odd record sound behaviour

2005-03-22 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Hello All, A stack with a record-to-wav function is not recording -- at least, not the first time around. I'm using two button-scripts: -- TO RECORD on mouse up set the recordFormat to "wave" record sound file "junk rekord.wav" end mouseUp -- TO STOP on mouseUp stop recording end mo

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-22 Thread Robert Brenstein
In Hpyercard, the message box knew implicitely about globals declared and activated in any other script. However, in Revolution, also in MetaCard days, one always has to provide first the global command (eh, declaration). Msg box is just another stack, so such a variable is considered local unl

[OT] They are not sleeping..

2005-03-22 Thread Vikram Singh
http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=1&hl=en Best regards Vikram __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing lis

Making html links do something

2005-03-22 Thread Varen Swaab
Hello, I have a question about html links in text areas. I have an html page loaded into a text field and I'd like to make the links in the web page, when clicked, grab a text file from the web server to be parsed. I searched for info on this in the docs but didn't see it, does anyone know if an

Re: HTML Question

2005-03-22 Thread Varen Swaab
Thanks guys, this helps a lot. Var On 21-Mar-05, at 4:43 AM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi Varen, you might want to check the linkClicked handler and the linkText property. Assuming your HTML looks like this: http://www.derbrill.de/test.txt";>Click here You can have the following script in your field (

Dan Shafer's Revolution book question

2005-03-22 Thread Tom Vawter
I am reading Dan's book and working through his creation of a To Do list. The problem is I am unable to locate the calendar object, Shao Sean's Calendar Object. The URL given (www.runrev.com/Revolution1/developercentral/usercontributions.html) is no longer active. I have looked through the

Different platforms, different displayed effects ?

2005-03-22 Thread Robert J. Earp
Many moons ago I was a sorta scripthead with SC and had to move to ToolBook to keep the bills payed. I graciously accept all sympathy, thanks !! Anyhow, I am now moving everything to Rev and am having a lot of issues, unfortunately more so than going from SC to TB. Most of the problems is me

Text overflow property or function ?

2005-03-22 Thread Robert J. Earp
Does anybody know if there is a text overflow property of a fld, or a function, that can specify the number of characters completely or partially clipped from the fld ? By clipped I mean not displayed. Tnx, Bob... -- Robert J. Earp - Ashford Training Technologies* *18059 21A Avenue, South Surr

Re: Text overflow property or function ?

2005-03-22 Thread xbury . cs
On 21.03.2005 23:44:35 use-revolution-bounces wrote: >Does anybody know if there is a text overflow property of a fld, or a >function, that can specify the number of characters completely or >partially clipped from the fld ? By clipped I mean not displayed. > >Tnx, Bob... Hi Bob you can't reall

Re: Different platforms, different displayed effects ?

2005-03-22 Thread Klaus Major
Hi Bob, Many moons ago I was a sorta scripthead with SC and had to move to ToolBook to keep the bills payed. I graciously accept all sympathy, thanks !! :-) Anyhow, I am now moving everything to Rev and am having a lot of issues, unfortunately more so than going from SC to TB. Most of the pro

Re: Search Rev docs "at the speed of thought"

2005-03-22 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Jonathan Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Still no good.:-( I already had the stack in the same folder as "Revolution.app", but I thought, maybe it needs to be actually INSIDE the bundle (strange, but I thought ... why not? ... worth a try), so I moved it to the folder "..

Update 2.1 of "SearchDocs XML"

2005-03-22 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
The new version may be downloaded - for the time being - still from . Of the requested changes have been implemented: - New "copy" feature: Text can be selected in the fields on the right and left using the mouse. Then apply the usual copy-and-past

Re: Delete card Answer box

2005-03-22 Thread Thomas McGrath III
WORKS;;; on mouseUp answer "Do you really want to delete this card?" with "Yes" or "No" -- No is default put it into ldelete send doDelete (ldelete) to me in 30 end mouseUp function doDelete ldelete if ldelete is "Yes" then delete this card end doDelete On Mar 21, 2005, at 10:46 PM, Thom

Re: repeating a string

2005-03-22 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you use 'local' or 'global' to declare your variables, this is true, unless you specify initial variables at this point. However, implicit variable declarations (just using the variable name) causes them to be initialized to the name of the variab

Re: repeating a string

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
>What would this function do if handed a non-integer, or completely > non-numeric, value for "reps"? If it's a non-numeric it won't do anything. HC and its progeny is smart when it comes to variable...err...container handling. >Also, I am somewhat uncomfortable with the notion of > uninitial

Re: [OT] They are not sleeping..

