RE: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-05 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > 3b - Alter your cost structure to cover the updating of old > versions. > > Everyone pays more. > > That's a good point. No matter which way you look at it the > user must pay for the maintenance and support of the software > for the developer to stay in buisiness. By limiting the free > u

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
Clearly the way to make customers as confident as possible in how they can trust in their ISV ! Le 4 mai 2012 à 21:38, Tim Jones a écrit : > On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > >> What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In >> particular, if I put so

Fwd: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
Début du message réexpédié : > De : Dar Scott > Date : 4 mai 2012 21:13:58 HAEC > À : How to use LiveCode > Objet : Rép : paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin > 1.7.8) > Répondre à : How to use LiveCode > > What would you hope for, look for, in

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
> 3b - Alter your cost structure to cover the updating of old versions. > Everyone pays more. That's a good point. No matter which way you look at it the user must pay for the maintenance and support of the software for the developer to stay in buisiness. By limiting the free update period the

RE: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> So, I'm eager to learn what those who buy products from each > other in this community expect from others in terms of bug > fixes and upgrades and paying more money. You don't know how many times Ive mulled over this question. All I can really say is that it depends on: 1) Does the type of

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Monte Goulding
> In this case, we offer a 60 day protection amnesty period - if the user buys > a version and we ship a major upgrade within the 60 days after they purchase, > they get the new version for free. Probably worth pointing out here that Mark's scheme offers this for 3 months. So theres some tra

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
It's my experience that if I purchase software within a time period of something like a month or two before a major release, I get comped the new version. The period of time is up to you but it's usually something like a month or two. The reason for this is that developers like to keep their rel

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Tim Jones
On May 4, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > Hi, Bob! > > Would it meet the intent of what you are saying to essentially close the > bugs-to-be-fixed list for a major release some period of time--say a > month--after the release of the next major release? (With the caveats of > "may opt to

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
Hi, Bob! Would it meet the intent of what you are saying to essentially close the bugs-to-be-fixed list for a major release some period of time--say a month--after the release of the next major release? (With the caveats of "may opt to do so" as you say.) Or should that period be in the 3 mon

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
On May 4, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Tim Jones wrote: >> I do have a question. If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is >> using 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do >> you fix the bug? That is, do you create version 1.0.6? > > That falls WAY outside of ex

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Bob Sneidar
If I may chime in here, if there is a bug in a prior major revision, and no one called to say so, and there is no maintenance contract, then I think the end user should pay for the new major version. You may as a favor, and if you know what the problem is, do a bug fix and release it, but that w

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Tim Jones
On May 4, 2012, at 1:40 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > Thank you, Tim. This is very clear and attractive. > > I do have a question. If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is using > 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do you fix > the bug? That is, do you create

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
Thank you, Tim. This is very clear and attractive. I do have a question. If Product X is on version 8.8 and a customer is using 1.0.5 (released 11 years ago, just before 2.0.0) and finds a bug, do you fix the bug? That is, do you create version 1.0.6? Another. If Product Y is on 1.5.8 whic

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Tim Jones
On May 4, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Dar Scott wrote: > What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In > particular, if I put something into a storefront window and, in some fit of > insanity, you bought one, what would you think is a reasonable bug-fix policy > for your pu

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
What would you hope for, look for, in bug fixes when you buy a product? In particular, if I put something into a storefront window and, in some fit of insanity, you bought one, what would you think is a reasonable bug-fix policy for your purchase? Or your niece bought one? Dar On May 4, 201

Re: paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Mark Wieder
Dar- Thanks. Good points all. Stuff to think about. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://

paying for bug fixes (was Re: [ANN] Installer Maker Plugin 1.7.8)

2012-05-04 Thread Dar Scott
Here at my place the Igors, minions and henchmen are eager for the darzLab shingle to hang out and we put some products and freebees in the window. Many of these will support folks developing in LiveCode. So, this is important to me. We here on this list are small small shops and want to ha