no subject

2004-02-11 Thread Ed McCabe
Dan said: I've resisted comment as long as I can. It's torture. Most of my feelings have been expressed by others, but there is one point that I think is perhaps under-appreciated. The notion that we should add to the Transcript syntax to make the program less beginnerish (which I agree it

tabbed button weirdness

2004-02-11 Thread Stephen Messimer
Hi, I have noticed what seems to be an irregularity in how tabbed buttons function when grouped. recipe: create a tabbed button group it click the select grouped icon of the Rev Task bar now try to use the selection handles of the tabbed button to change its size. It doesn't work. It works

Re: tabbed button weirdness

2004-02-11 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Steve, I don't think it is either a feature or a bug. I just think that the tabbed button is a special object and as such is handled a little differently. I look at it like the menu object where it is a little bit different than other objects. Other may know what the real deal is with tabs.

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Jim Carwardine
I agree wholeheartedly. Here's my rant... I've been involved continuously with computers since 1967 (Comp. Sci, 70) and programmed in just about every commercial language on just about every type of commercial computer AND THEY ALL SUCK. I bought a Mac in 1984 and Hypercard in 1987 AND THEY

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
I wish xTalk had some ADDITIONAL constructs that made it more accessible to computer scientists and professional programmers. Both because without them xTalk look amateurish, and therefore less likely to be used by professionals, and because it would make it significantly easier to port code

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
Thirty years ago I wrote a proposal for using lisp for a distributed control system project. Hi Dar, Thirty years ago I was responsible for procurement and development of Oakland Police Department's MIS. While the City of Oakland DP Dept. was a COBOL shop, Boeing Computer Systems had just

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
the association of Xtalk and C can lead to a tremendous power in high end projects, Rev Xtalk being used to build top quality front ends (with unbeatable productivity cost ratios) while C being used in externals JB, and anyone else enamored of C: Program all the externals you desire! But if

Function output, a bug or a feature?

2004-02-11 Thread Devin Asay
Here's the recipe: Create a new mainstack. Create a field on the card. Open the stack script and write a simple function handler. I used this one: function cube theNumber return theNumber^3 end cube Open the message box and call the new function: put cube(3) -- works

Re: tabbed button weirdness

2004-02-11 Thread Stephen Messimer
Tom, This is a not a major problem but it is irritating. I just thought that palette objects should all have the same set of methods when it comes to something as fundamental as resizing. my 2 Steve On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 10:29 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve, I don't

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Kevin Miller
On 11/2/04 12:27 am, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nope. I'm with those who say to RunRev, The syntax is beautiful. We don't care if 'real programmers' (whoever *they* are) think it's amateurish. We'll be happy to keep making a living by writing apps faster and cheaper than all those

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
although a C and asm compiler would be nice, C has this nice feature for other language usage... on mouseup c{ do some c code real fast ; asm{ do some assembler code at warpspeed; } } See? No need for those overcomplicated externals... ;) -=-

Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
Hi everyone, Other than parsing completely out the html code, you would assume that set the RTFText of fld text to the HTMLText of fld html converts html to styled text... BUT IT DOESNT! There doesn't seem to be any other language features for this purpose. This conversion is catastrophic!

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Mark Brownell
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 05:55 AM, Rob Cozens wrote: Maybe it should be x := 1 for Pascal programmers; or how about x = 1; for PL/1 programmers? Maybe it could be x :=) 1 for I just dumped my girl-friend... mb ___ use-revolution mailing

copy problems

2004-02-11 Thread Friedrich F. Grohmann
There seems to be a problem with copying from another application to Rev. I am trying to transfer Chinese text step by step into a Rev application under development in Panther. The text is copied from a Nisus file with Nisus working under OS 9. Quite often the contents of the clipboard seem to

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread jbv
Rob, JB, and anyone else enamored of C: Program all the externals you desire! But if you're only using C for externals, there is no need for C syntax in Transcriptand there isn't anyway, IMFO. -- 100% agreed. What I meant was : use Transcript for top quality front ends, and C for

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Mark Brownell
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 07:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than parsing completely out the html code, you would assume that set the RTFText of fld text to the HTMLText of fld html converts html to styled text... BUT IT DOESNT! Have you tried: putting fld html into zingText

Re: SoCal RevDevCon

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
Maybe the european rev devvers could do the same with wine/beer and hyper-cheese ? anyone? regards, Xavier On 11/02/2004 12:00:13 use-revolution-bounces wrote: It's about time for another SoCal RevDevCon, our informal gatherings of local Rev developers in which we geek out over dinner and

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 08:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other than parsing completely out the html code, you would assume that set the RTFText of fld text to the HTMLText of fld html converts html to styled text... BUT IT DOESNT! There doesn't seem to be any other language

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Pierre Sahores
On 11/2/04 12:27 am, Dan Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: because we have a language that thinks like we do, not like the compiler does. Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores 100, rue de Paris F - 77140 Nemours [EMAIL PROTECTED] GSM: +33 6 03 95 77 70 Pro: +33 1 41 60 52 68 Dom: +33 1 64 45

Re: Function output, a bug or a feature?