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
I heard about this, but I hadn't tried it. MAN is that fast! Anybody tried Picasa or Google Maps yet? Nice. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little d

Re: Making html links do something

2005-03-22 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Look up the linkClicked message in the docs. You can use the put URL syntax to get the text file(s) from the web server. A quick untested example: on linkClicked theTarget put URL ("http://myserver.com/files/"; & theTarget) into myVar put word

OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Talluto
There is a small bit at MacCentral: with the following paragraph: "REAL Software noted in the REALbasic 5.5.5 release that of the 25 percent or so of its user base who are porting applications, 47 percent are porting Visual Basic

Re: repeating a string

2005-03-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you use 'local' or 'global' to declare your variables, this is true, unless you specify initial variables at this point. However, implicit variable declarations (just using the variable name) causes them to be initialize

quickest way to remove text between paranthesis ?

2005-03-22 Thread jbv
Hi list, I have a large variable (about 200 lines with 30 items in each) and I need to remove parts of some items (actually parts between paranthesis)... Is there a quick way to do that, with only 1 command line for instance ? Using regEx perhaps ? thanks, JB

OT? Apache SSL Stack?

2005-03-22 Thread Rick Harrison
Has anyone out there created a Revolution stack to get Apple Macintosh Apache SSL up and working quickly? The instructions at Apple don't appear to work for some reason, and there seems to be a lot of confusion about it on the internet. I think that someone who could create an Apache SSL setup st

Re: quickest way to remove text between paranthesis ?

2005-03-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
jbv wrote: Hi list, I have a large variable (about 200 lines with 30 items in each) and I need to remove parts of some items (actually parts between paranthesis)... Is there a quick way to do that, with only 1 command line for instance ? Using regEx perhaps ? Please test this thoroughly - it doe

Re: quickest way to remove text between paranthesis ?

2005-03-22 Thread Dar Scott
On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:26 AM, jbv wrote: I have a large variable (about 200 lines with 30 items in each) and I need to remove parts of some items (actually parts between paranthesis)... Is there a quick way to do that, with only 1 command line for instance ? Using regEx perhaps ? Yes. Look at the r

Re: repeating a string

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
> A scary example of that .. > I bet most Rev programmers would agree that > put myVar+3 into myVar > and >add 3 to myVar > mean the same thing (assuming myVar is an ordinary local variable). > But if myVar is an implicit, not yet initialized, variable, then the > latter works ok, resul

Re: quickest way to remove text between paranthesis ?

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
I'll have to dig out my old cdr() and car() functions I wrote for HC that handle this. While this is intuitively obvious, the code was a little convoluted to optimize the behavior for large lists. cdr and car are LISP functions that deal with lists (which in LISP are delimeted by parentheses). H

[ANN]Tao of RunRev, RunRev Wishlist, and RunRev Documentation Projects

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
As sort of a curiosity I started some blogs on blogger.com last week. After playing with it, I decided to start three projects: The Tao of RunRev (taoOfRunRev.blogspot.com), designed to document quirks, exceptions, etc. in RR that people might not otherwise be aware of RunRev Wishlist (rrwishlist.

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 7:05:45 AM, you wrote: MT> There is a small bit at MacCentral: MT> with the MT> following paragraph: "REAL Software noted in the REALbasic 5.5.5 MT> release that of the 25 percent or so of its user ba

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Been a while since I worked in Basic, but iirc, something like this: i = instr(myString, chr$(13)+chr$(10)) while (i > 0) myString = left$(myString, i-1) + chr$(10) + mid$(myString, i+2) i = instr(myString, chr$(13)+chr$(10)) wend It's hardly effici

Re: OT? Apache SSL Stack?

