Hi guys,
Thanks for spending so much time on my question.
I sent a couple of posts during last week end, but
they never went through...
So here's a short reminder of what I had originally in
mind : I only wanted to know if there was a way to
benefit the speed of repeat for each item i in myVar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
answer Are you finished with the last one? If so, shall I clear
the header info? with No or Yes
This would confuse the hell out of me, I am afraid. What if I want to finish
and NOT clear the header? The questions are not mutually exclusive. It also
assumes
Scott-
Monday, June 27, 2005, 9:41:04 PM, you wrote:
SR Is this coming through?
Is anyone else having trouble posting to the list? Ever since the
server migration it takes me two or three tries to get a message
posted. I keep getting 554: relaying denied messages.
--
-Mark Wieder
[EMAIL
The same for me and all of us I assume.
Seems to be fixed now.
Le 28 juin 05 à 08:22, Mark Wieder a écrit :
Is anyone else having trouble posting to the list? Ever since the
server migration it takes me two or three tries to get a message
posted. I keep getting 554: relaying denied messages.
Sivakatirswami-
Monday, June 27, 2005, 6:31:36 PM, you wrote:
S drive. Point: these kinds of users are very easily confused and will
S just stop in their tracks if things don't seem obvious.
Yes. As should we all, I think. If things are ambiguous it's time to
stop and take stock.
S How about
Kenji, Stephen and Ron,
Thanks for all your input and suggestions. As a matter of fact, I tried
things like find string the text of me and find words the text of me
before, to no avail. As I mentioned in my first message, even the beep
command didn't work with returnInField, so something more
Hi all,
Here is a mail that I received from Chris: it can interest all of
them who want to run HC with Tiger but, unfortunately, don't have two
drives.
Début du message réexpédié :
I posted this about three weeks ago but the recent
round of questions suggests that it would be good to
Thanks all folks for the advices.
I have now been able to build a standalone by commenting the
savingStandalone in the main stack. In the IDE this handler works
properly without error but when executed by the standalone builder it
unexpected quits Rev. I am going to update the bug in this
on Mon, 27 Jun 2005
thierry wrote:
Was quite funny when i saw your emails yesterday;
because i've decided to play a bit with the
externals during last week-end.. and
after having download
whatever was existing on the subject, plus DevC++,
plus lot of scans on this list...
i did
Ok, i'll send you a HowTo explaining how i did manage,
with all the details for the C compiler and linkers... which was
the essentials information i didn't have, or partly
HTH, thierry
Just now, i've been able to compile and link one
external.
If you so desire i can send you the makefile
On Jun 27, 2005, at 1:57 AM, Robert Brenstein wrote:
repeat for each element x in y descending
Now, is that with keys in descending order or elements in descending order?
Dar
Sorry, Dar, I used element in the loose sense and really meant chunk
types: char, word, item, line.
When it
Mark:
Me, too!
Jon
Mark Wieder wrote:
Scott-
Monday, June 27, 2005, 9:41:04 PM, you wrote:
SR Is this coming through?
Is anyone else having trouble posting to the list? Ever since the
server migration it takes me two or three tries to get a message
posted. I keep getting 554: relaying
When it comes to the 'each element' form, you are right that it is
ambiguous at first glance, but would seem reasonable that sorting
applies to the elements themselves since keys are not explicitly
entering the picture. To get sorting on keys we would need to say
repeat for each line tKey
Maybe there was one better than Mark's!
GRIN
On Jun 24, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Jerry Daniels wrote:
I thought Tom Pittman did a very good job of maintaining the purity
of HyperTalk when he did CompileIt! Any future efforts could stand on
his shoulders in that regard.
Just
This is true. New machines do not ship with the Classic System
Folder. But If you have an existing Macintosh you can just copy the
System Folder over.
