Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Kay C Lan
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: > So, the proable reason no one found my "QUESTION.rev" stack is that nobody > wanted to type a taboo name. :) > I believe the real reason is that you uploaded your stack to the OLD RevOnline whilst those th

Re: Math issue, isn't it?

2009-05-09 Thread Giovanni Cannizzaro
After re-read all ur replies to my question my doubts are still there. I don't understand why a simple math calculation beetween not-in-other-way-calculated numbers can generate round problems. Using the value function (i've tried put value(283.67-150.00-133.67)>0 instead of put (283.67-150.00

Re: Math issue, isn't it?

2009-05-09 Thread Mick Collins
Until the matter is finished being debated and a plan of action is decided on, a function could be used such as function numsAreEqual n1, n2, epsilon return abs(n1 - n2) < epsilon end numsAreEqual If your testing of the immediate comparison indicates to you that there are no roundoff prob

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Well, I don't know, but most of my programming ideas come as intuitive flashes: "learning becomes a Zen like experience" when all the reasoning has fled and my mind runs screaming through the halls of . . . Oh, sorry, I didn't know we had to pretend that computer programming was a logical 'scien

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Sorry, but I am part of the revolution (if, admittedly, only the boy who throws eggs at the Tsar) as I am signed, and paid-up for the conference, and so, in line to receive "4"; meanwhile, tootling around with 2.6.1 I am, of necessity, confined to the old revOnline. Of course, anybody who stopped

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread Pierre Sahores
Hi Ken, About the subject, see this (Linux only) : http://www2.sahores-conseil.com/insead/index_en.html Kind Regards, -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 6 mai 09 à 20:12, Kennan Ray a écrit : Excuse my ignorance, but how do you launch a stack with an "rc2

Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?

2009-05-09 Thread Thomas McGrath III
On May 8, 2009, at 5:33 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Stephen Cox wrote: So I search the Dictionary on "empty", got nothing; It's in there, in its own entry. You do have to make sure that the "all" category is chosen in the left side column though, otherwise the dictionary will filter results t

Datagrid: help with "EditFieldText"

2009-05-09 Thread David Bovill
I have a datagrid form, with a custom row template. I am having problems with a field that will not update the dgData when edited. The others work fine and their properties (ie "autotab" seem to be identical). I have named the fields the same as the keys in dgData. Having problems debuging, as the

[ANN] Rev Mentor Top Ten - video, charts, analyzer stack

2009-05-09 Thread Jerry Daniels
Revolutionaries, Here, friends, is a link to the Rev Mentor Top Ten: http://www.revmentor.com/revolution-top-ten-video-charts-and-analyzer-4 It's an analysis of the emails posted to this list. When you click on that link above, you will have access to the following: 1. Some charts showin

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Of course, anybody who stopped a minute and thought, would > have kept old versions of RR for "magical moments" such as these. > Which of course is a lot less time than what is wasted looking for a stack

Re: Math issue, isn't it?

2009-05-09 Thread Colin Holgate
On May 9, 2009, at 3:23 AM, Giovanni Cannizzaro wrote: Using the value function (i've tried put value(283.67-150.00-133.67)>0 instead of put (283.67-150.00-133.67)>0 as suggested by Scott Rossi) temporarily solve my problems but I think it's a Revolution bug so I make my bug-report 'caus i'

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Wouldn't it make even more sense to have a prominent link on the New RevOnLine to the Old RevOnLine? And vice versa? But that's too obvious! Joe Wilkins On May 9, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Richmond Mathewson < richmondmathew...@gmail.com> wrote: Of

Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?

2009-05-09 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, Jacqueline, Did I correctly understand what you put in your recent post : And if literal names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the statement because of the additional lookup. Do you mean that the statement : If field "MyField" = "YES" then ... e

Should this not be an error ?

2009-05-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
I have a line of script that *should* have read if the last line of t is empty then delete line -1 of t but I mis-typed it, and instead of the '1' key, I hit the adjacent key, and got a back quote (`), so I had if the last line of t is empty then delete line -` of t This script compiled

Another "should be an error" ?

