Changing font/encoding for script editor

2003-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
Anyone know how to change the font and/or decoding for the script editor? I have some Japanese comments that I would like to be able to read, and to be able to avoid editing partial characters. -- Joel Rees, programmer, Kansai Systems Group Altech Corporation (Alpsgiken), Osaka, Japan

dumping (exporting?) the scripts to text files

2003-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
Hunted around in the on-line docs and I found various kinds of import and export and information on saving text, fields content, etc. to files, but I didn't find anything about saving the script itself to a text file. I'm sure it should be doable, because one of the most necessary tools when

dumping (exporting?) the scripts to text files

2003-07-30 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Joel, Hunted around in the on-line docs and I found various kinds of import and export and information on saving text, fields content, etc. to files, but I didn't find anything about saving the script itself to a text file. Here is a starter: Actually the stack only analyzes itself. You need

RE: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding
I haven't used CVS but it seems to be the industry standard. CVS is great, but it's also very old and difficult to configure. Hopefully Subversion will replace CVS as an industry standard. http://subversion.tigris.org/ This says it handles binary files but I guess we don't really have a

Re: dumping (exporting?) the scripts to text files

2003-07-30 Thread Klaus Major
Konichi-wa Rees-san, Hunted around in the on-line docs and I found various kinds of import and export and information on saving text, fields content, etc. to files, but I didn't find anything about saving the script itself to a text file. I'm sure it should be doable, because one of the most

Limited number of DB records returned with 2.02

2003-07-30 Thread Tuviah Snyder
With MySQL and Rev 2.0.2, revDatabaseColumnNamed and revDatabaseColumnNumbered both work fine. No reason to worry. I simply need to update RevDB with the new licensing..it still thinks you need a pro version with a special passcode to get unlimited acess to mysql, odbc, valentina, and postgresql

Re: Universal GUI

2003-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
I second a previoius notion of using the existing MetaCard mailing list as the OS GUI MetaCard list. Is this possible? I've been trying to get on the metacard mailing list, but the address I sent the subscribe to was apparently not correct. (Had the same problem here, but I looked at the

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
However: the .rev file format is not just source code. A .rev file can contain images, movie and sound clips, and binary data (custom properties). So I guess stack != source code is the best way to describe it. Hmmm... good point. Makes me even more nervous, tho Why nervous?

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Monte Goulding wrote: I think you're right. We need something built for Rev. A system designed for lots of little files and package structures needed in Java etc will never work right in Rev. Here's a simple option that might serve a lot of needs sufficiently: A tool for opening stack files

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Joel Rees
I haven't used CVS but it seems to be the industry standard. CVS is great, but it's also very old and difficult to configure. Hopefully Subversion will replace CVS as an industry standard. http://subversion.tigris.org/ This says it handles binary files but I guess we don't really

Re: Limited number of DB records returned with 2.02

2003-07-30 Thread Pierre Sahores
Le mercredi, 30 jul 2003, à 10:58 Europe/Paris, Tuviah Snyder a écrit : With MySQL and Rev 2.0.2, revDatabaseColumnNamed and revDatabaseColumnNumbered both work fine. No reason to worry. I simply need to update RevDB with the new licensing..it still thinks you need a pro version with a special

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Joel Rees wrote: Hmmm... good point. Makes me even more nervous, tho Why nervous? Maintenance, as he said. With plain text and its variants, you can eyeball the changes, worst comes to worst. Incidentally, keeping the source in XML should not necessarily require the use of many tiny

re: OT - Rev XML terms--tutorials

2003-07-30 Thread Tuviah Snyder
Not sure, but I think it is synonymous with an XML element. But the semantics are that a node is part of a tree structure. So it's an XML element that maybe has parent node, sibling nodes and children nodes. I love XML and think of XML as the text representation of a data structure. But it may be

