Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-10-21 Thread Bill Marriott
Not paper. The reports are provided via a secure web connection. But yes, it's a free crash analysis service provided by Microsoft for Windows XP and later that would seem to be a valuable way to diagnose program crashes. Rev apparently does not participate in it. Earlier in the thread I gave a

Re: capture still frames -- try Windows Movie Maker

2006-10-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Hi Erik, I did try this initially, but Windows Movie Maker does not natively open .VOB files (says they're unsupported). I have since learned that .VOB is nearly the same as mpeg2 and it's actually possible to change the extension to mpg and it WMM will open them. Ah, if I'd known then what I

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-10-21 Thread Heather Nagey
Dear List members, First, an apology from me: I just don't have time to read this list like I used to. I miss you all and the great conversations here, but I have to focus first on direct customer support and other activities. I'm still list mom, but I have delegated a certain amount to o

Heather Nagey . . .

2006-10-21 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Well that really is the nub of the matter - some of us (well, at least me) need to be noticed by Heather Nagey occasionally! Seriously, though:- I, for one, am extremely happy to know that Heather Nagey is "there", reads the stuff we write on this list, and cares. So, 3 cheers for the List-Mum!

Re: HyperCard - was Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-10-21 Thread Robert Brenstein
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Stephen Barncard wrote: You act like Rev can afford a staff of Beta testers in house all the time. They don't have the resources of M$ and I imagine the margins are thin. After seeing the supposedly well supported Hypercard go down, I'm very grateful Rev even exists for

Re: Heather Nagey . . .

2006-10-21 Thread Jim Carwardine
I've been reading this thread with some trepidation that it would turn into a war. Thankfully it has been a frank discussion and has served to clear up several misunderstandings as I read it. As a casual, semiserious user who is headed toward betting my company on creating a commercial Rev applic

Re: Reading Excel files on Mac OS X

2006-10-21 Thread kee nethery
On Oct 19, 2006, at 10:45 AM, Josep M Yepes wrote: Now I need to read form a excel file. The excel file is pre- formated with two columns data. It's a price list. Any tip to aboard the file? I'm developing on Mac OS X, but the application must be run also on Windows. I have an applescript a

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread GregSmith
As far as the simplest solution for authoring in "standalone" QuickTime format, whether for web presentation or anything else, given the available interactivity built into QuickTime, itself - Cleaner 6.5, (for Mac), and, I believe Cleaner XL, (for Windows) seems to be the ticket. Outrageously pri

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread kee nethery
On Oct 20, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Ian Wood wrote: On 21 Oct 2006, at 03:15, kee nethery wrote: On Oct 20, 2006, at 12:46 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: One thing we trylu need is a Suite of Tests that test a rev distribution for obvious bugs. This little stack could be executed and it would test thin

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Greg, Keynote exports to Interactive Video in QT with some preset format settings (Full Quality, Large, H.264, 800x600, 24 FPS)(CD-Rom, Medium, H.264, 400x300, 12 FPS)(Web, Small, H.264, 200x150, 12 FPS) but if you select Custom under the Formats Pop-up in the Export Drop down for Quickt

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread GregSmith
Thomas: I just did a little test run with Keynote, yesterday. All seemed to be going well, as demonstrated in the "preview" portion of the app, but upon testing the exported QuickTime movie, the interactivity was broken. Not only so, but the export process, itself took a lifetime to execute. T

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Okay, who still have Rev 1.1 on a G3 macintosh with 32mb ram and Mac OS 9? :-) Andre On Oct 21, 2006, at 12:27 PM, kee nethery wrote: Good idea. At WWDC the Apple Safari team indicated they use the slowest Mac that have to run all their regression tests, makes it easier to compare diffe

revDeleteFolder: nothing in Trash on MacIntel?

2006-10-21 Thread Bruce A. Pokras
Hello group, According to the docs, the revDeleteFolder command is supposed to put the deleted folder in the Trash: "On Mac OS and OS X systems, the revDeleteFolder command places the folder in the Trash." However, on my iMac Core 2 Duo, the folder simply disappears. Nothing shows in

Solution: combining PDFs using RunRev on Mac OS X

2006-10-21 Thread Bruce A. Pokras
Hello group, A couple of times I and others have asked about a way to combine PDF files using a RunRev script. I don't recall ever seeing an answer, so I would like to share the solution that I found. There is an Automator action under OS X that combines PDFs. Someone on an Automator mailing

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Greg, If I remember correcly, keynote quicktime export just picks your slides as if they were images and create a movie slideshow, it doesnt even respect timings and transitions. I didn't used keynote very much, just used it for RevCon presentation but I think interactivity is not suppose

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Dear Greg, Live Stage from Totally Hip Software is supposed to do Rollover's in Quicktime. Tom On Oct 21, 2006, at 10:22 AM, GregSmith wrote: As far as the simplest solution for authoring in "standalone" QuickTime format, whether for web presentation or anything else, given the ava

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Andre, That is not the case. Keynote does export an Interactive quicktime movie that supports timings, transitions, buttons, etc. the problem is that some setting will break this interactivity. It is in the latest version of keynote, for that matter so is the ability to export to Flash as