2009-05-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
Here's what my script *should* have said repeat while the last char of temp is CR delete the last char of temp end repeat and if it has done, then it would have worked. But by mistake, I typed in repeat while the last chr of temp is CR delete the last char of temp end repeat (Note the m

Re: Datagrid: help with "EditFieldText"

2009-05-09 Thread David Bovill
Update - started working after quitting Rev and coming back to work - ah the magical wonders of a cup of tea :) 2009/5/9 David Bovill > I have a datagrid form, with a custom row template. I am having problems > with a field that will not update the dgData when edited. The others work > fine and

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Kay C Lan
On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > Wouldn't it make even more sense to have a prominent link on the New > RevOnLine to the Old RevOnLine? And vice versa? But that's too obvious! > Ah I don't think it's that easy. New RevOnline doesn't run in Rev 3.0 or earlier, so anyon

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
Like some politicians we have known. 2009/5/9 Kay C Lan > Reminds me of recent thread about > speaking accurately but still being ambiguous > - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com ___ use-revolution mailing li

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread runrev260805
Hi, a cookbook would be a good idea not only for beginners. Btw.: I am using THE SCRIPTER'S SCRAPBOOK from Flexible Learning as a cookbook. I am collecting all code snippets, i find usefull, in it. There are so many tricks, hints and code sample in this uselist, which i might need some time. So

Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Paris, Jacqueline, Did I correctly understand what you put in your recent post : And if literal names are not quoted, the engine takes twice as long to execute the statement because of the additional lookup. Do you mean that the statement : If field "MyF

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Devin Asay
On May 9, 2009, at 12:59 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: I said this before, but its why Rev needs a cookbook on the lines of Carla Schroder's great "Linux Cookbook" Steven Cox's queries illustrate the problem very clearly. Imagine a kitchen with lots of pots and pans and ingredients in it.

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Wait. I don't get this. You saying that checking if an unused variable is empty returns false? Does revolution put some data in a variable when created? On 5/9/09 2:44 AM, "Martin Blackman" wrote: > There is a gotcha to be aware of here. > > Checking if a previously unused variable is empty r

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Wouldn't it make even more sense to have a prominent link on the New RevOnLine to the Old RevOnLine? And vice versa? But that's too obvious! It can't be done. The two systems use different back-end databases, different log-ins, and a completely rewritten RevOnline stac

Re: Another "should be an error" ?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Alex- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 8:54:33 AM, you wrote: > Shouldn't this have been a compilation error ? Not necessarily. One of the wonders of explictVars is that the compiler will catch this kind of error for you. If you don't have explictVars turned on then you're left to your own devices wonderi

Re: Should this not be an error ?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Alex- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 8:31:33 AM, you wrote: > Shouldn't this be a compile error ? Same answer as the other question. If tracking this kind of error down seems like a pain then turn on explictVars and get in the habit of declaring variables. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Friday, May 8, 2009, 11:25:47 AM, you wrote: > how the engine works. I personally do not use explicit variables, I > never declare them specifically, and I have never had any problem. ...the first step in recovery is recognizing you have a problem... -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftwar

Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
I've run across something. Even with Strict Compilation Mode on the compiler doesn't throw out an error if it sees some undeclared variables. So... Local temp Put "1234" into temp Put "1234" into kemp The compiles misses this completely. Of course it works cause you can create variables on the fl

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Friday, May 8, 2009, 11:25:47 AM, you wrote: how the engine works. I personally do not use explicit variables, I never declare them specifically, and I have never had any problem. ...the first step in recovery is recognizing you have a problem... Bah. Don't sta

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Peter- Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 7:58:58 AM, you wrote: > Oh dear what a dispiriting thread. I haven't experienced all this stuff, Thanks to this thread I've gone back and loaded the latest rev 3.5 build onto my Ubuntu installation and find that it's much improved, to the point of having a usable

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Stephen Cox wrote: Wait. I don't get this. You saying that checking if an unused variable is empty returns false? Does revolution put some data in a variable when created? Sort of, but only in specific cases, which is mostly a side-effect of how friendly Rev's interpreter is and how it deals

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:39:27 AM, you wrote: > I've run across something. Even with Strict Compilation Mode on the compiler > doesn't throw out an error if it sees some undeclared variables. So... > Local temp > Put "1234" into temp > Put "1234" into kemp > The compiles misses this co

Multi-cores and standalones

2009-05-09 Thread Bryan McCormick
Does anyone know how or if multiple standalones use memory space or cores? I realize they are not multi-threaded or multi-core aware. But let's say you had five or six standalones running. Are they all in the same space, using the same core? Or does the system dispatch and allocate them? I am

Dynamically resize members of a group

2009-05-09 Thread Roger Guay
Can anyone suggest a way to dynamically resizing objects of a group as the group is resized? Specifically, I have a pair of lines who's lengths I would like to adjust by resizing the group they belong to. Thanks for your help. Cheers, Roger ___ us

