Re: Bugzilla search

2003-07-12 Thread Alex Rice
On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 11:41 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: That had me thinking : Couldn't we use Revolution and the SOAP toolbox to build a front-end for this sort of thing ? (provided bugzilla talks SOAP, of course) Jan Schenkel. Alas it looks like it has no SOAP. google site:bugzilla.org

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread revolution
(Sorry folks, this is a long and rambling post...) Hi Alex, I suppose the vital issue for a mulit-user, server-side database is going to be concurrency - does it look to users that they are getting the immediate attention of the server, or are they left hanging around? Moreover, can these

Re: Style question: returning error values from functions

2003-07-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 06:11 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: When crafting a function it's often useful to provide info about any errors that occur within it. Arg. Thought I answered on this list, but did on the other. I wrote this: On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 06:11 AM, Richard Gaskin

Re: Style question: returning error values from functions

2003-07-12 Thread revolution
Hi Dar, I did a quick search of the list archive, and there is very little discussion of the use of Try and Throw. I suspect quite a few of us on the list might benefit from becoming more comfortable in using Try and Throw. Bernard Are people comfortable with throw? The value of

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Hi Bernard, Furthermore, there is the whole issue of locking for writes to the database. I'm not sure if the Serendipity db has any locking mechanism. The single-user version of SDB currently available at my ftp site does not; the Client/Server version now being alpha tested does. Without

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Rev IPC Group Wow! Sounds cool. Is there a URL or discussion group for this? Alex, et al: I should know it, as Jan made me co-moderator last December; but I have not exercised those powers yet. Try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revolution_ipc. If there is no subscribe option there, I'm sure

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread James Lewes
what is the ftp address where single user copies can be found On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 10:03 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Hi Bernard, Furthermore, there is the whole issue of locking for writes to the database. I'm not sure if the Serendipity db has any locking mechanism. The single-user

Re: Image conversion still broken

2003-07-12 Thread Martin Baxter
Ken Norris wrote: Hello all, Rev 2.0.1 still refuses to convert a PICT to a PNG on Import. Tuviah said it works, but I'm saying it's broken on my end. It will not work, period. I have no reason to lie about it, and have not found a cure. Any help appreciated. Mac G4 tower, 350mHz, 500mb RAM, OS

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
what is the ftp address where single user copies can be found I wish you had not asked that question, James. I clicked on the URL I was about to post, and found that the upshot of my ongoing (1 month, a dozen or more eMails, four phone calls, six faxes) effort to get Network Solutions to do

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Everyone, Jan passed his thoughts on some of this to me privately. I'm posting my response to the list because (a) I think I know him well enough that he won't mind, and (b) to save any else the time of correcting me regarding selecting all columns of a single record. In our projects, we set

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread revolution
Hi Rob, I did take a look on your web site a few weeks or months ago for some documentation on SDB. I didn't find it, and guessed that you thought that anyone who was really interested would take a look at the code, since you kindly make it available for us to read. Sorry, I was too lazy,

Hebrew Arabic texts

2003-07-12 Thread muaadh salih
I have, partially, solved the Unicode text, We are now working on Chunk and bits There is an urgent problem : Text Insertion. Both Languages have R to L text alignment which is fine but the text insertion make the line back to front examples: Real Arabic-Hebrew should read : Word4 Word3

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Alex Rice
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 06:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Sorry folks, this is a long and rambling post...) Bernard, you are raising lots of interesting issues but I disagree with you about some of technical possibilities. - Very high performance servers can be constructed in a

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Bernard, et al: I did take a look on your web site a few weeks or months ago for some documentation on SDB. I didn't find it, No, it, like the page in my signature below, is not linked to the main website. That's a spare time project, as the website is meant to promote OenoLog and there is

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Klaus Major
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED], IIRC, the altBrowser is IE only? No, you can also set it up to use Mozilla/NetScape, if installed! I would not like to rely on Microsoft for anything. They have a history of destroying competition (by fair means or foul). And it is my belief that we have seen nothing yet:

