Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-06 Thread Scott Rossi
The logic is: activation is separate from configuration. To activate an effect, click a checkbox; to configure an effect, click the name. You can enable/disable each effect without necessarily configuring each one. In my work, I need to have effects available all the time instead of jumping

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-06 Thread Peter Haworth
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 8:32 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: Oh, and also, it is possible to tick a checkbox without actually selecting the name of the effect. Things only work if both the checkbox is ticked and the name itself is hilited. So sometimes you need to click both.

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-06 Thread Peter Haworth
Ha! I wrote my last email before seeing yours Paul. Definitley a confusing UI! Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Paul Hibbert paulhibb...@mac.com wrote: I use the Graphic Effects regularly and never really noticed that! Just tried it and was

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-06 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/6/13 1:15 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: The logic is: activation is separate from configuration. To activate an effect, click a checkbox; to configure an effect, click the name. You can enable/disable each effect without necessarily configuring each one. Okay, I get it now. I do use Photoshop

Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Peter Haworth
Create a standard button in a stack with the default width and height of 83x23. Now change it's height to something greater than 24 - the rounded edges disappear and it becomes a rectangle button even though the Inspector palette says it's a standard button. Set the height back to 24 or less and

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Mark Wieder
Pete- Saturday, October 5, 2013, 10:04:46 AM, you wrote: Create a standard button in a stack with the default width and height of 83x23. Now change it's height to something greater than 24 - the rounded edges disappear and it becomes a rectangle button even though the Inspector palette says

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Peter Haworth
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: I believe you'll have to talk to Mr. Apple about that. It's built into the OS. Thanks Mark. Is that for the height AND the graphic effect problem? Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/5/13 5:08 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net wrote: I believe you'll have to talk to Mr. Apple about that. It's built into the OS. Thanks Mark. Is that for the height AND the graphic effect problem? I can't repro the graphic

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Peter Haworth
I wonder what's different in our environments? I'm on OSX 10.7.4 and I've seen this issue with both LC 5.5.4 and 6.1.1 on buttons and fields. Removed all frontscripts but still the same. Pete lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 3:40 PM, J. Landman Gay

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/5/13 6:55 PM, Peter Haworth wrote: I wonder what's different in our environments? I'm on OSX 10.7.4 and I've seen this issue with both LC 5.5.4 and 6.1.1 on buttons and fields. Removed all frontscripts but still the same. I'm not sure. I'm on 10.7.5 but I've never seen those settings

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Peter Haworth
On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.comwrote: I'm not sure. I'm on 10.7.5 but I've never seen those settings disabled ever since they were first implemented. What happens if you re-click on the effect you want to use? Sometimes the inspector gets confused about

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Gave that a whirl but no difference. The only one that gives access to the settings is dropshadow. Peter, I'm seeing exactly the same as you.

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/5/13 10:01 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: I also checked 6.0 and 6.0.2 and it's the same. I'm also not sure that it makes sense, but then again I've never used these effects so I don't know their logic. Why are they check boxes and not radio buttons. Because you can select any or all of them.

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 10/5/13 10:01 PM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Peter Haworth p...@lcsql.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 5:12 PM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote: Gave that a whirl but no difference. The only one that gives access to the settings is dropshadow. Oh,

Re: Strange standard button issues

2013-10-05 Thread Paul Hibbert
I use the Graphic Effects regularly and never really noticed that! Just tried it and was surprised to see what you mean, I guess I have always just clicked on the name and it worked as I expected, but yes the checkboxes and names can be out of sync and that could be really confusing. So