Todd
On Jun 27, 2005, at 6:34 PM, Jim Hurley wrote:
I had heard, from a distance source, that a new Mac with Tiger
installed will not
Friedrich
I faced the exact same thing when I set all my fields to unicode
textFont, which Chinese obviously is. I am uncertain whether you can
somehow use unicode in the simple returnInfield \ find handler,
because at the same time I decided to put the text of all card fields
into
Friedrich
I faced the exact same thing when I set all my fields to unicode
textFont, which Chinese obviously is. I am uncertain whether you can
somehow use unicode in the simple returnInfield \ find handler,
because at the same time I decided to put the text of all card fields
into
What's happening??? I've unable to open the Revolution Home Page or Scripting
Conference page the last couple days!! I keep getting Connection refused
message.
Anyone else having the same problem and/or know what the problem is??
Thanks in Advance and TAKE CARE,
Ralph
\
Quoting Ralph R. Forehand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What's happening??? I've unable to open the Revolution Home Page or Scripting
Conference page the last couple days!! I keep getting Connection refused
message.
Anyone else having the same problem and/or know what the problem is??
I cant get
Problem gone!! I'm finally getting the Revolution home page again.
Ralph
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Quoting Ralph R. Forehand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What's happening??? I've unable to open the Revolution Home Page or
Scripting
Conference page the last couple days!! I keep getting Connection
Message: 14
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:22:11 -0400
From: Jon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: images
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Jim:
Thanks so much for the handler, but 1) it
What I would like to see is a way to access the next or previous
element in a list independent of the repeat structure. We have
something similar in the offset function --offset
(findString,searchString,skipChars). The key is to have a concept
for a pointer of sorts. The pointer in the
Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 19:49:35 -0700
From: Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ANN Daily Crytoquote--my misspelling
To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
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Marielle-
Thursday, June 23,
Quoting Ralph R. Forehand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Problem gone!! I'm finally getting the Revolution home page again.
Ahh good, because I misread your post and thought you meant revonline via the
IDE.
Cheers
bob
Ralph
---
Quoting Ralph R. Forehand [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Todd and Jim,
To be more precise, I was told that you can't install an OS 9.2.2
system folder on any partition where Tiger (or any OS X system) is
already installed.
It does not work: OS 9 must be installed first or installed on
another disk or partition...
At the very worst you have to
Richard-
Monday, June 27, 2005, 11:15:23 PM, you wrote:
RG Do you can to clear the header?
I figured you were maybe speaking a patois here, so I tried various
translations in Google:
English to German and back again:
Do you preserve, in order to delete the heading?
English to Spanish and
When an uninstaller (such as those commonly included with Win
installations made with InstallShield or WiseInstall) run, it can copy
itself to the user's Temp folder and run from there, so that it can do a
complete deletion of the items in the application's folder.
But can I delete it from
Mark Wieder wrote:
Richard-
Monday, June 27, 2005, 11:15:23 PM, you wrote:
RG Do you can to clear the header?
I figured you were maybe speaking a patois here, so I tried various
translations in Google:
English to German and back again:
Do you preserve, in order to delete the heading?
On Windows, hmmm... maybe the uninstaller could create a 'delete file
xyz' .bat file that runs shortly after the uninstaller closes? But
offhand I don't know how to schedule a task on Windows.
HTH -
Phil Davis
Richard Gaskin wrote:
When an uninstaller (such as those commonly included with
I can't say what the general case might be, but I *can* report that I
merely copied an old System Folder from a Classic install on OS X
10.3 to my Tiger drive after installation and it seems to work fine.
I don't use it often and I surely don't push it around much, but it
hasn't crashed,
Dear Paul,
Thanks for your feedback. The problem with describing a set of very simple
manual operations is that when you write the details down, it seems very
complicated. We have all had the experience of trying to learn how to
operate a new VCR for example using the manual! In fact, my
Hi all, can anybody point me to the sqlite external site?
Hershel Fisch
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Hi Dan,
I did not try it myself.
This assertion came from authorised Apple Computer France guys I know
since many years.
