Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
As well as changing your password, which I think should be done as a matter of course, I would suggest also changing your onrev contact email if you can. Ideally it should be a new one only used as contact email for that account and maybe redirected to a real mailbox. This is because there is

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread René Micout
Le 12 juil. 2011 à 11:05, Martin Baxter a écrit : The weakest link is in-between the chair and the keyboard and, unfortunately, cannot easily be upgraded or patched. ;-) No, but, (un)fortunately it is initialized from time to time... ;-) or :-( Bon souvenir de Paris René

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Arie van der Ent
Ik ben helemaal gerustgesteld. Fijne vakantie. Arie Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op 12 jul. 2011 om 17:19 heeft Peter Brigham MD pmb...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On Jul 11, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote:

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I did too, but I got the message. Thankfully, all the info I have there is in an SQL database with bogus information. The best counter intel is bad. :-) Bob On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:03 AM, Michael Kann wrote: Mike, You make a good point. I bought the lifetime membership so perhaps my info is

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and file servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, but does not contain information that can hurt me. I have a third set

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Bob Sneidar
I tried to upgrade me once. I crashed. Had to flash the bios to the original firmware. It hurt. Bob On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: The weakest link is in-between the chair and the keyboard and, unfortunately, cannot easily be upgraded or patched. ;-) Martin Baxter

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread René Micout
Le 12 juil. 2011 à 19:58, Bob Sneidar a écrit : For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and file servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, but does not

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Keith Clarke
Whilst we're sharing tips, I've been using 1Password from http://agilebits.com/ across my Macs and iPhone devices for a few years, recently adding their PC version for my Parallels virtual PCs (no Linux, except web servers). All my passwords are unique - I use 1Password's inbuilt generator and

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-12 Thread Alex Tweedly
On 12/07/2011 18:58, Bob Sneidar wrote: For the record, I have a password philosophy that has served me well. I have one set of credentials I use for local logons, like computer accounts and file servers. I have a second set for anything that accesses the internet, but does not contain

Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Gregory Lypny
Hello everyone, Have any of you received this message from Heather? Implications? Gregory Dear Gregory Lypny, I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on our customer database. Although we caught this very quickly I regret that some information may have been

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Rombauts
I did too... Le 11 juil. 2011 à 15:34, Gregory Lypny a écrit : Hello everyone, Have any of you received this message from Heather? Implications? Gregory Dear Gregory Lypny, ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread René Micout
Yes, I changed my password... in case... Le 11 juil. 2011 à 15:34, Gregory Lypny a écrit : Hello everyone, Have any of you received this message from Heather? Implications? Gregory Dear Gregory Lypny, I need to inform you that over the weekend we experienced an attack on our

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Kerner
Not yet I haven't, which is curious to me. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good.

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Kann
Mike, Not everyone's data got hacked. Mike --- On Mon, 7/11/11, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com wrote: From: Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked? To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:08 AM Not yet

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Mike Kerner
So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike? Think about it. It doesn't make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records compromised but others do not? -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Michael Kann
...@roadrunner.com Subject: Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked? To: How to use LiveCode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 9:44 AM So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike?  Think about it.  It doesn't make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 07/11/2011 05:44 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike? Think about it. It doesn't make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records compromised but others do not? I wonder if RunRev don't have 2 databases (say, an older one with

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Nonsanity
I think it's more likely that someone found a way to query user information from the database, and started doing so, probably with some automation. The culprit was noticed by the unusual activity before they hit on every record in the DB. It's highly unlikely that someone managed to just download

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:44 AM, Mike Kerner mikeker...@roadrunner.comwrote: So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike? Think about it. It doesn't make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records compromised but others do not? The original poster did not

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Jeff Massung
I would just like to say that I haven't been an On-Rev customer for over a year now, and I want to thank the Rev team for still including me in this email (so, yes, I got one, too). Jeff M. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Jim Ault
and now my password is 127.5 characters long... OK, I am not that paranoid, but I did make a change for On-Rev (and the On-Rev forums just in case, even though it is a separate entity. No need to have spam hit that server require the moderators to do extra work.) Jim Ault Las Vegas On Jul

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Michael Kann wrote: I was more concerned that any data was obtainable from the outside at all. A concern, but not a surprise, given the range of software components that comprise modern web apps. I think it speaks well of the RunRev that passwords weren't compromised. Oddly enough I was

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/11/11 9:44 AM, Mike Kerner wrote: So that doesn't strike you as curious, Mike? Think about it. It doesn't make you wonder what the structure is if some customers have their records compromised but others do not? It may be significant that not all accounts are on the same server. --

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Marian Petrides
I am an On-Rev lifetime subscriber but don't recall getting this message. So it must be something else, I guess. On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: I have received it. It's probably legit. I don't see any links to a site to authenticate, so what would anyone gain by telling

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
I feel deprived, unloved and generally rejected because I didn't receive the Hacked e-mail. Har, har, har. Bl**dy glad I didn't get it; but reading this thread it does have a feling of bruised egos who weere not included. Now I remember a lecture on that psychological phemenon at Durham

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
Folks, I am speculating here but if the attacker just go some of the accounts then it is possible that the attacker hacked into some of the on-rev servers but not all of them, then, just the users on those machines were compromissed. I did not change my password, I am still deciding if I will do

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Marian Petrides
Not bruised egos, Richmond--at least not in my case. Simply concern about whether I was one of the intended recipients of the email but did not receive it for sometime. I would rather NOT change my password but will if I have to. On Jul 11, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 07/11/2011 08:13 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Not bruised egos, Richmond--at least not in my case. Simply concern about whether I was one of the intended recipients of the email but did not receive it for sometime. I would rather NOT change my password but will if I have to. I wonder what

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 7/11/11 12:13 PM, Marian Petrides wrote: Not bruised egos, Richmond--at least not in my case. Simply concern about whether I was one of the intended recipients of the email but did not receive it for sometime. I would rather NOT change my password but will if I have to. The info was sent

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Jerry J
On Jul 11, 2011, at 10:31 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: The info was sent out about 11 AM UK time. I think if you haven't received it by now, you were not affected. Passwords were not obtained, so if the affected people are using good passwords, I don't see any reason to change them. I'm not

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
An useful link to check our n-tier stuffs against those 25 rules ! Thanks Richard. Pierre Le 11 juil. 2011 à 17:48, Richard Gaskin a écrit : Michael Kann wrote: I was more concerned that any data was obtainable from the outside at all. A concern, but not a surprise, given the range

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread SparkOut
by dictionary/brute force, should the hacker try in the future to use the list of usernames to find a weak nut to crack. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rev-Customer-Databased-Hacked-tp3659552p3660677.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
haven't thought about brute force attacks -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rev-Customer-Databased-Hacked-tp3659552p3660677.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Fwd: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels are always more trusty than only letters + numbers ;-) Best, Pierre Début

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Pierre Sahores psaho...@free.fr wrote: I changed all mine, even if they went in theory full safe. It's realy best for all of us to verify that our passwords are at least trusted as 100% safe by the cPanel AJAX tester. Any mix of letters, numbers and itemdels

Re: Rev Customer Databased Hacked?

2011-07-11 Thread Terry Judd
Same here. Terry... On 12/07/2011, at 1:44 AM, Jeff Massung mass...@gmail.com wrote: I would just like to say that I haven't been an On-Rev customer for over a year now, and I want to thank the Rev team for still including me in this email (so, yes, I got one, too). Jeff M.