Printing issue - from Windows, anyway

2004-06-10 Thread Barry Levine
I have a stack that has some image and player objects, and some buttons. There are 20+ cards in the stack similarly populated. When I print the cards in the stack, I hide and show some objects just for the printing and then restore them back to the pre-printing state. My script is a loop in thi

RE: Ugh. Bogged down...

2004-06-10 Thread Ken Ray
> One of the lines provided to me says: > > repeat for each line tLine in tData > > As I'm working with further 'massaging' of the grabbed text, > I'm playing with some of this code and this one left me > scratching my head (and there ain't a lot of hair up there!) > -- what is the function o

Re: Re[2]: Documentation on expressions??

2004-06-10 Thread sims
Hi Geoff, The best news for the documentation is that you can expect some serious changes for the best very soon, as Runtime Revolution has made a commitment to improving the documentation dramatically for the next version -- so stay tuned ! Also consider: European Revolution Conference 14-15-16 N

Re: Ugh. Bogged down...

2004-06-10 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Bob Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're right regarding the 'no turning back' issue. > Some of my employees > were trying to take me off into Java-land, others > insisted I needed to learn > a "more powerful language" and suggested everything > from C-sharp to D-flat. > They were pretty

Re: Ugh. Bogged down...

2004-06-10 Thread Brian Yennie
I was trying to understand what you're saying, below, about replacing the (cr & cr) with cr, and don't see where you're referring to this in the original suggestion I'm working with. It is likely I missed something (important). In the original question, IIRC you wanted to strip extra returns and

Ugh. Bogged down...

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Nelson
You're right regarding the 'no turning back' issue. Some of my employees were trying to take me off into Java-land, others insisted I needed to learn a "more powerful language" and suggested everything from C-sharp to D-flat. They were pretty funny to watch when I whipped out my old Mac and showed

Re: OT - OSX eye candy for Windows?

2004-06-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 11, 2004, at 1:00 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: When in doubt, consider the corollary: How productive would Mac people be with software using the XP look and feel but running on OS X? :) Yeesh. I'd hope it wasn't something I was expected to PAY for. ;-) -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rps

Re: Stupid question time (again)

2004-06-10 Thread Barry Levine
Bob, As one who has been bitten a number of times from developing on OSX, compiling for Windows, and finding the result not working at all as expected, I -always- move my stacks and resources over to my PC and do any final tweaking for that platform -on- that platform. Too many things are diffe

Re: OT - OSX eye candy for Windows?

2004-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Barry Levine wrote: One of my professors asked if there was a way he could make a Windows app look like an OSX app. He was referring to the shape and size of the app's title bar, the red/yellow/green widgets, and the shape and "glow" of on-screen buttons. He'd even like "metal" if that can be do

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Bob Nelson wrote: A HUGE Thank You to Phil Davis and Richard Gaskin for your response to "Not Shy..." Richard - I took your code, pretty much un-altered, added a progress bar to the page, and executed the same job on the same 140k lines of text. 25 seconds. Total. Needless to say, I nearly fell

Re: Capabilities: RTF editing, Graphs, flat-file database

2004-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jay Madren wrote: Why do you need to use a custom property? Couldn't you just do it all in a local or global variable? I figure you have a reason(s), but I'm not experienced enough in RR to know the ramifications of variables versus custom properties. Sarah may have her own reasons, but I often u

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Richard Gaskin
Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: No turning back now... ;-) just fyi, most of us rev users would consider 25 seconds to process 140 lines of text as very slow... Of course I never use progress bars. I've processed 2meg files of raw text mailing lists (loaded into a variable of course -- close to

Re: retrieving data from a sub-stack?

2004-06-10 Thread Robert Brenstein
I'm trying to get information from one sub-stack from another. The script below is from the sub-stack "productEvals". I want it to retrieve data from either the stack "RFP Importer-rich" or "RFP Importer-clean". It should involve a lot of going back and forth between the "productEvals" stack an

retrieving data from a sub-stack?