So, they may be wrong or too careful :-)
Le 28 juin 05 à 18:52, Dan Shafer a écrit :
I can't say what the general case might be, but I *can* report that
I merely copied
On Jun 28, 2005, at 12:20 AM, jbv wrote:
So here's a short reminder of what I had originally in
mind : I only wanted to know if there was a way to
benefit the speed of repeat for each item i in myVar
(or each line or each char...) while reading items
in reverse order...
Looks like I took the
Since this seems to have changed, can we get a new subject on this? --
Dar
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Greetings runrev gurusIt seems I'm finding lots of little
*nuances* lately and I appreciate your patience with my emails.
I've been using the following code to open a stack from within a
another stack:
go to stack /substack as topLevel
and the code has worked as expected in
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:
In my readings 'round the Net it seems acceptable to just leave the old
uninstaller in the Temp folder until the next time the user cleans that
folder out, but that doesn't feel proper to me.
Is there a way for an app to delete itself? Or to use some
All,
Properties of Objects Version 4.1 is a quick reference guide for both
showing which built-in properties are returned by the properties
property for each type of object and quickly indexing into the
Revolution Transcript Dictionary stack to display the definitions.
You can download
Eric Chatonet wrote:
This assertion came from authorised Apple Computer France guys
A little industry humor:
Q: What's the difference between a used car salesman
and a computer salesman?
A: The car salesman knows when he's lying.
:)
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Fourth World Media
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/altSQLiteCover/default.htm
Hi Hershel,
FYI, The sale's supposed to be over, but I'll let it go one more day.
It's off tomorrow.
best,
Chipp
Hershel Fisch wrote:
Hi all, can anybody point me to the sqlite external site?
Hershel Fisch
Dear All,
My original e-mail suggesting how the Rev editor could be reviewed is
obviously open to misinterpretation, so I think a summary of a few points
would help.
1. Obviously, debugging the existing Rev editor is important.
It gets confused far too often.
2. It could well be simplified by
Hi Bob,
Thanks for your thoughts. As one who used to use the VBscript editor, I
can offer these observations:
1) Ever since HyperCard first was released, the script editor
'auto-formatted' the scripts. Users are used to this. In fact, when I
first started using VBscript, I saw where the
I agree with Bob. The editor that comes with Delphi has worked
correctly for years and years, and functions more or less as he
described the VB editor to work. There is no reason why we should have
to work with an editor with the current set of bugs.
Jon
Bob Warren wrote:
Dear Paul,
Jon,
There are actually two issues here:
1. I agree that there are significant bugs in the debugger/script
editor/variable watcher; these should be fixed.
2. I disagree with changes to the interface of the script editor. It works
quickly and intuitively.
Paul Looney
On 6/27/05, Ron Noice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've run into a problem in 2.6 that caused me to lose everything since the=
previous save. Twice! Which just goes to show ya -- it takes repetition to=
teach an old dog new tricks. Very likely I'm the only twit who would=
actually follow the
Chipp:
See comments embedded below
Chipp Walters wrote:
Hi Bob,
Thanks for your thoughts. As one who used to use the VBscript editor,
I can offer these observations:
1) Ever since HyperCard first was released, the script editor
'auto-formatted' the scripts. Users are used to this. In
Paul:
Total disagreement. The manual auto-indent features (that work while
entering text, not the feature that re-formats an entire handler) are
horribly buggy, when compared with the VB and Delphi editors. The UI
for the editor does not need to change: it can remain quick and
intuitive.
This is a resend... Don't think the first one went through.
Maybe this is a known issue, but just in case...
On WinXP, Rev 2.51, if you do an if there is a file
c:/somedirectory/somefile then... it returns false, even if the file does
exist. Change it to if there is a file
This is a resend... I don't think the first one went through.
I haven't thoroughly tested this yet, but it appears that, if from your main
stack, you go to another main stack on disk and delete cards on the stack
you opened, then copy the same cards back, then save and close, the file
size of the
Dear Chipp,
When I made my suggestion, I asked myself a question: What's better, a
simple system that is reliable or a more complex system that often fails?