OenoLog Software

2003-07-30 Thread Jackie Merkison
We own and operate a farm winery in north Georgia and would like to have information as to where OenoLog can be purchased. We are unable to connect with the www.oenolog.com link. Thanks Jackie Merkison Tiger Mountain Vineyards ___ use-revolution

re: Changing font/encoding for script editor

2003-07-30 Thread Tuviah Snyder
The actual scripts are saved in Ascii..but don't see why Rev can't save the comments in HTML along with the styles. Anyone know how to change the font and/or decoding for the script editor? I have some Japanese comments that I would like to be able to read, and to be able to avoid editing

dumping (exporting?) the scripts to text files

2003-07-30 Thread Malte Brill
Hi Joel, Just turned it into a plugin... download from http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/stacks/script2text.rev.zip unzip, drop it in your Plugins Folder, look at it, throw it away if you dont like it. :-) Regards, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing

Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-30 Thread Heather Williams
Dear listees, We have uploaded a fix to the 2.0.2 distribution builder, here: http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/distributions/2.0/updates/ Please download this, unzip it, and place it in your components/tools directory inside Revolution. This will substantially enhance your ability to

Re: use-revolution digest, Vol 1 #1683 - 16 msgs

2003-07-30 Thread Keith Martin
and then slowly destroying hypercard A stack that destroys a software program when it interprets an action as unsuitable? Now what the word for that...? Starts with a v I think. Destroying the stack (or a standalone version) seems defensible, but I'm not sure there is safe legal ground for

Re: Of HIG, Apple, and User-Centric Design

2003-07-30 Thread Keith Martin
I agree totally: a checkbox is meant to be a control, not just a passive indicator. Why not both? [snip] Of course if the checkbox never becomes enabled and is used solely for display, any button type would be inappropriate as buttons are meant to be clicked. That's what I was thinking. If it

Revolution and page setup

2003-07-30 Thread Neil Phillips
Thanks Howard and Scott for your help with getting the printer into landscape format. I tried out Answer printer in the script after a dialogue box stating that the printer had to be set to landscape. The printer Page Setup dialogue box came up and the user then knows to set it to landscape. Some

Re: 2.0.2 now available

2003-07-30 Thread Donald Watson
Actually, I think most of us on this list have no idea what we have been migrated to. RR's web site still displays the message: Information about renewal terms, updates, and pricing will be available here shortly. IMO, posting information about the new license categories for new users prior

Re: OenoLog Software

2003-07-30 Thread Rob Cozens
Dear Ms.Merkison, I apologize for your problems accessing oenolog.com. It's a long story beginning last April when I attempted to renew the domain with a new registry and encountered problems that were not solved before the domain expired the end of last month. The website is being moved to

duplicating substacks

2003-07-30 Thread Stephen Messimer
Hi, Using the Application Browser, is there a way to duplicate a substack in place? I know I can remove the substack from its main stack duplicate it and then make both of them substacks again. I'm just wondering if there is a faster way. Thanks. Steve Stephen R. Messimer, PA 208 1st Ave.

duplicating substacks

2003-07-30 Thread Stephen Messimer
Hi, Using the Application Browser, is there a way to duplicate a substack in place? I know I can remove the substack in question duplicate it and then make both of them substacks again. I'm just wondering if there is a faster way to do this. :-) Thanks, Steve Stephen R. Messimer, PA 208

Re: OenoLog Software

2003-07-30 Thread Rob Cozens
Apologies all...I don't have a clue how I managed this. Look like a quadruple foole day for moi. :{`) -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole

RE: OT - Rev XML terms--tutorials

2003-07-30 Thread Chipp Walters
check out http://www.w3schools.com for a good *free* intro to XML Question 2: (OT) for the complete XML newbie... what is your recommendation to get up to speed... with such a vast number or resources on the web and tons of books... its hard to focus TIA Sannyasin

Re: duplicating substacks

2003-07-30 Thread Igor Couto
Hi there! On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 11:56 PM, Stephen Messimer wrote: Using the Application Browser, is there a way to duplicate a substack in place? I know I can remove the substack in question duplicate it and then make both of them substacks again. I'm just wondering if there is a

Re: randomnumber / randomseed

2003-07-30 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On Mittwoch, Jul 30, 2003, at 06:56 Europe/Zurich, Dar Scott wrote: On Tuesday, July 29, 2003, at 08:48 PM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I am experimenting with the random functions, and I would like to know what exactly the largest number is that the randomseed still accepts, as I found out that