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 11, 2004, at 8:28 AM, Devin Asay wrote: However, try putting the output of the function into the field: put cube(3) into fld 1 -- the output goes into the message box, not the field. It seems like a message box bug to me! -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
(after 5 minutes battling with lotus notes (takes 3 minutes to copy paste BASIC text at 99% CPU usage %)(*@%)@(*@(%*@ , ultraedit (never copies on the first try) and RR to get this copied corretly without shrunk styled text in a CODE window that doesn't need it... and the text menu in the script

Re: Function output, a bug or a feature?

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
While on teh subject of the msg box answer there is a linefeed in fld text is ok but put ( there is a linefeed in fld text) doesnt... This was so nice in HC... Also if you do 4+5 the msg is changed to it's preferred format put 4+5 so why doesn't put (there is a linefeed in fld text) not

Re: copy problems

2004-02-11 Thread Stephen Quinn Barncard
I have had problems using the clipboard between Classic and OSX Panther. Seems to be a big wall therecan you get a copy of Nisus for OSX? There seems to be a problem with copying from another application to Rev. I am trying to transfer Chinese text step by step into a Rev application ..

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Richard K. Herz
Kevin wrote, The syntax is neither amateurish, nor only for beginners. The... We're not about to spend time making our virtually self-commenting code... Hurray! Rich Herz Mechanical Aerospace Engineering Dept. University of California, San Diego ___

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure if i was clear, I want to convert HTML text in fld HTML to RTF in fld TEXT lock screen put field HTML into temp set the htmlText of field HTML to temp put the rtfText of field HTML into field TEXT put

Re: Function output, a bug or a feature?

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While on teh subject of the msg box answer there is a linefeed in fld text is ok but put ( there is a linefeed in fld text) doesnt... This was so nice in HC... Also if you do 4+5 the msg is changed to it's preferred format put 4+5 Interestingly, the

Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Ed McCabe
From: Ed McCabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/02/11 Wed AM 09:37:31 EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: no subject Dan said: I've resisted comment as long as I can. It's torture. Most of my feelings have been expressed by others, but there is one point that I think is perhaps

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to convert HTML text in fld HTML to RTF in fld TEXT There are three ways to refer to the contents of fields: the text -- returns plain text the htmlText -- return text with style run info in HTML the rtfText -- return text with style run info in RTF If

Drop into C (Was Is Transcript's English...)

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 08:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: although a C and asm compiler would be nice, C has this nice feature for other language usage... on mouseup c{ do some c code real fast ; asm{ do some assembler code at warpspeed; } } See? No need for those

Re: copy problems

2004-02-11 Thread Yves COPPE
Hi, I encounter the same problem between the mac OS 9 clipboard and Mac oS X Rev version and other mac OS 9 Apps. Le 11 févr. 2004, à 18:18, Stephen Quinn Barncard a écrit : I have had problems using the clipboard between Classic and OSX Panther. Seems to be a big wall therecan you get a

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
As someone else mentioned, x = 1 already has meaning in xTalk Frank, et al: For the record, I'm not just waxing theoretical here: look through the handlers in any component of Serendipity Library and you will find statements were I use x = 1 [or more likely x is 1, but syntactically

Re: Revolution IS rock-solid

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
With a minor isolated exception (bugzilla'd), I have never seen garbage show up in a string value. That is blue-ribbon. Dar Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Dan Shafer
On Feb 10, 2004, at 5:29 PM, Frank Leahy wrote: On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 01:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Supporting JavaScript is an interesting idea. I probably wouldn't used it, but I wonder if it would bring others to Revolution. And the new Director supports JavaScript

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (rather long)

2004-02-11 Thread jbv
because we have a language that thinks like we do, not like the compiler does. Well, even if I somehow agree with the above sentence (because I more or less understand what it implies), I must confess I don't really like it... IMHO computers and languages DO NOT THINK. Only programers