2005-03-22 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://developer.apple.com/internet/serverside/modssl.html What kind of problem did you have trying to follow those instructions? They worked fine for me. On Mar 22, 2005, at 11:49 AM, Rick Harrison wrote: Has anyone out there created a Revolution st

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: And, of course, there's no comparison when it comes to starting a new project from scratch. At least until you need to get out of the sandbox and craft an external. Mark, does RB support the creation of externals? I was under the impression it didn't

Re: repeating a string

2005-03-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mikey wrote: Another good reason for always declaring variables, and always quoting strings used as strings. I tend to disagree. This is similar to the argument that traditionalists in more conventional 3GL and 4GL's make for typing all variables, even if the compiler will do it for you. I

Is this possible...

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Friedman
Got a question... Is it possible to update the Rev engine in a standalone without doing a reinstall. Let me explain: I have a stack that I have made into a standalone. The standalone, when launched, opens other stacks that contain the workings of my application. Now, whenever I make changes to

Re: [ANN]Tao of RunRev, RunRev Wishlist, and RunRev Documentation Projects

2005-03-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mikey wrote: As sort of a curiosity I started some blogs on blogger.com last week. After playing with it, I decided to start three projects: The Tao of RunRev (taoOfRunRev.blogspot.com), designed to document quirks, exceptions, etc. in RR that people might not otherwise be aware of RunRev Wishlist

Re: Is this possible...

2005-03-22 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm... you could try using the script to somehow launch an external program and then shut down the running program in order to allow the external program to replace then relaunch it. That might be a way to do it, if you can figure out how to launch a

The paradigm of containers and self-referenced names

2005-03-22 Thread Dar Scott
On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:18 AM, Mikey wrote: A scary example of that .. I bet most Rev programmers would agree that put myVar+3 into myVar and add 3 to myVar mean the same thing (assuming myVar is an ordinary local variable). But if myVar is an implicit, not yet initialized, variable, then

RE: repeating a string

2005-03-22 Thread MisterX
in our last match of Alex vs Mickey > >>Another good reason for always declaring variables, and > always quoting > >>strings used as strings. > >> > >> > >I tend to disagree. This is similar to the argument that > >traditionalists in more conventional 3GL and 4GL's make for a thought in

Re: Search Rev docs "at the speed of thought"

2005-03-22 Thread Jonathan Cooper
On Tuesday, March 22, 2005, at 09:56 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: Sorry that you have troubles, which however seems to be normal with new creations, but is not an excuse for oversights. The stack works here - and apparently elsewhere as it should - both on Windows and MacOS. Which version of Revolu

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dan Shafer wrote: On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: And, of course, there's no comparison when it comes to starting a new project from scratch. At least until you need to get out of the sandbox and craft an external. Mark, does RB support the creation of externals? I was under the im

RE: var chk'r ?? Hold the phone

2005-03-22 Thread Stephen Barncard
Mister X! Tell us more about the Var Chk'r - is this something you wrote? Can't find it in the IDE... thanks stephen i like to work without variable checking at first. Before release, I launch the Var Chk'r... Somehow, it makes Rev scripts more solid due to checks written for level 2 errors... An

Re: [ANN]Tao of RunRev, RunRev Wishlist, and RunRev Documentation Projects

2005-03-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Mikey wrote: As sort of a curiosity I started some blogs on blogger.com last week. After playing with it, I decided to start three projects: The Tao of RunRev (taoOfRunRev.blogspot.com), designed to document quirks, exceptions, etc. in RR that people might not otherwise be aware of RunRev Wishlist

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:21 AM, Dan Shafer wrote: Mark, does RB support the creation of externals? I was under the impression it didn't. A Revolution external would be referred to as a plugin in RB. There are lots of RB plugins available from what I can gather from Google. -- Trevor DeVore Blue

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Dan- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 10:21:33 AM, you wrote: DS> Mark, does RB support the creation of externals? I was under the DS> impression it didn't. Er... I'm not sure... I don't think so. What I meant was that RB and VB have a way of calling functions that are in external libraries (DLLs and su

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/22/05 12:21 PM, "Dan Shafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > >> And, >> of course, there's no comparison when it comes to starting a new >> project from scratch. At least until you need to get out of the >> sandbox and craft an external. >> > M

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/22/05 2:20 PM, "Richard Gaskin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan Shafer wrote: >> >> On Mar 22, 2005, at 9:47 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: >> >>> And, >>> of course, there's no comparison when it comes to starting a new >>> project from scratch. At least until you need to get out of the >>> sandb

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Frank- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 10:00:23 AM, you wrote: i = instr(myString, chr$(13)+chr$(10)) while (i >> 0) myString = left$(myString, i-1) + chr$(10) + mid$(myString, i+2) i = instr(myString, chr$(13)+chr$(10)) wend Pretty close to what I came up with, although your implementation is more c

does Apple's QuickTime licensing affect Shakobox?