Re: OenoLog Software

2003-07-30 Thread Rob Cozens
Look like a quadruple foole day for moi. :{`) Fortunately, I'm not under strict non-disclosure with Simple Solutions, or my smiley would be a frowney. -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a

Re: OT - Rev XML terms--tutorials

2003-07-30 Thread Mark Brownell
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 07:16 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: check out http://www.w3schools.com for a good *free* intro to XML This place is a joke. It takes forever to load: http://www.w3schools.com/downloadwww.htm

Bring a window to front

2003-07-30 Thread Steve Gehlbach
I can't seem to find a command to bring a window (stack or sub-stack) to the front, or to give it the property always on top, if that exits (non-modal). Is there a methodology to do this in Revolution? -Steve ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL

Re: Bring a window to front

2003-07-30 Thread Keith Martin
I can't seem to find a command to bring a window (stack or sub-stack) to the front, or to give it the property always on top, if that exits (non-modal). Is there a methodology to do this in Revolution? go to stack name of stack brings the window to the top also making it a palette will keep

Update available for license.rev

2003-07-30 Thread Heather Williams
Dear good folks, We have posted an update to the license stack for Revolution, since a few people are having trouble with the new codes. If you are having problems registering 2.0.2, go to the updates directory http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/distributions/2.0/updates/ and download

Re: randomnumber / randomseed

2003-07-30 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:31 AM, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I don't know the exact limit for random(), but I do know that 2^31 is a near upper bound. The randomseed limit may be similar. That says nothing on the quality of results for use of random() up to that limit. This sees

Multithread/Background function execution in Rev?

2003-07-30 Thread nfeasey
The strange thing about my fade in/out effects is that they work in all other aspects of the program (using the wait 2 seconds with messages does the trick for me) but in the menuPick listed below it does not work at all. This is the _only_ place that it doesn't work. I am going to try sends as

Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Shafer
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:40 AM, Donald Watson wrote: IMO, posting information about the new license categories for new users prior to informing current customers of their change in status and pricing is inexcusable. Might I suggest this wording was a bit of an over-reaction? Doing what

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread sims
I would go just a step further: I would call it merely suboptimal. ;) Agree. In practical terms, the only people even potentially affected materially was the small subset of licensees whos expiration date fell between the 2.0.2 announcement and now, a span of two weeks out of 52. I am a bit

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 12:07 PM, sims wrote: My key expires on Nov 30, 2003. I have not received a new unlock code and have tried my old code on the 2.0.2 and now we have notice of unlock problems. Have others with a valid license received some new unlock code? In the dark here... Yep

Re: How do I make an external ?

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 11:36 AM, Jez wrote: I want to make an external for Revolution to access a few of the functions provided in User32.dll. I do have experience of visual C programming. I found a directory External SDK in my old 1.1.1 Revolution directory, but nothing under 2.0, and

Missing Color in StandAlones

2003-07-30 Thread R. Hillen
Hello list, On MacOS X 10.2.6 with Rev 2.0.2 just after downloading I didn´t succed in building a colored standAlone. This are my steps: 1. step Start Revolution File / New Mainstack Object/Stack Inspector/Colors Patterns/Background-Color = Blue/ Close Inspector Window - stack Color becomes

Re: Bring a window to front

2003-07-30 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Ken Ray wrote: For Windows, Shao Sean wrote a DLL to do it: http://dark.unitz.ca/~shaosean/development/index.html#libSMTP I don't know about how to do it for Mac... Thanks for the idea, maybe I should take it up with Shao, but it doesn't seem to work. I tried to re-compile it, to see it

Re: Missing Color in StandAlones

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 12:40 PM, R. Hillen wrote: My Question: Why? Richard- maybe it's a RunRev bug. Please add your test recipe to bug #176 in bugzilla. RR developers: maybe my bug #190 should actually be combined with #176. Not sure. Is this problem also why field selection hilight

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Donald Watson
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 12:55 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:40 AM, Donald Watson wrote: IMO, posting information about the new license categories for new users prior to informing current customers of their change in status and pricing is inexcusable. Might I

Re: determining network connection status

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:05 PM, Eric Peden wrote: I could fix (1) by opening a socket with a shorter timeout value, but that still doesn't address (2). Any ideas? As a former tech support guy, I know some modem users get mad when their computer auto-dials to connect to the Internet. It

