Trapped in a crash

2008-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, Before I write to support, does anyone have a solution for this bug? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6127 It would be great if I could use Rev for Win on my MacBook again. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering

Re: 2.9 bug?

2008-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Mark, I gave the ruler a quick look, it didn't crash in OSX. I assume it only happens while one is really using the plugin, not during a quick test. Do you have a field with a very wide column, perhaps? Does it also happen if you edit your stack in a different version of Revolution or

Re: [ANN] Visual Application Browser at RevLive!

2008-03-19 Thread Len Morgan
Any ball park idea on (non-attendee) pricing? I want to start saving my pennies. len morgan Jerry Daniels wrote: [Drum roll...] RevLive! Conference attendees will be among the first in the world to see and purchase (conference discount!) the Visual Application Browser in Las Vegas, Nevada

OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread viktoras didziulis
I would like to define a class, an object (the both with their properties) and methods that are not a part of graphical user interface or Revolution engine... Let's say I need an object City having properties: minLatitude, maxLatitude, minLongitude, maxLongitude, area, populationSize,

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi, I just don't get it. I never ever felt a need for OOP and I just can't imagine I ever will, using xTalks. I'd call xTalk rOOP (really object oriented programming) because xTalk uses real objects, like fields, buttons, etc. Why don't you simply forget about OOP? What does OOP have

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Viktoras, I have not tried this in Rev but I was thinking that you might want to mix the array with custom props so that the array set the custom props of the object. The array could build the object and it's properties. Just a thought. Others on the list will have more experience with

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Len Morgan
Putting the OOP vs rOOP discussion aside for a moment, I would love to have the ability to create new GUI objects. For example, consider a fader for a mixing board. It has a sliding thumb (like a scrollbar), usually a pan control at the top, perhaps a VU meter next to the slider to show the

Re: [ANN] Visual Application Browser at RevLive!

2008-03-19 Thread Jerry Daniels
Len, We have not set a price as of yet. There are a couple of dependencies. The best minds of a couple generations are working on it, however. Best, Jerry Daniels Daniels Mara, Inc. Makers of GLX2 http://www.daniels-mara.com/glx2 On Mar 19, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Len Morgan wrote: Any

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Len, I make new objects all the time. I just combine the components in a group and when I need it, I copy the group, by script, from a template stack to its destination. Setprop handlers allow me to treat the group as if it were a true, native object. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread jbv
Len Morgan a *crit : I suppose this could be done with a group (just about all of the required pieces are there and could be manipulated with xTalk) but I don't know of an easy way to store that object in such a way that I could drop it on to a card. Perhaps a future enhancement might be

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread viktoras didziulis
Hi, me too like rOOP, but I feel it is a little incomplete, just one more step. The ones that you call real objects are limited to user interface controls only. The thing I was curious about is a possibility to create an independent data object which is nor control neither a gui element.

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Mark Schonewille
Viktoras, The availability of OOP really doesn't affect the scope of applications. Nor does it affect the use of C++. You won't be able to use C++ anyway, you need to create externals for that, which you can do already. Last but not least, I can't think of any code more readable than

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Len Morgan wrote: Putting the OOP vs rOOP discussion aside for a moment, I would love to have the ability to create new GUI objects. For example, consider a fader for a mixing board. It has a sliding thumb (like a scrollbar), usually a pan control at the top, perhaps a VU meter next to the

Re: [ANN] Visual Application Browser at RevLive!

2008-03-19 Thread Marian Petrides, M.D.
Looks/sounds great. Can't wait to see it in action! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Trapped in a crash

2008-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Before I write to support, does anyone have a solution for this bug? http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6127 Have you installed QT 7.4.x? It is causing problems with the installer. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
viktoras didziulis wrote: me too like rOOP, but I feel it is a little incomplete, just one more step. The ones that you call real objects are limited to user interface controls only. The thing I was curious about is a possibility to create an independent data object which is nor control

Sound on linux no workey

2008-03-19 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I am trying to make my own Error beep handler for linux (rev 2.9 rc1), because i don't like the internal beep. First Rev wouldn't make any sounds at all (besides the internal speaker when using beep), so I reinstalled the ESD package, and added the sound mixer client. Now Rev makes static

Re: [OT] A Hardware wish...