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread GregSmith
Thomas: LiveStage would be the "premiere" QuickTime authoring environment, but have you tried authoring in it? I find it extremely confusing, at best. As far as I can tell, even the simplest interactivity must be scripted in Qscript, which looks to me, like another javascript clone. This is gr

Re: Solution: combining PDFs using RunRev on Mac OS X

2006-10-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Bruce, You can always write a text script file to be run by bash and execute it thru shell, then it would execute all your concatenations in one pass and free you from the tedious 1024 limit. Maybe depending on license issues and dependencies, you can extract join.py from that bundle and

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Tom, I want that keynote version!!! :D The version I used on RevCon didn't even allowed me to export my transitions, all it did was to create a movie slideshow. Maybe I set something wrong. Now one trick question to you pro guys, if we have an interactive quicktime movie and we put it on

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Greg, No I have not and the Qscript does look very much like javascript so I can see what you mean. Tom On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:10 AM, GregSmith wrote: Thomas: LiveStage would be the "premiere" QuickTime authoring environment, but have you tried authoring in it? I find it extremely con

question about metacard stacks and cgi.

2006-10-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Friends, I am using a simple routine on a CGI lock messages go stack "alittlemetacardstack.mc" unlock messages to open a stack created by metacard on a cgi so that I can pull data out of it. This file opens fine in the Rev IDE but then opening on the CGI Engine, the result becomes "file is

Ann: Object Rendering & Modification Speed Test

2006-10-21 Thread Derek Bump
Object Rendering & Modification Speed Test Version 1.0 A utility designed to provide you with an interesting interpretation of the duration of time required for Revolution to create massive numbers of objects during repeat loops. - Choose any number of objects to test - View result in a Revol

RE: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-10-21 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Lynn Fredricks - Worldwide Business Operations - Runtime Revolution, Ltd wrote: >>> Runtime doesn't get these reports. The only way to be sure that the >>> team sees your report is to enter it into Bugzilla. That is the one >>> and only venue that assures the problem will be noticed. >> >> Just an

RE: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-10-21 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> > The core engineering team uses Bugzilla. If they have to spend time > sifting > > through other venues that's time they cant spend on fixing and > > featuring Rev. Engineering also reads the Improve list, but again, > > there's a limit > to > > the amount of time they can spend on that. > >

Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1

2006-10-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Oct 21, 2006, at 1:32 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Not paper. The reports are provided via a secure web connection. But yes, it's a free crash analysis service provided by Microsoft for Windows XP and later that would seem to be a valuable way to diagnose program crashes. Rev apparently do

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:15 PM, kee nethery wrote: How about one master stack that looks in a folder, lists all the stacks in that folder, Good idea. I'm thinking that could fill a selection control. then sends each one a command to execute it's tests, I am thinking of two methods, one whi

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Oct 20, 2006, at 9:06 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: do you have accurate timing routines there to share? something that could be called before and after a test so that we can measure it? The next release of darzTimer will include the ability to install darzTimer Library. Maybe I can up the "

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Ian Wood wrote: Rather than callbacks, I'd probably go for things being called from the openstack handler with results being written to a text file with the same name as the test stack. That way you just launch each stack and don't have to worry too much about

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Ian Wood
Qscript is what drove me to Revolution. ;-) LiveStage is an incredibly powerful tool, but the learning curve makes Rev look like child's play. And Apple's track record recently with breaking things in each successive release of QuickTime doesn't help. Anyway, having worked extensively wit

Re: question about metacard stacks and cgi.

2006-10-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: Friends, I am using a simple routine on a CGI lock messages go stack "alittlemetacardstack.mc" unlock messages to open a stack created by metacard on a cgi so that I can pull data out of it. This file opens fine in the Rev IDE but then opening on the CGI Engine, the resul

Re: Multimedia Authoring - Quicktime Dead?

2006-10-21 Thread Henk van der Velden
Ehm, I feel some need to correct this. I have been using LiveStage Pro for many years, and at least as far as the buttons are concerned, it's just a matter of telling which images (or movies) you want for each roll over state. Next to that there are many so called behaviors that can be atta

Re: Trouble setting a substack to topstack Help please.

2006-10-21 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dave Herndon wrote: Mainstack calls substack2 with the modal substack2, show substack2 commands. Substack2 is a bit larger window that pops on top of the mainstack and rup runs a different query to show a different view of the same data. Substack2 now calls substack1 with the modal substack1,

Re: searching list archive via Google gone wrong

2006-10-21 Thread Sivakatirswami
This is a bit OT, (pushed one of my buttons...) Is it just me that senses this?: that as Google is getting bigger and bigger I'm seeing it's indexing of any given asset on the net is getting spottier and spottier. There is one group of minds that is so entralled with this behmoth they believe

Re: CGI for Slide show

2006-10-21 Thread Sivakatirswami
OK, that's all very interesting. and I think I understand about half of it. but a) given CPU speeds of web servers are increasing witness: The dual Xeon processor on our managed dedicated server at ServerPath with 100 Megabit dedicated socket for our box, (no other box on our same C class n