Re: determining network connection status

2003-07-30 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:05 PM, Eric Peden wrote: Currently, I simply get URL a page on our web server and, if the result is empty, show the not connected message. However, this has a couple of problems: 1) There's often a significant timeout delay when the network is unavailable,

Re: Bring a window to front

2003-07-30 Thread Thierry Arbellot
Externals SDK from 1.1.1 works with 2.0.x, except on OS X You can download updated SDK from Metacard's site http://www.metacard.com/get.html Thierry Arbellot. On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 21:06 Europe/Paris, Alex Rice wrote: On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:02 PM, Steve Gehlbach wrote: I

Re: Missing Color in StandAlones

2003-07-30 Thread Thierry Arbellot
Hi Richard, When you build the distribution, have you uncheck the check box apply default Colors (step 3 of 3, tab Stacks) ? Thierry Arbellot. On Wednesday, Jul 30, 2003, at 20:40 Europe/Paris, R. Hillen wrote: Hello list, On MacOS X 10.2.6 with Rev 2.0.2 just after downloading I didn´t

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Donald Watson
From: Donald Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed Jul 30, 2003 4:50:30 PM America/Detroit To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble) On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 01:38 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: I would go just a step further: I would call it merely

RE: How do I internalize an image source?

2003-07-30 Thread Graham
Thanks to Chipp and Scott for replying. I had written: On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:50:08 -0500, Chipp Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: put url(bin C:/test.png) into image myinternalimage Chipp, thanks but that requires me to put the new images in external files, which is what I'm trying to avoid

Player Filename too long

2003-07-30 Thread Jez
If a player's filename (including the path) is too long, it simply doesn't play at all. When will this be fixed ? I was hoping it would be fixed in 2.0 but no ... Failing a fix, is there a way to translate a long path (C:\Program Files\etc) into a 16-bit short path (C:\Progra~1\etc), which may

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Judy Perry
OTOH, the online documentation beats that which comes with Director, which came out with a Mac OSX version *considerably later* than did RR; other bugs *did* get fixed; and probably a good deal many of us are getting another year and a major upgrade when technically we didn't pay for one. As one

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Donald Watson
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 02:24 PM, Alex Rice wrote: Yep I got mine. I'll append the message sans the unlock code. I don't see what the fuss is about. The message says exactly what is going on. Maybe the poster who thinks it is inexcusable has not yet got their message from RR? Alex,

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 03:24 PM, Donald Watson wrote: Alex, This was not the point of my original posting. By the way the poster who thinks it is inexcusable ( namely me ) has a name. ; ) In fact I had not yet received my unlock code. The point I was trying to make was that the

Re: determining network connection status

2003-07-30 Thread Jim Lambert
If the user is offline when they try to submit this data, I would like to display an error message reminding them to connect first before submitting their information. some modem users get mad when their computer auto-dials to connect to the Internet. You could just ask them if they're

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Keith Martin
Judy Perry said: I know of several Mac Director users in my master's program who are forced to use Director and had to pay *twice* within a single semester's period just to get the OSX version, and even then what they ended up with was a doubly expensive, buggy piece of crap Personally, I think

Re: Bring a window to front

2003-07-30 Thread Steve Gehlbach
Thierry Arbellot wrote: Externals SDK from 1.1.1 works with 2.0.x, except on OS X You can download updated SDK from Metacard's site http://www.metacard.com/get.html Thanks, I got it, rebuilt the alwaysontop dll under visual c++ 6.0 on win2k, and it doesn't work either (runs fine, just doesn't

Re: randomnumber / randomseed

2003-07-30 Thread Michael
Oops. put random 10 into x set the randomseed to x get random(whatever) - Original Message - From: Björnke von Gierke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:48 pm Subject: randomnumber / randomseed I am experimenting with the random functions, and I would like to know

Stack opens manually but scripts think it's corrupted?