Just try the example I cited in my first e-mail:
1) Type IFTHEN [enter]
2) Type ENTER again to make a blank line
3) Type END IF
e.g.
Scott Rossi wrote:
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote:
In my readings 'round the Net it seems acceptable to just leave the old
uninstaller in the Temp folder until the next time the user cleans that
folder out, but that doesn't feel proper to me.
Is there a way for an app to delete itself? Or
On 6/28/05 3:27 PM, Bob Warren wrote:
I think
that what is involved here is the old story that those who have used Rev for
a long time have unconsciously learned to avoid its potholes. Less
experienced users suffer more. Why shouldn't I be able to do an if-then as
I described above? I didn't
On Jun 28, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Now on to the last one: How can I script OS X's Disk Utility to
automate making DMGs with custom backgrounds, window rects, etc.?
Perhaps FileStorm http://www.mindvision.com/filestorm.asp could help
you here. I just browsed the dictionary
Jacqueline,
I have not seen the script editor mess up the formatting with this
simple example, but it does mess up horribly in some situations. I
actually have to rewrite my scripts differently because it gets
confused at times.
The main problem is when you have a situation like this:
As a newcomer, I may as well add my 2-cents here.
1. A global (not global variables but across the main stack and sub-stacks
or, at least, one stack) find/search/replace function would be extremely
useful, given that script can be in objects, cards, libraries, the stack,
etc.
As a newcomer
Oh, one more thing. How do you turn on line numbers in the script editor?
Jim
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if a then
if b then get c else get d
else
doSomethingElse
end if
It generates:
if a then
if b then get c else get d
else
doSomethingElse
end if
I get the same response (OS X 10.4.1, Rev 2.5.1)
Jim Bufalini wrote:
As a newcomer, I may as well add my 2-cents here.
1. A global (not global variables but across the main stack and sub-stacks
or, at least, one stack) find/search/replace function would be extremely
useful, given that script can be in objects, cards, libraries, the stack,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We could argue all month about style but, for the benefit of anyone
interested, here's how I do it:
OK, so, here is how I would like code to be formatted (not that I expect
it to change, just FYI).
if [short statement] then [short statement]
if [long statement]
J. Landman Gay wrote:
I am very used to unaligned scripts until I hit the tab key; that's
been the standard in all xtalks for almost 20 years.
I think the point is that it is technically possible to have editors
that provide the auto-format AND also allow one to only rarely have
1. A global (not global variables but across the main stack and sub-
stacks
or, at least, one stack) find/search/replace function would be
extremely
useful, given that script can be in objects, cards, libraries, the
stack,
etc.
Find Replace in the Edit menu allows you to specify where you
Oh, one more thing. How do you turn on line numbers in the script
editor?
I don;t think you can, but you can go to a specific line. There is a
btton in the bottom left corner of the script editor window, just
above the Apply button. Clicking this cycles through 3 different
states:
Jon wrote:
Alex:
Thanks for your interest. Rather than bothering the Rev folks,
I think you should bother the Rev folks - it's poor for RevOnline to
have dangling links to non-available stacks.
just try www.jonbondy.com/jlbimage.rev
Are you sure that's the latest version of your
Jon wrote:
OK, so, here is how I would like code to be formatted (not that I
expect it to change, just FYI).
snip
if [statement] then
[statements]
end if -- note I always line my ENDs up with the internal statements
There is a reason for this: if I want to clip the final line out, I
Howard, not to hawk my own product, but you can set Constellation
Script Editor (www.daniels-mara.com/products/constellation.htm) to auto
save and auto archive every so many compiles (appy). Once every 5
compiles for each mainStack you're working on, for instance. You set
the frequency.
Devin Asay asked me to post this for him, as he is having trouble
sending to the list (I suspect the new IP hasn't propagated to his
provider yet.)
He can read your responses, so fire away.
= From Devin: =
I need to send some data to a php page on a web server, just a short
In a message dated 6/28/05 3:24:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We could argue all month about style but
As I said We could argue all month about style and, knowing this list, we
will.