2005-03-22 Thread Erik Hansen
--- "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But be sure to check out Apple's licensing > policies for QuickTime > distribution. They are very explicit and have > so many rules and > restrictions that in many cases it is not > practical. I have a client who > had to give up the idea after

Re: The paradigm of containers and self-referenced names

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
> We need a word for the destination of "put" and "add". I think > "reference" can work. In other languages folks use LHS, but since the > LHS is on the right side in these examples, that can be confusing. generally this is referred to as the "result" > One of the problems with the paradigm is t

Basic Image Processor Stack

2005-03-22 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Mon, 21 Mar 2005 Ben Fisher wrote: >My Image Processor Stack features Brightness and >Contrast. >It's on RevOnline >User Name: BenJam >Stack: Basic Image Processor. Hi Ben, Congratulations! Your stack is impressive, certainly. :-) I'm curious to know why your stack closes the DreamCard pla

Re: [ANN]Tao of RunRev, RunRev Wishlist, and RunRev Documentation Projects

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
> I'm impressed by the energy and enthusiasm with which you've jumped into > to learning Rev, and returning the results of that learning to the > community. Knowing a ton about HC helps a ton. Of course it doesn't always help to identify issues that belong in the Tao blog, but hopefully scanning l

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Troy Rollins
> > i = instr(myString, chr$(13)+chr$(10)) > while (i >> 0) > myString = left$(myString, i-1) + chr$(10) + mid$(myString, i+2) > i = instr(myString, chr$(13)+chr$(10)) > wend > > Pretty close to what I came up with, although your implementation is > more compact an probably a bit faster - I may

Re: does Apple's QuickTime licensing affect Shakobox?

2005-03-22 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 3/22/05 3:00 PM, Erik Hansen wrote: > --- "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >>But be sure to check out Apple's licensing >>policies for QuickTime >>distribution. They are very explicit and have >>so many rules and >>restrictions that in many cases it is not >>practical. I have a

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Pat Trendler
Mark Talluto wrote: The VB porter appears to be generating new customers for RB. From this bit one can estimate that roughly 12-13% of their entire user base has come over from the VB camp. I am sure it has been written somewhere what their user size is. From their PR dept 15/2/05 - REALbas

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
> Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 10:21:33 AM, you wrote: > > DS> Mark, does RB support the creation of externals? I was under the > DS> impression it didn't. No. But there is a feature request for externals. > Er... I'm not sure... I don't think so. What I meant was that RB and > VB have a way of callin

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
> Rev: > - > put the effective textFont of the selection into tFont > if tFont <> the label of me then > select line (lineOffset(cr& tFont &cr,cr&btn "FontMenu"&cr)) of > btn "FontMenu" > end if > > or, if you like a one-liner: > > select line (lineOffset(cr&(the effective textFont of the

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Frank D. Engel, Jr.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 12% of 50,000 is 6,000. 13% of 50,000 is 6,500. So, about 6,000 to 6,500 users of RB are VB transferees; good for them. One less Microsoft program for them to deal with. Does anyone find this information useful? A much more interesting question: how

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Troy Rollins
> > Given that both RunRev and RealBasic can use tcpip sockets I think of the > products as complimentary. I prefer REALBasic do to it's ability to > subclass. Others I work with prefer RunRev. Some even prefer Filemaker. > Well, they are clearly more designed to be competitors than partners, bu

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
Hi Troy > > Given that both RunRev and RealBasic can use tcpip sockets I think of the > > products as complimentary. I prefer REALBasic do to it's ability to > > subclass. Others I work with prefer RunRev. Some even prefer Filemaker. > > > > Well, they are clearly more designed to be competitors t

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
> RealBasic - one line > > fontMenuButton.font = Me.SelTextFont > further, you can create custom bindings in REALbasic where you have one subclass talking to another. So you can get the result you want by setting the subclasses and 'drawing' a line between the two objects.