2004-06-10 Thread Rich Lague
I'm trying to get information from one sub-stack from another. The script below is from the sub-stack "productEvals". I want it to retrieve data from either the stack "RFP Importer-rich" or "RFP Importer-clean". It should involve a lot of going back and forth between the "productEvals" stac

RE: Alpha Channel?

2004-06-10 Thread Ken Ray
> Eh? When I insert an image into MS Word, crop it and/or > resize it, and then quit or go to another document or > something, when I come back the image is the same size as I > left it. Only in RR have I seen images revert to the > original size when you leave the document (or card) and then

RE: Stupid question time (again)

2004-06-10 Thread Ken Ray
Bob, Officially, the minimum you should work with is Studio, which (as the web page states): "permit running the IDE on a single platform for editing, but builds for every platform we support". (Cost: $299) Technically speaking, if you want to get the IDE on two platforms (say, Mac and WIndows),

Passing handles and information fork()

2004-06-10 Thread K
I have very liitle experience with RR and multi-processing. So, I would like to know if is possible (as with c++, python and perl) to pass socket descriptors to child processes? Is there a method to get the socket layer handle (this would allow a fork style operation)? Kevin -==-=-=-=-=-=

Re: Displaying Foreign Web Pages

2004-06-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The fundamental problem seems to be that Rev cannot read the Thai characters from a file or URL, but can display them when they are copied over from the clipboard. I have no idea if Thai is unicode formatted, but I assume you've tried setting

Re: Alpha Channel?

2004-06-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 10, 2004, at 8:28 PM, Michael J. Lew wrote: You CAN permanently re-size an image with only a little bit of indirection. Make the image the size you want, then make a new image and type these two lines in the message box: set the rect of image 2 to the rect of image 1 set the imageData of

Displaying Foreign Web Pages

2004-06-10 Thread revolution
(Apologies to those for whom non-European languages are not foreign!) I am preparing an application that will manipulate HTML text that is supplied in multiple languages. However, in trying to understand how this works in Rev, I'm kind of confused. First of all, if I have a web page written in

Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]

2004-06-10 Thread Marty Billingsley
Mark Talluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Marty Billingsley wrote: > > > Is there any other software that really works in this manner? > > Photoshop, for example, keeps track of the original dimensions > > so you can revert or step back in history. Web editing softw

Re: Alpha Channel?

2004-06-10 Thread Michael J. Lew
You CAN permanently re-size an image with only a little bit of indirection. Make the image the size you want, then make a new image and type these two lines in the message box: set the rect of image 2 to the rect of image 1 set the imageData of image 2 to the imageData of image 1 Now image 2 has

Re: Stupid question time (again)

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Brownell
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 04:04 PM, Mark Brownell wrote: On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 03:25 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: go for the Enterprise edition and quit whining... Heh, heh, heh... Bob Go for the Enterprise edition and really start whining... This means get the Enterprise edition because i

Re: Uhhhh... No? Yes?

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Brownell
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 03:06 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: I'm not sure what the answer to your retort should be. Your answer should be "shut up with the wise cracks you idiot." I was joking about disposing of HTML from a web page. Many here understood what you meant by your question. My proble

Re: Capabilities: RTF editing, Graphs, flat-file database

2004-06-10 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Yes, you could certainly use a persistent variable, either global or script local. The advantage of a custom property is that it can be saved as part of the stack and it can be accessed by any object without declaration. It is really a matter of personal preference - I tend to use custom proper

Re: Stupid question time (again)

2004-06-10 Thread hershbp
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 06:25 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: Okay, so I'm looking at buying in to "the Revolution." (Darn, they've got me doing it now...) If I want to develop but have it run on multiple platforms (Mac OS X and Win 2k or XP) but I'm only going to develop under OS X, do I want a s

Re: Stupid question time (again)

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Brownell
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 03:25 PM, Bob Nelson wrote: go for the Enterprise edition and quit whining... Heh, heh, heh... Bob Go for the Enterprise edition and really start whining... I found that developing the final version of a standalone on the native OS is best for creating standalone ap