Custom button behavior (was Windows appearance issues)

2004-02-11 Thread Ken Norris
on 2/11/04 2:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 01:25:46 -0500 From: Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Windows appearance issues snip Also I just rebuilt my own set of buttons and hard coded them the way I wanted with color and drop

RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Frank Leahy
Anyone know if RR has created a browser plug-in for RR? It would make a nice competitor to Flash, etc. -- Frank ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (rather long)

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
jbv wrote: The main point I want to make is that this discussion about introducing C-like syntax in x-Talk is totally pointless, especially if the only goal is to make Transcript look less amateurish... Amen. The strongest argument for the legitimacy of Transcript is an army of well-marketed

Let me just say

2004-02-11 Thread Thomas McGrath III
What with all of the 'long' arguments lately about scripting languages and their merit, I just want to say something. I just handed in my first REV project, A large instructional CD, and got mixed reviews but mostly good ones. Well, they gave me a months worth of changes and it is all due

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Frank Leahy wrote: Anyone know if RR has created a browser plug-in for RR? It would make a nice competitor to Flash, etc. http://www.google.com/search?q=%22browser+plugin%22+site:lists.runrev.comn um=20hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8safe=offstart=20sa=N In summary: Browser plugins offer no substanial

Re: Revolution IS rock-solid

2004-02-11 Thread hershrev
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 04:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A discussion started about the rock-solidity of Revolution Scott Rossi wrote: While I can't say I've pushed the engine as hard as the combined talent of this list, in my experience the engine's performance has been

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (rather long)

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
- do you really think that the current Rev / MC IDEs allow us to maintain debug scripts with hundreds or thousands of lines ? Of course not... But CodeWarrior (for instance) does... So in conclusion, I'm tempted to say that the language itself doesn't look amateurish at all (and DOESN'T need to

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (rather long)

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
The strongest argument for the legitimacy of Transcript is an army of well-marketed world-class apps made with it. ...with the Made With Run Rev logo in every About box.:{`) -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow

RE: Custom button behavior (was Windows appearance issues)

2004-02-11 Thread Ken Ray
I used to provide for standard HIG button behavior (sliding the cursor out unhilites, etc.) with the mouse (if the mouse is within the rect of me...else...), but in Rev it should probably be done with 'mouseMove'. I can't seem to get the behavior to work right with 'mouseMove'. Does

Re: Let me just say

2004-02-11 Thread Rob Cozens
I think even better than before. This is the beauty of Transcript. That simple. Bravo congratulations, Tom -- Rob Cozens CCW, Serendipity Software Company http://www.oenolog.net/who.htm And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (rather long)

2004-02-11 Thread Brian Yennie
- do you really think that the current Rev / MC IDEs allow us to maintain debug scripts with hundreds or thousands of lines ? Of course not... But Salut, JB, And my I say that I agree wholehearted with every word you wrote...until you ended with the statements I included above: 1. The stack

Re: Spooky

2004-02-11 Thread Ray G. Miller
Revers, The internet loves me. It loves me so much that it won't let me go! Any time I go on-line, * with Netscape, * with (ugh) IE, * with Adobe/Illustrator/Pagemaker/Photoshop looking for those needed files, * with MC/Rev I must re-boot to kill the connection! I've purchased IPNetSentry --the

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (ratherlong)

2004-02-11 Thread jbv
Ok guys, I should have written : - do you really think that the current Rev / MC IDEs allow us to EASILY maintain debug scripts with hundreds or thousands of lines ? BTW I know that very long scripts run without any problem in Rev. My point wasn't the execution of scripts, but rather the

Transcript has a HUMAN orientation

2004-02-11 Thread erik hansen
Transcript has a HUMAN orientation. French, Chinese, or Hindi would serve just as well. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

Re: Help Needed: What is the best way to display/edit arrays?