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Rob Cozens wrote: I clicked on the URL I was about to post, and found that the upshot of my ongoing (1 month, a dozen or more eMails, four phone calls, six faxes) effort to get Network Solutions to do what they needed to do so my new domain registry could handle my domain renewal,

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
I would not like to rely on Microsoft for anything. They have a history of destroying competition (by fair means or foul). And it is my belief that we have seen nothing yet: they are going to tighten their monopoly position in ways that many people have not yet imagined. Unless others follow

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Rob Cozens
Suggestion: blow off Network Solutions. Believe me, Scott, that's been the goal of my whole frustrating exchange. If Network Solution was in charge of the President's security, not only would it have been impossible for an unidentified person to get on the press plane in Africa; the Chief of

Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread revolution
Hi Alex, Thanks for the comments. It is helping me to think things through. I do not think people should be prevented from using Rev on the server side, for lack of documentation or supporting. I agree. I too wish that the documentation on CGI programming with Rev was more pronounced.

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 20:04, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 7/12/03 10:02 AM, Geoff Canyon wrote: -- snip -- For those who prefer MC's simplicity, I don't see any harm in continuing to assure it is compatible with the most current Rev engine. People will still have to purchase Revolution to

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: And i wants to add that, because, some RR/MC apps needs to be build to run with no GUI at all (backgrounder or console-mode apps and demons), we needs to have a lightweight UI available to code, debug and maintain this kind of apps,

XML integration [was]Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Mark Brownell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Rice wrote: I asked what Runrev's plans for XML were, and pointed out that it seemed to be a bit unclear as to the purpose of including XML functionality in the latest version. Huh? Maybe I don't understand the question. Obviously the purpose was to have an XML parser.

Can't delete a standalone after running?

2003-07-12 Thread Edwin Gore
On windows XP Home, I have noticed that if I build a standalone, exit revolution, and run the standalone, I am unable to delete it afterwards without restarting my computer. The error message I get is: Cannot delete .exe: Access is denied Make sure that the disk is not full or write

Re: Moving the MC IDE forward

2003-07-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 01:49 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 01:21 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: And i wants to add that, because, some RR/MC apps needs to be build to run with no GUI at all (backgrounder or console-mode apps and demons), we needs to have a lightweight UI

Re: XML integration [was]Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mark Brownell wrote: With regard to XML ... It is cool to have an XML parser in Rev. But the potential is vast, and I hope to see some sign that Runrev have a strategic direction with this. For example, it would be nice for them to integrate version control from within Rev. This surely

Re: Can't delete a standalone after running?

2003-07-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 01:50 PM, Edwin Gore wrote: On windows XP Home, I have noticed that if I build a standalone, exit revolution, and run the standalone, I am unable to delete it afterwards without restarting my computer. The error message I get is: Cannot delete .exe: Access is

Re: XML integration [was]Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Mark Brownell
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 01:11 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Brownell wrote: With regard to XML ... It is cool to have an XML parser in Rev. But the potential is vast, and I hope to see some sign that Runrev have a strategic direction with this. For example, it would be nice for them

About MC/RR applications servers

2003-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 14:13, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- snip -- If I remember rightly, it was this kind of reliance on speed (and forking of processors) that Pierre was using to have Rev acting as the CGI engine to a PostgreSQL db. Normally people recommend against CGI becuase of the overhead

Re: Can I draw a line (or better any polygon) directly on screen?

2003-07-12 Thread Cubist
sez ken norris: I couildn't get any of my paint programs, or even Photoshop, to make a transparent PNG image of nothing. My experience does not match yours... I'm using Photoshop 6.0 for Mac. I opened up an old .PSD file I had lying around, made some bits of it transparent, selected SAVE

Re: Can't delete a standalone after running?