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Brownell
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 02:50 PM, MisterX wrote: It's quite fast too without even trying! No progress bar required! http://monsieurx.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=142 and yes, I drive a batmobile and my gfriend is catwoman - no BS! ;) cheers Xavier Yeah, but I wanted a progress

Re: Problem

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Brownell
On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 02:03 PM, Mike wrote: Not to wish any bad luck on anyone, but I'm hoping someone on this list has experienced this problem and can help. Having read here that one could possible clear up the vague error reports by reinstalling RR, I uninstalled it,defragged, and r

Stupid question time (again)

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Nelson
Okay, so I'm looking at buying in to "the Revolution." (Darn, they've got me doing it now...) If I want to develop but have it run on multiple platforms (Mac OS X and Win 2k or XP) but I'm only going to develop under OS X, do I want a single studio or a studio 2 or will Express meet my needs? (T

Uhhhh... No? Yes?

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Nelson
I'm not sure what the answer to your retort should be. My problem is that there are some websites that spew forth data at an alarming rate that I need to pull the raw data back out -- and use it for other nefarious purposes. That said, having a way to clean the grabbed page and return it to somet

RE: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread MisterX
without wanting to plug in shamelessly... try the discrete browser... it cleans html from any source, strips empty lines, formats tables into tabstops strips unnecessary tags, images, and more... It's quite fast too without even trying! No progress bar required! http://monsieurx.com/modules.php

Re: last kw

2004-06-10 Thread hershbp
got it. On Thursday, June 10, 2004, at 04:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm wordering why when I'm creating a group with , do "group" &myVar and setting its name using set the name of the last group to "abc" and then when I'm creating another group the same way right after it , it renam

Problem

2004-06-10 Thread Mike
Not to wish any bad luck on anyone, but I'm hoping someone on this list has experienced this problem and can help. Having read here that one could possible clear up the vague error reports by reinstalling RR, I uninstalled it,defragged, and reinstalled the Studio Version of RR 2.2. I have the in

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 10, 2004, at 4:06 PM, Sannyasin Sivakatirswami wrote: just fyi, most of us rev users would consider 25 seconds to process 140 lines of text as very slow... How about the 140,000 lines he *is* doing? I think that is still pretty good. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net

last kw

2004-06-10 Thread hershbp
Hi all, I'm wordering why when I'm creating a group with , do "group" &myVar and setting its name using set the name of the last group to "abc" and then when I'm creating another group the same way right after it , it renames the first group with the second name meaning that both groups have the

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Sannyasin Sivakatirswami
No turning back now... ;-) just fyi, most of us rev users would consider 25 seconds to process 140 lines of text as very slow... Of course I never use progress bars. I've processed 2meg files of raw text mailing lists (loaded into a variable of course -- close to 20M lines) doing similar "clean

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob- Thursday, June 10, 2004, 7:57:23 AM, you wrote: BN> Okay, so has anybody got any pointers for existing code someone has used to BN> dispose of HTML from a web page? There have been recent discussions of this, so check out the archives for the last month or so. Meanwhile, take a look at the

Re: Can RevRun do this?

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Fred- Thursday, June 10, 2004, 6:30:58 AM, you wrote: FDY> It looks like there is consensus that I can do what I need to do in FDY> Revolution. I just need to find the time to do it ! If you find a good source of free time please post the url to the list, as I could use some myself... -- -Mark

Re: Transcript language design.

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Wieder
Alex- Thursday, June 10, 2004, 2:54:50 AM, you wrote: AT> We're mixing examples here Mark. My comments about language and operators AT> in particular string operators (from me) was about the URL "file:" & AT> myVar example, not the traditional assignment one. My bad. I caught that one afte

Re: HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 7:57 AM -0700 6/10/2004, Bob Nelson wrote: Okay, so has anybody got any pointers for existing code someone has used to dispose of HTML from a web page? Here's part of my reply to your Sunday message, which you may not have seen: At 11:05 AM -0700 6/10/2004, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto wrote: By the way,

Re: Need to highlight searching the list archives (was Documentation on expressions??)