2008-03-19 Thread capellan
Hi Phil, Phil Davis-5 wrote: A NAS device won't do it - at least not the ones I'm familiar with, but I haven't looked at them since I bought one a couple of years ago. Maybe they are smarter now. [snip] Jim Ault introduced me to StuffIt for automated backups (which I still don't use

How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Dave
Hi, I have the need to display columns of data in a field so that all columns are aligned beneath each over, basically just like a spreadsheet. I started to look at the table field (an object I have not used before). I looked in the user guide and in the online help but can't seem to

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dave wrote: I have the need to display columns of data in a field so that all columns are aligned beneath each over, basically just like a spreadsheet. I started to look at the table field (an object I have not used before). I looked in the user guide and in the online help but can't seem

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi Dave, Le 19 mars 08 à 17:24, Dave a écrit : I have the need to display columns of data in a field so that all columns are aligned beneath each over, basically just like a spreadsheet. I started to look at the table field (an object I have not used before). I looked in the user guide and

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: This RQQC request addresses this by proposing a new locked property for groups which would make them behave as a single control under the pointer tool, regardless of the state of the selectGroupControls global property:

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Dave
Hi, Thanks for this. I can't seem to get it work as documented. I have columns as so: column1tab column2tab column3 I set the Width of the field to 600, tabStops to 200, vgrid and hgrid to true. This displays 3 columns as expected, however, the middle column's data exceeds the width

New Drag-and-Drop?

2008-03-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Is there a demo out there that shows how to use the new drag-and-drop features of 2.9 that I missed? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Hi Lee Ann, I was just down at the City yesterday, running the AZ Tile plans through for a permit. First time I had been down there in years. I'm convinced, based on that experience, that they will be asking you for a lot more than you may think. The new code for example has all sorts of

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Sorry for my last post listers. Darn eyesight got in the way again. Thought I was replying to someone else. Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your

Re: [OT] A Hardware wish...

2008-03-19 Thread Phil Davis
Wow! Maybe I should look into Puppy. At RunRevLive I'll be talking about ways to use USB flash drives, so I'll think about adding this to the mix. Thanks - Phil capellan wrote: Hi Phil, Phil Davis-5 wrote: A NAS device won't do it - at least not the ones I'm familiar with, but I

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Richard Gaskin
Dave wrote: Thanks for this. I can't seem to get it work as documented. I have columns as so: column1tab column2tab column3 I set the Width of the field to 600, tabStops to 200, vgrid and hgrid to true. This displays 3 columns as expected, however, the middle column's data exceeds the

Re: OOP in Rev...

2008-03-19 Thread viktoras didziulis
this is the web page from which I started looking into MetaCard and finally came to Revolution website a few years ago. One more interesting thing Scot mentioned there is right before the paragraph about the completion of OO features where he wrote about possibility to output java bytecodes:

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Whew, that's good. I thought I was going to have to give you $450.00 Tom McGrath On Mar 19, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Sorry for my last post listers. Darn eyesight got in the way again. Thought I was replying to someone else. Joe Wilkins

Re: How to Use Table Fields?

2008-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dave wrote: Hi, Thanks for this. I can't seem to get it work as documented. I have columns as so: column1tab column2tab column3 I set the Width of the field to 600, tabStops to 200, vgrid and hgrid to true. This displays 3 columns as expected, however, the middle column's data exceeds

scroll bar - message box

2008-03-19 Thread -= JB =-
I am using Rev 2.9.0-rc-1 and have a question about the message box. Let's say I enter in the text line the following command: put the ciphernames this will put a list of the ciphenames in the message box which is what I expected it to do. But the area below the text line that the list is put

Re: scroll bar - message box

2008-03-19 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hi JB, This is like that since 'the beginning' but it would be a nice to have and in addition, it would be easy to implement it :-) Sure you can enlarge the window or select the text and go down but it's less comfortable... Fill it as a request in QCA. Le 19 mars 08 à 19:55, -= JB =- a

Re: scroll bar - message box

2008-03-19 Thread -= JB =-
Hi Eric, Okay - thank you. -=JB=- On Mar 19, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi JB, This is like that since 'the beginning' but it would be a nice to have and in addition, it would be easy to implement it :-) Sure you can enlarge the window or select the text and go down but