Putting end in line with the statements is inconsistent with the standard
xTalk way of handling
On Jun 28, 2005, at 4:20 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
I need to send some data to a php page on a web server, just a short
string like abc2. I've read all I can find on the post command in
the documentation, but can't figure out how to format the data so the
php script will read it.
Take a
Alex Tweedly wrote:
just try www.jonbondy.com/jlbimage.rev
Are you sure that's the latest version of your stack ? It has a
number of errors - resizeStack has a number of incomplete references
to the image ( image instead of img image), some variables are
inconsistently used in
Thanks Sara! That's good to know. Where are these kinds of features of the
Script Editor documented? -Jim
-Original Message-
From: Sarah Reichelt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Suggestion for
Alex Tweedly wrote:
Jon wrote:
OK, so, here is how I would like code to be formatted (not that I
expect it to change, just FYI).
snip
if [statement] then
[statements]
end if -- note I always line my ENDs up with the internal statements
There is a reason for this: if I want to clip
For reasons I should not disclose, I am accustomed to do a simple
Find-in-fields-in-this-stack with command-F, rather than command-M
followed by keyboard input of 'find whatever' Okay, it's not *way*
different, but it's a little different.
Several times in the last few days, I have typed
We could argue all month about style but
As I said We could argue all month about style and, knowing this list, we
will.
Putting end in line with the statements is inconsistent with the standard
xTalk way of handling handlers:
Well, not much to argue really. In C, there are at least 3
Several times in the last few days, I have typed command-f, the
word I want to search for, and return, before I realized that I was
unintentionally using the find and replace window. A couple of
other checkboxes were checked off, in addition to field text, and
the stack was not small. I
Sara or Chipp,
The link to the patch .../2005-February/050697.html is broken. Is there a
new link? By the way, that a GREAT search function. I was using the one in
the script editor and was having to memorize which scripts to search. Big
time and human memory saver! Now if I could just learn the
Does anyone here knows where to find the old Shao Sean libs for
reading mp3 metadata? I have a simple podcasting app here that would
benefit from that. Or any other way to retrieve the data.
Cheers
andre
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How can I view the scripts Rev uses to do what it does? I want to
check out the Find and Replace All for example... can I get in to see
those scripts or am I locked out?
Mark
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I can sum up a little on what I object to in the script editor by saying
that I expect an editor to do what I want it to do, not what IT wants ME to
do. Automatic formatting may well be an advantage in a number of respects,
but at what cost? What's the good of it if it makes the most simple
Mark Swindell wrote:
How can I view the scripts Rev uses to do what it does? I want to
check out the Find and Replace All for example... can I get in to see
those scripts or am I locked out?
Nearly everything in the Rev IDE is open for your perusal. You can turn
on an option in Prefs to
Perfect. Thank you.
Mark
On Jun 28, 2005, at 6:57 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Mark Swindell wrote:
How can I view the scripts Rev uses to do what it does? I want to
check out the Find and Replace All for example... can I get in to see
those scripts or am I locked out?
Nearly everything in
OSX:
I've been testing mp4 compressions with a rev stack to view multiple
movies on the same interface... setting the backdrop to black... to
ease distraction with QT Pro running on the side... OK so if I
activate QT Pro my movie appears on top of the black back drop in
the QT
See other thread on long file names for player refs... two days I
upped the ante on a stack file name (disk file name)
HPI-Daily-Generator_June-23-2005.rev
Now, when my managing editor finishes his work and tries to save
this, Rev responds that it is unable to create the temp back up file
It works for me, but you may still be experiencing problems due to
the Rev server change. Anyway, here is the direct link. Paste this
into your message box and press Enter.
go URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/altRevSearchFix.rev;
Cheers,
Sarah
On 29/06/2005, at 10:47 AM, Jim
I need to send some data to a php page on a web server, just a short
string like abc2. I've read all I can find on the post command in
the documentation, but can't figure out how to format the data so the
php script will read it.