2004-06-10 Thread Jeanne A. E. DeVoto
At 2:17 PM +0100 6/10/2004, Heather Nagey wrote: > I would like to suggest to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that they include a link to these mechanisms of searching this list within each of the emails that is sent to the group. The google link does already appear at the head of every digest. How many peopl

Re: Grid and Grab . . .

2004-06-10 Thread FlexibleLearning
An alternative from The Scripter's Scrapbook... on mouseDown put "10" into tGridSize # Adjust as you wish repeat until the mouse is up if the shiftKey="down" then set the loc of the target to snapLoc(the mouseLoc,tGridSize) else set the loc of the target to the mouseLoc end repeat end mouseDo

The Scripter's Scrapbook, addendum

2004-06-10 Thread FlexibleLearning
Apologies if you could not access the page previously posted... This link is in the correct case, should your browser need it: _http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbkFeedback.htm_ (http://www.flexiblelearning.com/ssbkFeedback.htm) Version 4 of The Scripter's Scrapbook is now in progress.

Re: Can RevRun do this?

2004-06-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/10/04 8:30 AM, Fred D Yocum wrote: It looks like there is consensus that I can do what I need to do in Revolution. I just need to find the time to do it ! No problem. Launch Rev, create the following handler, and run it continuously in the background: on idle global mySecs add the seconds

Re: Documentation on expressions??

2004-06-10 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/10/04 4:10 AM, Graham Samuel wrote: I see several people are already trying to help Geoff, but I wonder whether he is asking a question that's been in the back of my mind since I first saw HyperCard - is there a formal description of the language (in RR's case, Transcript) anywhere to be fo

Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]

2004-06-10 Thread Mark Talluto
On Jun 10, 2004, at 9:43 AM, Marty Billingsley wrote: Is there any other software that really works in this manner? Photoshop, for example, keeps track of the original dimensions so you can revert or step back in history. Web editing software, of course, doesn't touch the original image, but if yo

Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]

2004-06-10 Thread Marty Billingsley
> Frank Leahy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'd like it so if I wanted the history, I could save it myself - > > otherwise > > transformations should stay transformed. > > They do stay transformed, until one of two things happens. One, if you > change the image object via the fileName or import

Re: Re[2]: Documentation on expressions??

2004-06-10 Thread Troy Rollins
On Jun 10, 2004, at 12:25 PM, Frank Leahy wrote: I have suggested the same thing several times over the past year, using both the php and mysql online docs as examples, and there has been a deafening silence from the RR team. So no, don't look for user additions to the docs any time soon. (And

Re: Tasking (Background tasks)?

2004-06-10 Thread Andre Garzia
On Jun 9, 2004, at 5:16 PM, K wrote: I have read the Messages Mechanics stack and have a few questions. I realize that it is the accepted method of taking in the RR environment but I am wondering if there are not any simple cooperative multi-tasking constructs. I am loading a significant amount

Re: Alpha Channel?

2004-06-10 Thread Marty Billingsley
> [...] > > > Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. > > > Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size > > > you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? > > > >I find it useful: as with web pages, the default is to resize the image > >to its natural size

Re: Can I save stack when called from stub application?

2004-06-10 Thread RGould8
This is all fantastic info - - - now just so I understand, if I want the changes to get saved back to the server, I have to have Revolution FTP the file back up, as opposed to doing a set the filename of this stack to "http://myserver/path/scheduler.rev"; In a message dated 6/9/04 10:26:59 PM,

HOLY COW, BATMAN!!!

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Nelson
A HUGE Thank You to Phil Davis and Richard Gaskin for your response to "Not Shy..." Richard - I took your code, pretty much un-altered, added a progress bar to the page, and executed the same job on the same 140k lines of text. 25 seconds. Total. Needless to say, I nearly fell out of my chair,

Re: lockLoc [was Re: Alpha Channel?]