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-22 Thread Howard Bornstein
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:16:16 -0800, Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howard > > I spent a good bit of time testing this today, and I'm about as > bewildered as you on some levels. That may or may not be comforting. > LOL > 3. However -- and this is where it gets really mysterious to me

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-22 Thread graham samuel
Following this thread, started by Howard Bornstein and continued by Dan Shafer and others, it would appear that there is a bug in the RunRev IDE to do with the declaration and use of globals. I find this disturbing and would like to ask if anyone is attempting to flag this in the Bugzilla datab

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Keith- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 2:20:35 PM, you wrote: KH> eg. I have a listbox subclass that automatically finds data based on it's KH> name. True subclassing is one of the things I would most like to have in runrev. Someday. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Keith- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 1:58:21 PM, you wrote: KH> I find it interesting that the title is 'Analyzing competitors'. I didn't change the original subject when I first replied, but I'm with you in thinking of them not so much as competitors but just as different tools to get to the same en

Re: The paradigm of containers and self-referenced names

2005-03-22 Thread Dar Scott
On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Mikey wrote: We need a word for the destination of "put" and "add". I think "reference" can work. In other languages folks use LHS, but since the LHS is on the right side in these examples, that can be confusing. generally this is referred to as the "result" That is n

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Troy- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 1:32:43 PM, you wrote: TR> EditField1.Text = TR> ReplaceLineEndings(EditField1.Text,EndOfLine.Macintosh) Well, I had to do this in MS VB, not in RB, so I couldn't go that route, but it's nice to know that RB has this built in. Is there a similar syntax for somethin

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Gordon Webster
Re: rev and RB I like both languages, but I would wager that any rev user that ever attempted to write a math/science based applications in rev, quickly noticed certain significant shortfalls in it. The lack of a real array type or the lack of any decent support for drawing your own graphics, to n

Re: [ANN]Tao of RunRev, RunRev Wishlist, and RunRev Documentation Projects

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Mikey- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 1:14:22 PM, you wrote: M> Knowing a ton about HC helps a ton. Most of the time, that's true. Other times you spend much time trying to unlearn some HC things that are different in runrev. Er... at least that's true for me. There are times when it's nice just to ha

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors

2005-03-22 Thread Richard Gaskin
Keith Hutchison wrote: I prefer REALBasic do to it's ability to subclass. Others I work with prefer RunRev. Some even prefer Filemaker. Keith Hutchison REALbasic - Java http://realopen.org And yet here you are. Frank asks: Does anyone find this information useful? Entertaining, perhaps. I've seen a

Dreamcard URL

2005-03-22 Thread Scotty Moon
Hello, Newbie here. I'm creating a stack that downloads a specific url and puts the value into a field. This works fine when I'm developing in dreamcard, but in the player it does not work. My transcript for the function is something like: put URL "whatever.com" into field "blah" (or something of

Re: The paradigm of containers and self-referenced names

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
> No, in C the meaning of a statement depends only on declarations in the > context and its location. Whatever. It's polymorphic. Hand someone a single snippet of C, say a+b, and it is impossible for them to infer any meaning from it without reading the rest of the program, the libraries, blah, b

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: 12% of 50,000 is 6,000. 13% of 50,000 is 6,500. So, about 6,000 to 6,500 users of RB are VB transferees; good for them. One less Microsoft program for them to deal with. Does anyone find this information useful? From a marketing perspective

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
> > replace "bug" with "feature" in myString ? > in REALBasic I extended the string class so that I can someString.replaceAll("bug","feature") without extending it would be someString = replaceAll( someString, "bug", "feature" ) Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - db

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
Hi Mark, > KH> I find it interesting that the title is 'Analyzing competitors'. > > I didn't change the original subject when I first replied, but I'm > with you in thinking of them not so much as competitors but just as > different tools to get to the same endpoint. I don't think of runrev > as t