2003-07-12 Thread Shao Sean
all this means is your app hasn't finished doing something (i use to get this a lot with sockets, but now i'm wiser ;-) all you need to do is bring up the task manager (ctrl-alt-del OR right-click the task bar and select it from the menu), go to the Processes tab and find your program, select it

Re: Style question: returning error values from functions

2003-07-12 Thread erik hansen
--- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I readily use throw in scripts for my own use. Are people comfortable with throw? what is throw? it sounds exciting. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95

Re: About MC/RR applications servers

2003-07-12 Thread revolution
Thanks Pierre for stepping in. I had indeed misremembered what I had read a few months ago. This makes very interesting reading and is a great overview of what you have done. Let me see if I understand your process: 2.- The Apache demon (configured to accept up to 150 requests peer second)

Re: XML integration

2003-07-12 Thread revolution
Hi Richard, No it is not Mark that has a bee in his bonnet about XML, it is me :-) The diff program I am using sees Rev stacks as binary files. All it can tell me is that two binary files are indeed different; it can't show me where they differ. This is one reason why I would like to be able

Re: Style question: returning error values from functions

2003-07-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 03:21 PM, erik hansen wrote: --- Dar Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I readily use throw in scripts for my own use. Are people comfortable with throw? what is throw? it sounds exciting. I think in Revolution it is something like this: A throw allows you to create an

Re: XML integration [was]Re: Can Rev be used as server database?

2003-07-12 Thread Alex Rice
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 02:11 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Couldn't you diff the binaries? Diff-ing binaries doesn't give any useful information, in any tool that I'm aware of. (On OS X) # diff FacCalc1.rev FacCalc2.rev Binary files FacCalc1.rev and FacCalc2.rev differ Am I

Re: About MC/RR applications servers

2003-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 23:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Pierre for stepping in. I had indeed misremembered what I had read a few months ago. This makes very interesting reading and is a great overview of what you have done. Let me see if I understand your process: 2.- The

Re: About MC/RR applications servers

2003-07-12 Thread Alex Rice
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 06:40 PM, Pierre Sahores wrote: Did you ever ask you about the difference it makes to use real application server instead of just including sql replies in web forms ? Since you asked, I've been writing web applications since 1995. I know relational databases. I

Re: DB examples corrupted? and other questions

2003-07-12 Thread Pierre Sahores
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 03:17, David Vaughan wrote: Apropos these discussions about databases, I downloaded Tuviah's DBExamples to have a look at Valentina but attempting to open either of the two examples provided produced the error unable to open - stack corrupted (more or less). It's

Re: DB examples corrupted? and other questions

2003-07-12 Thread Richard Gaskin
David Vaughan wrote: Of the various DB options for OS X, it appears from a quick scan that: - mySQL is free, fast and not overly friendly to manage - PostGRE is free, not as fast but more complete an implementation than mySQL - Valentina is damned expensive for one user on one machine with

best usage of library stacks

2003-07-12 Thread Alex Rice
I guess all new Rev users reach this point- where you try to figure out how to reuse your code in library stacks. I see there is Move substack to file Is there a way to Save substack to file and Import substack from file? Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants,

Re: DB examples corrupted? and other questions

2003-07-12 Thread David Vaughan
On Sunday, Jul 13, 2003, at 11:41 Australia/Sydney, Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Vaughan wrote: snip - ...and of course I could just do it in Rev as my DB size, while not very small, does not push limits (10,000 records, 10MB). The 10,000-record limit is by no means absolute, and

Re: Image conversion still broken

2003-07-12 Thread curry
Dear Ken, If you can get the PICT into your stack, I think you can then set the paintcompression to whatever format you want, click in the image with paint select tool, and there you go. (I think.) Paintcompression is global, not for a particular images. Set it and then all images you edit

Re: Style question: returning error values from functions

2003-07-12 Thread Dar Scott
On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 04:48 PM, Dar Scott wrote: The optional 'finally' clause is executed however control gets out of the try. Use it like this: local veryVeryLargeTempArray try build veryVeryLargeTempArray doSomethingWith veryVeryLargeTempArray catch errVal throw errVal