Re: CGI for Slide show

2006-10-21 Thread Brian Yennie
Sivakatirswami, AJAX vs. iframes really depends a lot on your needs, but besides buzz- word compliance there are some advantages to AJAX: 1) The request is asynchronous, which has the advantages that: a) You can display your own "loading" messages easily b) You can manage your own err

Windows Error Reporting (was: Re: Open Letter to Rev: Quality Is Job #1)

2006-10-21 Thread Bill Marriott
Dar, > Oh, sorry, I got confused about the paper part. I think "folded" is what > did it. The "pressed and folded" comment was a reference to laundry. It's an idiom often used to indicate something is cleaned and prepared thoughtfully, as a household service might do. > According to the pag

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread kee nethery
On Oct 21, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Dar Scott wrote: On Oct 20, 2006, at 8:29 PM, Ian Wood wrote: Rather than callbacks, I'd probably go for things being called from the openstack handler with results being written to a text file with the same name as the test stack. That way you just launch

switch case question

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Swindell
I have a global variable gTimedTest Depending on whether it is empty or not I want to do different things in a handler How do I write this to make it happen with a switch control structure? switch gTimedTest case empty stuff break case not empty other stuff break end switch The above doe

Re: switch case question

2006-10-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 10/22/06, Mark Swindell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a global variable gTimedTest Depending on whether it is empty or not I want to do different things in a handler How do I write this to make it happen with a switch control structure? switch gTimedTest case empty stuff break case no

Re: switch case question

2006-10-21 Thread Martin Baxter
Mark Swindell wrote: I have a global variable gTimedTest Depending on whether it is empty or not I want to do different things in a handler How do I write this to make it happen with a switch control structure? switch gTimedTest case empty stuff break case not empty other stuff break end

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread Dar Scott
On Oct 21, 2006, at 3:19 PM, kee nethery wrote: Rather than callbacks, I'd probably go for things being called from the openstack handler with results being written to a text file with the same name as the test stack. That way you just launch each stack and don't have to worry too much abo

Re: Suite of Tests

2006-10-21 Thread Ian Wood
On 21 Oct 2006, at 23:04, Dar Scott wrote: On Oct 21, 2006, at 3:19 PM, kee nethery wrote: The advantage of a file is that you can have the master stack look in all the files sometime after it launches all the tests (and after they really should be finished) to see which tests suites

Re: Heather Nagey . . . (OT)

2006-10-21 Thread Marian Petrides
3 cheers for Heather, the best List-Mum in the world!! Marian On Oct 21, 2006, at 8:32 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Well that really is the nub of the matter - some of us (well, at least me) need to be noticed by Heather Nagey occasionally! Seriously, though:- I, for one, am extremely hap

Re: revDeleteFolder: nothing in Trash on MacIntel?

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Bruce, The docs may be considered wrong in several ways, where Mac OS X is concerned. RevDeleteFolder doesn't use AppleScript but the shell. It uses the rm shell command, which deletes files and folders and doesn't move them to the trash. To move a folder to the trash, you might use th

Re: CGI for Slide show

2006-10-21 Thread David Bovill
And as for Flash - you don"t need the development environment. You can download one of the various flash files that will play the slide show and just use it - you can even use open source (Lazlo) free server side Flash generation if you really needed to - but for most of your needs I"d guess you c

Re: Heather Nagey . . . (OT)

2006-10-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 10/22/06, Marian Petrides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 3 cheers for Heather, the best List-Mum in the world!! Marian Hear, hear :-) Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscr

Re: Shell

2006-10-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
Try this: put "#!/bin/sh" & cr into tScript put "pw=" & quote & tPass & quote & cr after tScript put "echo $pw | sudo -S - postgres" & cr after tScript put "/usr/local/bin/postmaster -D /usr/local/pgsql/data -i" & cr after tScript put shell(tScript) into tCheck -- do the command & get the result

Re: searching list archive via Google gone wrong

2006-10-21 Thread Mark Wieder
Sivakatirswami- Saturday, October 21, 2006, 2:58:48 AM, you wrote: > Can anyone confirm this perception? I would love to be proved wrong: it > goes to strategy, a) depend on a Google search link on your site, for > your own site, b) set up you own search engine (HT DIG). c) pay Google > the bi

how to understand the string returned by try/catch block.

2006-10-21 Thread Andre Garzia
Friends, when using a try/catch block to pick errors, I usually see stuff like this in the errorStatement: 91,81,2 77,81,2 223,81,1 241,81,1,getCountriesForm 353,0,0,stack "script" 219,31,36,getCountriesForm 499,31,1 253,27,1 Does anyone know how to make sense of it? For example I know that

Re: how to understand the string returned by try/catch block.

2006-10-21 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On 10/22/06, Andre Garzia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Friends, when using a try/catch block to pick errors, I usually see stuff like this in the errorStatement: 91,81,2 77,81,2 223,81,1 241,81,1,getCountriesForm 353,0,0,stack "script" 219,31,36,getCountriesForm 499,31,1 253,27,1 Does anyone kno