Something I did not learn in a day

2008-03-19 Thread Richmond Mathewson
New version of Textifier uploaded, which, Thanks to Eric Chatonet, loads as a palette. Richmond A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle.

more message box

2008-03-19 Thread -= JB =-
I mentioned in previous email that my message box was retaining a line of text. Jaque mentioned to delete the preference file and Eric provided code to clear the message in the preference file. After clearing it quits when I restart the Rev the msg box text line is empty. Now I am using Rev

Re: more message box

2008-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: I mentioned in previous email that my message box was retaining a line of text. Jaque mentioned to delete the preference file and Eric provided code to clear the message in the preference file. After clearing it quits when I restart the Rev the msg box text line is empty. Now

Re: more message box

2008-03-19 Thread -= JB =-
I am still pretty new to Rev so I did not know what to expect. I am sure it is somewhere in the docs but I don't always catch it the first time I read it. I wasn't aware of using the arrowkey for a history of last messages in the msg box. Thanks for the info! So should this be reported as a

Re: more message box

2008-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: I am still pretty new to Rev so I did not know what to expect. I am sure it is somewhere in the docs but I don't always catch it the first time I read it. I wasn't aware of using the arrowkey for a history of last messages in the msg box. Thanks for the info! So should this

Re: Sound on linux no workey

2008-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
Björnke von Gierke wrote: I am trying to make my own Error beep handler for linux (rev 2.9 rc1), because i don't like the internal beep. First Rev wouldn't make any sounds at all (besides the internal speaker when using beep), so I reinstalled the ESD package, and added the sound mixer client.

Re: more message box

2008-03-19 Thread -= JB =-
Hi Jacque, I have never left a bug before so I think I would like to pursue it for the experience to gain knowledge in the whole bug process. Could you provide me with the proper link. I might have signed up to enter bugs but never used it or I read about it etc. but a good link will save me a

Re: more message box

2008-03-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
-= JB =- wrote: Hi Jacque, I have never left a bug before so I think I would like to pursue it for the experience to gain knowledge in the whole bug process. Could you provide me with the proper link. I might have signed up to enter bugs but never used it or I read about it etc. but a good

Re: more message box

2008-03-19 Thread Eric Chatonet
Hello Jacque and JB, Le 19 mars 08 à 22:01, J. Landman Gay a écrit : -= JB =- wrote: I am still pretty new to Rev so I did not know what to expect. I am sure it is somewhere in the docs but I don't always catch it the first time I read it. I wasn't aware of using the arrowkey for a history

Re: Sound on linux no workey

2008-03-19 Thread Björnke von Gierke
Thank you for your hint, I forgot that the files need to be uncompressed. However, the sound files are uncompressed 16-bit PCM audio files (they come with the standard ubuntu installation), so that can't be the problem. Björnke On 19 Mar 2008, at 22:08, J. Landman Gay wrote: Björnke von

Re: New Drag-and-Drop?

2008-03-19 Thread Chipp Walters
Yeah. what he said. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a demo out there that shows how to use the new drag-and-drop features of 2.9 that I missed? ___ use-revolution mailing list

Re: New Drag-and-Drop?

2008-03-19 Thread Colin Holgate
On Mar 19, 2008, at 11:46 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Yeah. what he said. On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a demo out there that shows how to use the new drag-and-drop features of 2.9 that I missed? 2.8 help has lots of info about drag and drop.

Re: New Drag-and-Drop?

2008-03-19 Thread Phil Davis
Colin Holgate wrote: -- snip -- 2.8 help has lots of info about drag and drop. Where do you find the list of changes that are in 2.9? The changes are described in Change Log 2.9.0-rc-1.txt which you can save early in Rev's Check for updates process (when it actually finds an update). Here's

Re: New Drag-and-Drop?

2008-03-19 Thread Phil Davis
I just discovered this - the same info is also available in the Engine Change Log.txt file, located in the same folder as the Revolution app. You don't have to do anything special to create that file - it's included in the install. Phil Davis Phil Davis wrote: Colin Holgate wrote: -- snip