewhere? i'd like to learn from it. testing to begin...now. On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I took a major stab at

Re: NAVRAD was: lcb missing manual

2022-09-06 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Ralph, got the source, somewhere? i'd like to learn from it. testing to begin...now. On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 1:32 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I took a major stab at LCB and created a new widget based on the navbar > widget. I have made 2 changes to