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
Hi Mark > KH> eg. I have a listbox subclass that automatically finds data based on it's > KH> name. > > True subclassing is one of the things I would most like to have in > runrev. Someday. I am sure it will. Keith Hutchison Balance-Infosystems.Com postgresql - mysql - dbf Foxpro - Delphi - MS

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Pat Trendler
This is definitely not very useful, but... I think you're overestimating the number of VB transferees. From RB's PR 21/3 The company also announced the results of survey data collected from 831 customers as they purchase REALbasic. Of customers who responded to the recent survey, 25% are using RE

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Ken Ray
On 3/22/05 4:06 PM, "Keith Hutchison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Rev: >> - >> put the effective textFont of the selection into tFont >> if tFont <> the label of me then >> select line (lineOffset(cr& tFont &cr,cr&btn "FontMenu"&cr)) of >> btn "FontMenu" >> end if >> >> or, if you lik

Re: [ANN]Tao of RunRev, RunRev Wishlist, and RunRev Documentation Projects

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
> Most of the time, that's true. Other times you spend much time trying > to unlearn some HC things that are different in runrev. Er... at least > that's true for me. There are times when it's nice just to have an > empty zen mind when you approach a task. Of course there are things that I immedi

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Talluto
On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Keith- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 1:58:21 PM, you wrote: KH> I find it interesting that the title is 'Analyzing competitors'. I didn't change the original subject when I first replied, but I'm with you in thinking of them not so much as competitors but

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Keith- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 3:12:47 PM, you wrote: KH> I am really interested in exploring the idea of having RunRev stacks talking KH> to RealBasic compiled apps, via tcpip. Shouldn't be a problem. I've got runrev stacks talking with MSAccess apps over sockets. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PRO

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Mark- Tuesday, March 22, 2005, 4:20:53 PM, you wrote: MT> This was not meant to be a Rev vs this or that topic. Agreed. I normally stay out of those. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
Hi Mark, > This was not meant to be a Rev vs this or that topic. I was really > trying to talk more about the marketing aspect of one app vs a > competing app. On this list, many are aware of both Rev and RB and > could make the fragile connection. Well thats what it turned into, someone laughin

RunRev and sockets.

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
Hi Mark, > KH> I am really interested in exploring the idea of having RunRev stacks talking > KH> to RealBasic compiled apps, via tcpip. > > Shouldn't be a problem. I've got runrev stacks talking with MSAccess > apps over sockets. Did you have hassles with MSAccess handling dead tcpip connections

Re: OT: Analyzing competitors

2005-03-22 Thread Keith Hutchison
Hi Richard > > I prefer REALBasic do to it's ability to > > subclass. Others I work with prefer RunRev. Some even prefer Filemaker. > > > > Keith Hutchison > > REALbasic - Java > > http://realopen.org > > And yet here you are. Not really, I maintain this subscription because. 1. The people on th

Re: Dreamcard URL

2005-03-22 Thread Alex Tweedly
Scotty Moon wrote: Hello, Newbie here. I'm creating a stack that downloads a specific url and puts the value into a field. This works fine when I'm developing in dreamcard, but in the player it does not work. My transcript for the function is something like: put URL "whatever.com" into field "blah"

Re: Global Madness

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
BZ'd as 2721 a few minute ago. Dan On Mar 22, 2005, at 2:38 PM, graham samuel wrote: Following this thread, started by Howard Bornstein and continued by Dan Shafer and others, it would appear that there is a bug in the RunRev IDE to do with the declaration and use of globals. I find this disturb

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
No doubt the *number* of VB refugees hanging out in RB-Land is an important number and would be even moreso to Rev which has, I suspect, *substantially* fewer users than RB. But a colleague who is a VB guru and HyperCard-knowledgeable and I spent about a month last year looking at what it would

Rev and Externals (Was Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software)

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
I'd like to second this notion and add that doing so is something I would not have expected to do even a few months ago. But I recently had a need to write an app for a client that called external libraries for encryption and a couple of other tasks. Ultimately, we decided we could not do the p

Re: The paradigm of containers and self-referenced names

2005-03-22 Thread Mikey
Well, I re-read your original post, and I don't see anything wrong with the way RR handles the two cases you cited - to review, if I have two handlers like the following: on mouseUp put myVar + 3 into myVar end mouseUp and on mouseUp add 3 to myVar end mouseUp Your contention is that th