2004-06-10 Thread Frank Leahy
Graham, Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? Whenever you change an image (via fileName or import), the issue for RunRev is what to do about the image object's size (no

Re: Grid and Grab . . .

2004-06-10 Thread Roger Guay
Thanks, Jan. I came up with a similar solution about 5 minutes after I posted my question (Don't you hate when that happens?). I kept the Grab command on mouseDown and wrote a script on mouseUp that does the kind of math you propose. Works OK but results in a slightly different user experien

Re[2]: Documentation on expressions??

2004-06-10 Thread Geoff Caplan
Hi folks, Graham Samuel wrote: GS> ... I wonder whether he is asking a question that's been in the GS> back of my mind since I first saw HyperCard - is there a formal GS> description of the language (in RR's case, Transcript) anywhere to GS> be found, so that we would know **exactly** what an exp

Online Highscore CGI

2004-06-10 Thread Malte Brill
Hi List, I need an online Highscore System for the new Mini Game I am creating. (I will put the non-protected gamestack on my HP when it is finished) The CGI needs to generate a Top Ten List on a Webpage that will automatically Update. The Browser should only display the score and the name, but a

Re: Alpha Channel?

2004-06-10 Thread FlexibleLearning
>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:35:46 -0700, Richard Gaskin ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. > > Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size > > you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? > >I find it useful: as

Re: Can RevRun do this?

2004-06-10 Thread Fred D Yocum
It looks like there is consensus that I can do what I need to do in Revolution. I just need to find the time to do it ! >Certainly it can! In fact, I've been planning on creating a templatized >"PrintGadget" which does just what you say and more (next free time I >have that is!) F D Yocum Graphi

The Scripter's Scrapbook

2004-06-10 Thread FlexibleLearning
Version 4 of The Scripter's Scrapbook is now in progress. Following feedback, it will sport a new interface, include direct link Internet searches and support enhance Drag & Drop for folder and document icons. - What else would you like implemented? - What would make it a 'Must have' for yo

Re: Need to highlight searching the list archives (was Documentation on expressions??)

2004-06-10 Thread Heather Nagey
> I would like to suggest to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that they include a link to > these mechanisms of searching this list within each of the emails that is > sent to the group. The google link does already appear at the head of every digest. How many people feel that is not sufficient? Regards, Heath

Subject: Re: Would like to convert some very useful HyperCard stacks

2004-06-10 Thread Edward McCabe
> One of the professionals on > the list suggested a simple scheme where every > variable starts with "t". that sounds like tGaskin. uJacquie has recommmended compacting your HC stacks several times to flush the garbage out. Erik Hansen Actually it was tken tray! Ed ___

Re: Alpha Channel?

2004-06-10 Thread Graham Samuel
On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 17:35:46 -0700, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Why on earth does RR do this? It drives my students crazy. > Why do you have to lock the size of an image to keep it the size > you set it? Is this a feature or a bug? I find it useful: as with web pages, the

Re: Documentation on expressions??

2004-06-10 Thread Graham Samuel
At 20:14 09/06/2004 +0100, Geoff Caplan wrote: >Hi folks, > >Perhaps I'm just being dim, but I can't find anything in the >documentation about expressions & conditions. Keyword searching fails >to throw anything up, and there are no cross-references from the >control structure dict entries. Can any

Re: Transcript language design.

2004-06-10 Thread Alex Tweedly
At 21:03 09/06/2004 -0700, Mark Wieder wrote: Alex- Wednesday, June 9, 2004, 7:03:24 PM, you wrote: AT> Often. But that's not a counter-example; that's an example of using the AT> wrong operator and the language design not helping to spot it; not an AT> example of using the correct operator, whic

Re: Tasking (Background tasks)?

2004-06-10 Thread Scott Rossi
> This is not something that easily use the send in time construct. I > do not wish to waste the run-time a send in WAG requires. What is the > approiate construct to use so that several very intense repeat loops > will get equal time? I have been using wait for messages which did > not function