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Harrison
On Feb 11, 2004, at 8:49 AM, Dennis F. Kahlbaum wrote: I have two 24-cell arrays that need to be displayed to and edited by the user. I've tried a field with a vertical grid, but that doesn't always work properly (if you hit the tab key, the cursor moves to the right into a new column (bad), if

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus? (ratherlong)

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
jbv wrote: I should have written : - do you really think that the current Rev / MC IDEs allow us to EASILY maintain debug scripts with hundreds or thousands of lines ? BTW I know that very long scripts run without any problem in Rev. My point wasn't the execution of scripts, but rather

Re: Crash Recipe? (was Revolution IS rock-solid)

2004-02-11 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, hershrev wrote: on closeField set the caseSensitive to false find field Find Field in field list field focus on field find field end closeField on exitField set the caseSensitive to false find field Find Field in field list field focus on field find field end

where is www.livingactors.com for RunRev

2004-02-11 Thread erik hansen
We can't find www.livingactors.com = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ___ use-revolution

Re: Crash Recipe? (was Revolution IS rock-solid)

2004-02-11 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, I wrote: on closeField set the caseSensitive to false find field Find Field in field list field focus on field find field end closeField on exitField set the caseSensitive to false find field Find Field in field list field focus on field find field end exitField Now

Re: Crash Recipe? (was Revolution IS rock-solid)

2004-02-11 Thread Scott Rossi
on closeField set the caseSensitive to false find field Find Field in field list field focus on field find field end closeField on exitField set the caseSensitive to false find field Find Field in field list field focus on field find field end exitField Now when I press a

Re: Seamless Audio Loops in Rev

2004-02-11 Thread erik hansen
--- Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So yes, you *can* loop a sound, if the *only* thing you want to do in a stack is loop a sound. how about putting the looper on a seperate stack and sending the play command from your mainstack? = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org

Re: Transcript has a HUMAN orientation

2004-02-11 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Transcript has a HUMAN orientation. French, Chinese, or Hindi would serve just as well. = [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.erikhansen.org You are correct, but all of the aliens on Star Trek speak English (although it is due to the Universal-Translator). ;^P Now that would be a cool

Obscure Graphics Issue

2004-02-11 Thread Scott Rossi
For anyone delivering stacks with graphics on Windows 98... I just spent an hour with a client trying to track down a mysterious disappearing control composed of a couple of images that are hidden and shown when pressing the spacebar. It seems that this phenomenon occurs only on Win98/Me/Gold,

Re: Array question again.

2004-02-11 Thread Ray Bennett
Hi Kevin, Delayed because of lack of time and jetlag. In Santiago, Chile just now. Will return on Friday. I'd recommend you test it to see. I don't know what else to advise. My gut tells me that it'll work as you suspect without you having to garbage collect yourself, but I can imagine

Re: Revolution IS rock-solid

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 05:16 PM, Brian Yennie wrote: Although it probably shouldn't cause a crash, I think you are probably creating endless recursion here. My guess, too. There is a bugzilla entry (which is assigned!) for a recursion bug that showed up when script debugging was

Re: RunRev.com needs a Find

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 11, 2004, at 4:53 PM, erik hansen wrote: RunRev.com needs a Find Yep. instead you can do a google.com search with: your search stuff +site:runrev.com Or to search just this list http://mindlube.com/cgi-bin/search-use-rev.cgi -- Alex Rice | Mindlube Software | http://mindlube.com

RE: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Ken Ray
The village people would sign songs about us Oh, good... then I wouldn't have to hear them... ;-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

OT: Village signing [was: RR as a browser plugin?]

2004-02-11 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 2/11/04 5:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The village people would sign songs about us Not to beat a dead horse, but I have to add: In a previous incarnation I was a sign language interpreter. I have actually done this. Off topic: We have a Renaissance Festival here, and one weekend they

distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Doug Lerner
Say I wanted to include a text file, like a version history, with my standalone apps. 1. Is there an automatic way of having the file copied into all the builds' folders, or do I have to place them there manually? If so, I'll just keep the version history in a field or something... 2. When in

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Christopher Mitchell
perhaps he forgot to specify that they would be singing the songs outside your window... This is an interesting idea, though, and something I think would be helpful. As was mentioned, however, it is unfortunately a non-trivial request for some people to have to install any 3rd party helper

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of a rev engine plug-in, I want one that makes the following scenario happen i roll out a web page with a link to my rev stack that triggers a plug-in required the user accepts the plug-in is downloaded it launches and downloads the rev client app AND

Re: distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Doug, I use the : if the environment is Development then effective... else -- we are in standalone fix the default folder... end if This way id doesn't matter where I'm at. Tom On Feb 11, 2004, at 9:31 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: Say I wanted to include a text file, like

RE: distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Monte Goulding
1. Is there an automatic way of having the file copied into all the builds' folders, or do I have to place them there manually? If so, I'll just keep the version history in a field or something... This is in the new standalone builder. 2. When in the IDE I use the effective filepath of

New menu item supplanting old one

2004-02-11 Thread Doug Lerner
I added a Version History item to the Help menu using the Menu Builder. When I do this, the currently existing About menu item no longer shows up in the OS X File menu. If I delete the Version History item, it again shows up. Any idea what is happening? Thanks, doug

Re: distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Doug Lerner
Thanks, Tom. That helped. doug On 2/12/04 12:42 PM, Thomas McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, I use the : if the environment is Development then effective... else -- we are in standalone fix the default folder... end if This way id doesn't matter where I'm at.