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
So perhaps, on further reflection, we just need some sort of "caveat" dialog on the two sites, that let users know this problem exists when they can't find that for which they're searching. Would save the list having to "re-explain" this condition ad nauseam. I'm always looking for simplist

RE: Multi-cores and standalones

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Bufalini
Bryan McCormick wrote: > Does anyone know how or if multiple standalones use memory space or > cores? I realize they are not multi-threaded or multi-core aware. But > let's say you had five or six standalones running. Are they all in the > same space, using the same core? Or does the system dispat

AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread David Bovill
Anyone no where this file is from - it's been in "My Revolution..." folder for a while, is ti a rev thing or a GLX2 thing? Time for a spring clean - would like to throw it out :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: answer as sheet showing on wrong stack

2009-05-09 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Kay C: I figured that was probably an issue, but didn't take the time to explore and think it through. Sorry, Joe Wilkins On May 9, 2009, at 9:05 AM, Kay C Lan wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2009 at 11:03 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Wouldn't it make even more sense to have a prominent link o

e: Why Rev needs a cookbook ?

2009-05-09 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, I never invented a single thing - this I left to the real brainies. However, I inspected, copied, extrapolated, USED (unashamedly) other peoples code, and turned it to my advantage. So learning Revolution was not, and is not, my problem. There is so much brilliant code flying arou

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Humm I just compiled this and get nothing. On 5/9/09 12:57 PM, "Mark Wieder" wrote: > Stephen- > > Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:39:27 AM, you wrote: > >> I've run across something. Even with Strict Compilation Mode on the compiler >> doesn't throw out an error if it sees some undeclared variables

Re: Dynamically resize members of a group

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Roger- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 10:11:23 AM, you wrote: > Can anyone suggest a way to dynamically resizing objects of a group as > the group is resized? Specifically, I have a pair of lines who's > lengths I would like to adjust by resizing the group they belong to. > Thanks for your help. In re

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Ok I just created a new stack and put: local temp put "1234" into temp put "1234" into kemp And it compiles with no errors. Maybe I missed a checkbox someplace. Is "Strict Compilation Mode" in the Script Editor section the only option that has to be enabled? On 5/9/09 12:57 PM, "Mark Wieder" w

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
By the way, off topic a bit: Wouldn't "I" && "am" be the same as "I " & "am"? ((notice the space after "I" in the second example")). On 5/9/09 12:57 PM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > Stephen Cox wrote: >> Wait. I don't get this. You saying that checking if an unused variable is >> empty returns fa

Re: AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
It is a MySQLLite database file - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/5/9 David Bovill > Anyone no where this file is from - it's been in "My Revolution..." folder > for a while, is ti a rev thing or a GLX2 thing? Time for a spring clean - > would li

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Certainly should be the same. Isn't it? It is for me with 3.5. Joe Wilkins On May 9, 2009, at 11:15 AM, Stephen Cox wrote: By the way, off topic a bit: Wouldn't "I" && "am" be the same as "I " & "am"? ((notice the space after "I" in the second example")). ___

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Stephen Cox wrote: By the way, off topic a bit: Wouldn't "I" && "am" be the same as "I " & "am"? ((notice the space after "I" in the second example")). Yup. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com _

Re: Newbie question - how to check for a varible

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 11:15:01 AM, you wrote: > Wouldn't "I" && "am" be the same as "I " & "am"? ((notice the space after > "I" in the second example")). also the same as "I" & " am" ...and just for good measure... "I" & space & "am" -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 11:10:46 AM, you wrote: > Ok I just created a new stack and put: > local temp > put "1234" into temp > put "1234" into kemp > And it compiles with no errors. Maybe I missed a checkbox someplace. Is > "Strict Compilation Mode" in the Script Editor section the only

RE: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Bufalini
Stephen Cox wrote: > Ok I just created a new stack and put: > > local temp > put "1234" into temp > put "1234" into kemp > > And it compiles with no errors. Maybe I missed a checkbox someplace. Is > "Strict Compilation Mode" in the Script Editor section the only option > that > has to be enabled

RE: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Bufalini
Mark Wieder wrote: > OK - I think I see what you're doing. If I just put that into a script > then I can compile it with or without strict compilation mode. But > then there's nothing to execute. I'm not really clear on what is > getting compiled at that point. I think as far as the compiler is