Re: Rev and Externals (Was Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software)

2005-03-22 Thread Dar Scott
On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: I'd like to second this notion start using external "fabulousexternal.dll" As long as we have the external interface we have now, I'd rather 'start using' a library that uses an external. The library can do things that don't need to be done in an

Re: Rev and Externals (Was Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software)

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
That sounds rational. Dan On Mar 22, 2005, at 5:34 PM, Dar Scott wrote: On Mar 22, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: I'd like to second this notion start using external "fabulousexternal.dll" As long as we have the external interface we have now, I'd rather 'start using' a library that uses an

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Jesse Sng
I have my own theories about the best audiences for RR to pursue, and I won't burden the list with them because I don't get to vote anyway, but those abandoning VB isn't on my list. dan Those abadoning VB want to go to something that allows them to get their apps up and running with very little

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Dan Shafer
Back in the 80's and 90's, when I was a strong advocate of OOP in general and Smalltalk in particular, I continually ran into the obstacle I came to think of as the IASFBSIDHTTT syndrome: I Am So Far Behind Schedule I Don't Have Time To Think. Whether dealing with in-house or out-house (never d

Re: OT? Apache SSL Stack?

2005-03-22 Thread Rick Harrison
On Mar 22, 2005, at 12:20 PM, Frank D. Engel, Jr. wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://developer.apple.com/internet/serverside/modssl.html Frank, The instructions on Apple's Website about Apache SSL don't work. http://developer.apple.com/server/security_ssl.html There is als

Re: OT? Apache SSL Stack?

2005-03-22 Thread Brian Yennie
Rick, It's worth noting that these instructions are for Mac OS X _Server_ http://developer.apple.com/server/security_ssl.html While these are for ordinary MacOS X (consumer/client/whatever) http://developer.apple.com/internet/serverside/modssl.html mod_ssl is simply the Apache module (i.e. "plugin"

Re: Delete card Answer box

2005-03-22 Thread SB
on mouseUp answer "Do you really want to delete this card?" with "Yes" or "No" -- No is default put it into ldelete send doDelete (ldelete) to me in 30 end mouseUp function doDelete ldelete if ldelete is "Yes" then delete this card end doDelete Thomas J. McGrath III Great, that works

Re: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread Jesse Sng
Back in the 80's and 90's, when I was a strong advocate of OOP in general and Smalltalk in particular, I continually ran into the obstacle I came to think of as the IASFBSIDHTTT syndrome: I Am So Far Behind Schedule I Don't Have Time To Think. Whether dealing with in-house or out-house (never d

Re: Mac / ISO XML - dumb question

2005-03-22 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Op 19-mrt-05 om 16:25 heeft jbv het volgende geschreven: Hi all, I'm working on a website project using Rev cgi in which data will be sold online and available as xml files to be downloaded by customers. It seems that xml files suffer the same problem as plain text files : according to the client p

OSX Screensaver in Revolution

2005-03-22 Thread Howard Bornstein
There's been some discussion about whether it's possible to write a screensaver for OSX in Revolution. The difficulty has been to hook into the OSX screensaver framework. However, I thought it shouldn't be that hard to write it as a standalone application. So with that in mind, I've written OSX Scr

RE: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software

2005-03-22 Thread MisterX
> But a colleague who is a VB guru and HyperCard-knowledgeable > and I spent about a month last year looking at what it would > take to write a translator or even good conversion > documentation to enable VBers to switch to Rev. It is, as we > say in the software biz, a non-trivial task. The p

Re: OSX Screensaver in Revolution

2005-03-22 Thread Andre Garzia
Howard, please man, tell me how could you tap into the screensaver framework :D I know how to build full screen apps, thats easy, I want to know is how I tell MacOS X 10.3.4 to load my app when it needs to load a screen saver... I thought that with externals or maybe a clever plist hacking

Re: Rev and Externals (Was Re: OT: Analyzing competitors - In this case Real Software)

2005-03-22 Thread Andre Garzia
On Mar 22, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Dar Scott wrote: As long as we have the external interface we have now, I'd rather 'start using' a library that uses an external. The library can do things that don't need to be done in an external and can act as the sugar-coating glue to the external. Dar I usual

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