Re: distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Doug Lerner
On 2/12/04 12:51 PM, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. Is there an automatic way of having the file copied into all the builds' folders, or do I have to place them there manually? If so, I'll just keep the version history in a field or something... This is in the new standalone

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Christopher Mitchell
So I guess then the distinction brower plugin implies it runs in a heavily partitioned area that keeps it safe from being able to be exploited to damage the system... that could still be useful but it is probably easier or at least more useful to build the browser into Rev than to build rev

RE: distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Monte Goulding
This is in the new standalone builder. Something newer than 2.1.2? Yes... not released yet ;-) Cheers Monte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: distributing data files with builds

2004-02-11 Thread Doug Lerner
On 2/12/04 1:06 PM, Monte Goulding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is in the new standalone builder. Something newer than 2.1.2? Yes... not released yet ;-) Well, that was helpful. :) doug ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

import tools

2004-02-11 Thread n . thieberger
I used to use the import/export tools stack in HyperCard and wonder if anyone has a similar tool for RR? I am trying to get a routine to import comma separated or tab separated text into separate fields in RR. thanks Nick -- Project Manager PARADISEC Pacific And Regional Archive for DIgital

New 'Transcript' category in DMOZ

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
The other day I took a few minutes to add some Transcript-related web sites to the Open Directory Project (DMOZ), and asked the section editor for DMOZ/Computers/Programming/Languages/ if he would consider adding a new category for Transcript. It seems the editor, Mr. Vladimir Merzliakov, is a

Re: import tools

2004-02-11 Thread Stephen Quinn Barncard
Nick, this is so simple, it would be an excellent exercise in coding.. you could do it in less than 10 lines of code... I used to use the import/export tools stack in HyperCard and wonder if anyone has a similar tool for RR? I am trying to get a routine to import comma separated or tab separated

Re: New menu item supplanting old one

2004-02-11 Thread Thomas McGrath III
I would check the number of menu lines in the property inspector first. Tom On Feb 11, 2004, at 10:51 PM, Doug Lerner wrote: I added a Version History item to the Help menu using the Menu Builder. When I do this, the currently existing About menu item no longer shows up in the OS X File

10 bugs in 2 minutes time!

2004-02-11 Thread MisterX
- debugging - the script editor adds a few dozen lines to the end of my script - you need to add a debug breakpoint, go in debug mode, abort, edit a change with a non-error that is reported as an error and voila... - debug breakpoint bar doesn't scroll as the script field - you end up debugging

RE: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread MisterX
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dar Scott Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 18:26 On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im not sure if i was clear, I want to convert HTML text in fld HTML to RTF in fld TEXT I could

Re: Andy's comments and positioning...

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: What is the advantage of inserting backscript as opposed to just start using? Aside of course from the difference that I can insert script of any object as a backscript. That's pretty much it. In a plugin, the natural place for the openStack handler is in the

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 11:32 PM, MisterX wrote: I could still be mixed up on what you want. i grab an html page off the web, display it in a field I also display the source and would like finaly to have the html styled text to be outputed to a styled text field. There isn't a 'styled

Re: OT: Village signing [was: RR as a browser plugin?]

2004-02-11 Thread Ken Norris
Hi Jacque, Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 20:07:01 -0600 From: J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Village signing [was: RR as a browser plugin?] On 2/11/04 5:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The village people would sign songs about us Not to beat a dead horse, but I have to add: In

Re: New menu item supplanting old one

2004-02-11 Thread Frank Leahy
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 05:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I added a Version History item to the Help menu using the Menu Builder. When I do this, the currently existing About menu item no longer shows up in the OS X File menu. If I delete the Version History item, it again shows

Re: Is Transcript's English orientation a plus or minus?

2004-02-11 Thread Dom
Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We believe programming should be like creativity, like drawing or writing, not like arcane. Bravo ! -- Vous parlez français ? faites un tour sur le groupe francophone ! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jetez un oeil sur RevoBlog http://revoblog.free.fr !