My stack:
contents of fld uid: abc2
(I also tried [
I need to send some data to a php page on a web server, just a short
string like abc2. I've read all I can find on the post command in
the documentation, but can't figure out how to format the data so the
php script will read it.
My stack:
contents of fld uid: abc2
(I also tried [
Sorry if you're getting multiple posts from me. I seem to be having
the same problem others are having getting my posts to the list. I
have notified [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--original message
I need to send some data to a php page on a web server, just a short
string like abc2.
I should probably just stay out of this, but a few comments have my
dander up. First, distinguish more clearly between bugs and style. To
those of you from other backgrounds, x-talk is different. Many of us
like it this way. There are more important things for the developers to
be doing
There is a bug in the Find Replace when used on fields. Chipp has
posted a fix and you can find the details here:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-February/050697.html
It really doesn't take long and normally the Find button becomes a
Stop button when searching, but I
Sarah and Jim,
I believe the bug has been fixed in the latest version of the IDE. Sarah
is correct, the usual Find is VERY VERY fast and shouldn't take much
time at all.
-Chipp
Sarah Reichelt wrote:
It works for me, but you may still be experiencing problems due to the
Rev server change.
Any downside to the patch if applied to 2.6, as I just did?
Sarah and Jim,
I believe the bug has been fixed in the latest version of the IDE.
Sarah is correct, the usual Find is VERY VERY fast and shouldn't
take much time at all.
-Chipp
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Actually you sound very annoying and you seem to blatantly want to
attack everyone on the list with rude comments. It is getting quite
old by now.
I for one read the docs and saw that tab forces the formatting. So
maybe instead of constantly bitching you should read the docs.
tom
On Jun
Bob,
I understand both you and Jon are frustrated by the indenting of the
script editor and it's duly noted. It's difficult to switch paradigms.
In a quick search of all the back use-revolution posts, I could only
find 6 references to indent + script + editor in over 262,000 posts,
and none
Hi Timothy!
Timothy Miller wrote:
In spite of the welcome patch, find in the message box searches all
the field text in the stack almost instantaneously. The find in the
find-and-replace window, searching for field text only, in this stack
only, takes 100 to 1000 times as long. That just
Timothy-
Tuesday, June 28, 2005, 8:39:04 PM, you wrote:
TM It still seems to me that a stop searching button on this window
TM would be a welcome addition, unless it can be made to work so fast
TM that none would be necessary.
TM Is there something I'm not getting?
I can't imagine how you're
On 6/28/05 5:54 PM, Jon wrote:
And, BTW, I NEVER would have guessed that the tab key did ANYTHING
other than enter tab characters into the text. This is a great
example of a totally bizarre UI that you folks have become so used to
that you can't see the strangeness of it.
Not an excuse,
On 6/28/05 7:47 PM, Jim Bufalini wrote:
Now if I could just learn the best ways to use
the debugging features... Hmmm, what will I do with all the extra time!
We will be having a scripting conference on the debugger, though it is
quite a ways into the future (fall, I think). Still, keep an
I don't know Jacqueline, I found it right away since I wanted to become
proficient with Rev and naturally looked up the shortcuts.
tab seemed natural to me coming from SC and HC before that.
Tom
On Jun 29, 2005, at 12:06 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote:
On 6/28/05 5:54 PM, Jon wrote:
And, BTW, I
Thomas McGrath III wrote:
I don't know Jacqueline, I found it right away since I wanted to become
proficient with Rev and naturally looked up the shortcuts.
tab seemed natural to me coming from SC and HC before that.
I've seen tab used for indentint in a lot of editors. In fact, most of
No problem, it's the exact same script fix as the original. You just
patched it to be the same as it was.
-Chipp
Stephen Barncard wrote:
Any downside to the patch if applied to 2.6, as I just did?
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I forgot to announce that the log for the scripting conference on
Properties has been edited and inserted into its conference stack. You
can re-download the Properties stack to get the log at:
http://support.runrev.com/scriptingconferences
Sorry about the late notice; the server was down over
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