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Shafer
I have a stack that I can open from the File menu in RR, or by double-clicking it in Mac OS X Finder. No problems. But if I try to open it or go to it using the URL keyword, either from a handler or from the Message Box, I get the same result every time: an error indicating the stack is

Re: randomnumber / randomseed

2003-07-30 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 05:43 PM, Michael wrote: put random 10 into x set the randomseed to x get random(whatever) Getting some randomness into the randomSeed it a good idea. Is that what this is about? I don't think this will do it, though. This script will always product the

Re: Inexcusable? (Was Re: Rev 2.0.2 is availalble)

2003-07-30 Thread Rob Cozens
Have others with a valid license received some new unlock code? Bongu, sims. Mine was sent 6 hours before availability of the actual update was announced: -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.com/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little

Re: Stack opens manually but scripts think it's corrupted?

2003-07-30 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: go stack URL file:/Users/dshafer/Documents/ch5foo.rev Any clues? Use binfile instead of file -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge: Publish any database on any Web site ___

RE: OT - Rev XML terms--tutorials

2003-07-30 Thread Chipp Walters
Mark, I loaded www.w3schools.com in about 2.5 seconds. I find the site quite helpful on a number of fronts. The URL you posted, is indeed a joke. It's just an animated GIF which runs forever. I don't know how you got there. Please use Plain text in your posts instead of HTML. It helps for digest

Re: Changing font/encoding for script editor

2003-07-30 Thread Sarah
Anyone know how to change the font and/or decoding for the script editor? I have some Japanese comments that I would like to be able to read, and to be able to avoid editing partial characters. I don't know about encoding, but the script editor font can be changed in the normal Rev preferences.

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 03:34 AM, Joel Rees wrote: How about using the sandbox pattern from CVS -- each developer has his/her own copy of everything he/she wants to look at and changes are only registered on commits. If there is a conflict, the management system refuses the commit and

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 02:58 AM, Monte Goulding wrote: Hmmm... now if we could only apply that to the networked world. What about using IM (jabber or something) to broadcast changes? If it was done well then any field could instantly become a chatroom ;-) A log could be maintained

Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-30 Thread Sarah
Hi Wolfgang, I had a look at your screen shots and it seemed that you may not have gone deep enough into the OS X package contents. Did you check in all the sub-folders of the package to see if your sub-stacks where hidden further down the hierarchy? I have only use 2.0.2 to build a single

Re: dumping (exporting?) the scripts to text files

2003-07-30 Thread Sarah
I'm sure it should be doable, because one of the most necessary tools when porting a hyperscript stack is to be able to run a multifile global search-and-replace, and that works best if I can get the script text into files and, say, open them in BBEdit or simply massage them with perl. Have you

RE: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding
Hmmm... now if we could only apply that to the networked world. What about using IM (jabber or something) to broadcast changes? If it was done well then any field could instantly become a chatroom ;-) A log could be maintained for rollback. Hmmm... I think this is worth some

Re: OT - Rev XML terms--tutorials

2003-07-30 Thread Mark Brownell
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:54 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Mark, I loaded www.w3schools.com in about 2.5 seconds. I find the site quite helpful on a number of fronts. The URL you posted, is indeed a joke. It's just an animated GIF which runs forever. I don't know how you got there. Please

Re: Fix to distribution builder available

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 08:54 PM, Sarah wrote: Hi Wolfgang, I had a look at your screen shots and it seemed that you may not have gone deep enough into the OS X package contents. Did you check in all the sub-folders of the package to see if your sub-stacks where hidden further

Re: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Alex Rice
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:21 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Well that looks like almost exactly what I'm talking about but with stacks. But I don't see that Rendezvous has huge advantages over Jabber??? Jabber could be implemented (and has been) in transcript. I don't know Jabber.

RE: Question on .rev file format

2003-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 09:21 PM, Monte Goulding wrote: Well that looks like almost exactly what I'm talking about but with stacks. But I don't see that Rendezvous has huge advantages over Jabber??? Jabber could be implemented (and has been) in transcript. I don't know

Re: Stack opens manually but scripts think it's corrupted?

2003-07-30 Thread Dan Shafer
On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 07:29 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: go stack URL file:/Users/dshafer/Documents/ch5foo.rev Any clues? Use binfile instead of file That did the trick. Thanks, Richard. Documentation bug to report to Jeanne.