Re: New menu item supplanting old one

2004-02-11 Thread Doug Lerner
On 2/12/04 3:05 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:51 PM +0900 2/12/04, Doug Lerner wrote: I added a Version History item to the Help menu using the Menu Builder. When I do this, the currently existing About menu item no longer shows up in the OS X File menu. If I

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Brian Yennie
The following all works for me: ## render some HTML in a field set the htmlText of fld 1 to url http://www.somsite.com; ## get the HTML source put the htmlText of fld 1 into fld 2 ## get the RTF equivalent source put the rtfText of fld 1 into fld 3 ## re-render as RTF in a different field set the

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
I decided to go plain text instead of facing more bugs for a rather useless and unsupported feature... but thanks... -=- Xavier Bury Clearstream Services TNS NT LAN Server ext 36465 Voice: +352 4656 43 6465 Fax: +352 4656 493 6465 Brian Yennie [EMAIL

Re: OT: Village signing [was: RR as a browser plugin?]

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 11, 2004, at 11:41 PM, Ken Norris wrote: Did you ever write a tutorial for learning it on the computer? Not to butt in or anything: Sign Languages area *real* languages. Do you think you could learn German or Portuguese by watching some videos or a computer program? :-) I had a

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 11, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Browser plugins offer no substanial benefit not already addressed by using a standalone as a helper application. I too am a fan of web enabled standalone apps as an alternative to plugins. And I have read and appreciated your article about it.

Re: Styled text challenge...

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 11:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I decided to go plain text instead of facing more bugs I don't think you demonstrated any bugs. That may be my fault; I don't think I followed all. This may be a misunderstanding of htmlText. If so, then maybe you and

New altPlugin...

2004-02-11 Thread Chipp Walters
I've uploaded a new altPlugin called altFindPut at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altPluginDownload/Downloads.htm From the website: This plugin takes the hard work out of locating your 'put xx' into msg box debug scripts. Just click the button to load the script and process it. It will

Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 11, 2004, at 11:32 PM, MisterX wrote: I never had this many bugs in MC or HC or any other IDE in 20 years development experience... I dont think it's just me... No, it's not just you. Patience is all. Honestly entering 10 bugs into bugzilla would take not significantly longer then it took

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Richard Gaskin
Alex Rice wrote: standalone as a helper application. I too am a fan of web enabled standalone apps as an alternative to plugins. And I have read and appreciated your article about it. But you are making quite a blanket statement there. Why be so quick to dismiss the browser plugin which

English-like communications adventure with good man UDI

2004-02-11 Thread erik hansen
is the code in the code in MakeSMF.rev proprietary? Sorry, I didn't understand a meaning well. I want you to say by different expression again. A thing of specification of note-string(Cq Eq..) is one part of HyperTalk. I expanded it originally. I have not seen it it being used besides HyperCard.

Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!

2004-02-11 Thread Dar Scott
On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Bugzilla itself has some bugs and quirks, but many of us are using it on a regular basis. Post what problems you are seeing with bugzilla then maybe we can get you back on track. Or chat about problems here. Perhaps those are not

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 12, 2004, at 12:27 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Because unless it's bundled it will still need to be downloaded, and if one needs to download and install something it could just as well provide multiple window, menus, and other options not possible in a browser. Look at the number of

Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
- It does take more time per bug. - Last time I spend 2 hours entering a nice description for just 3 bugs and all got lost. NEVER AGAIN. Im doing this on my personal time and money investment and it's not worth my time or ROI. I know this is not the right thing to do but Im wasting enough

Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 12, 2004, at 12:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - It does take more time per bug. - Last time I spend 2 hours entering a nice description for just 3 bugs and all got lost. Maybe they were not lost. Read this post http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2003-December/ 026820.html

Re: 10 bugs in 2 minutes time!

2004-02-11 Thread xbury . cs
On 12/02/2004 08:34:52 AM use-revolution-bounces wrote: On Thursday, February 12, 2004, at 12:19 AM, Alex Rice wrote: Bugzilla itself has some bugs and quirks, but many of us are using it on a regular basis. Post what problems you are seeing with bugzilla then maybe we can get you back on

Re: RR as a browser plugin?

2004-02-11 Thread Alex Rice
On Feb 11, 2004, at 5:04 PM, Dar Scott wrote: What does it take to turn an app into a helper app? I have never made a browser plugin. Helper apps are different from browser plugins. A Helper App is just a browser preference saying when downloading this file type or MIME type, launch it with

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