Re: [ANN] Cryptography Library 1.0.0

2009-05-09 Thread Shao Sean
Thanks to Mark Smith for pointing this out (off-list) but it seems there is an issue with the SHA-1 and Intel-based Macs. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your su

Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Stephen- Friday, May 8, 2009, 1:08:34 PM, you wrote: > The manual is good, but has no reference to other languages. It would help > get my head out of OOP into Revolution. Don't get your head *too* far out of OOP. Revolution's got encapsulation, inheritance of a sort, and polymorphism is up to y

Multi-cores and standalones

2009-05-09 Thread Bryan McCormick
Thanks Jim, that's issue 1 out of the way. Now for the mystery of how apps are handled in multicore environments. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscriptio

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Judy Perry
What was the url to that beast again? Judy On Sat, 9 May 2009, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Of course if any one wants to go to work on my moribund RunRev learning wiki . . . ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit

Re: Another newb question - How to you clear a field?

2009-05-09 Thread Jerry J
From: "J. Landman Gay" Yes, that is what I meant. But Dave Cragg disproved my theory, since apparently the engine works at the same speed in either case (but I am still having trouble believing it; it seems counter-intuitive.) I think it is better scripting form to quote literals in any case

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Funny, I've never declared a variable in Runtime Revolution; I thought that was something that went out with PASCAL: even my BBC doesn't require me to that in BBC BASIC. I remember feeling 'odd' when I got my BBC (ah, all those years ago, out in the desert) that BBC BASIC didn't even need the LE

Newbie Question 5 of N

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Just found 'strict compilation' in my trial of RR 3.5; but couldn't find anything about what it actually is (which makes Stephen Cox, who is passing himself off as a Newbie, look much longer in the tooth than I am). So; what is 'strict compilation', and why should we be interested? __

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
http://richmondsrevolution.pbworks.com/FrontPage mind you; the word 'beast' is apposite, in the sense that it resembles something big, ungainly and of little apparent use, at least at present. Judy Perry wrote: What was the url to that beast again? Judy On Sat, 9 May 2009, Richmond Mathewson

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
However, in the light of questions from the likes of Stephen Cox, I for one won't even consider touching that Wiki until after the conference, when I should be the proud owner of something 'slightly' newer than RevMedia 2.9. I do hope that with the launch of '4' the central GUI will remain the sam

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
2009/5/9 Richmond Mathewson > What, if any, is the advantage of declaring variables in RR ? > Better error checking, I guess. > How do you declare variables in RR ? > local tLocalVar = "This is a local string" local x,y,z global tGlobalvar = "This is a global string" ---

Re: Newbie Question 5 of N

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 1:14:47 PM, you wrote: > So; what is 'strict compilation', and why should we be > interested? "Strict compilation" was formerly referred to as "explictVars". Setting the checkbox *forces* you to declare all your variables or be faced with compile errors. The adva

Re: AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread David Bovill
Thanks Stephen - I guess what i need to know is if a Rev plugin or framework needs this file - or if it is just hanging around from a tutorial stack. I'll try moving it away and see if anything breaks - trouble is everything is very broken :( Getting a crash every 5 minutes at the moment - revertin

Re: e: Why Rev needs a cookbook ?

2009-05-09 Thread Devin Asay
On May 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: I have never written a line of HTML, have never written commands to access, upload, download, FTP, anything to or from the Internet. I have 40 years of programming expertise, and I don't know where to start off writing code for my Interne

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Beats me: I think I'll continue 'conjuring variables out of the air': put "Who's afraid of undeclared variables?" && "bah, humbug!" into POOBAH :) stephen barncard wrote: 2009/5/9 Richmond Mathewson What, if any, is the advantage of declaring variables in RR ? Better error che

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread DunbarX
Where is Danny Goodman? ** Remember Mom this Mother's Day! Find a florist near you now. (http://yellowpages.aol.com/search?query=florist&; ncid=emlcntusyelp0006) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please vis

Re: AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
No, it's just a data file. If you are not using MySQL-Lite then delete it. But it doesn't execute. If you ever fired up MySQL-Lite then I think that's the default name. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/5/9 David Bovill > Thanks Stephen - I guess

Re: AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
Have you deleted the rev preferences? - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/5/9 David Bovill > Thanks Stephen - I guess what i need to know is if a Rev plugin or > framework > needs this file - or if it is just hanging around from a tutorial stack. >

Re: Dynamically resize members of a group

2009-05-09 Thread Roger Guay
On May 9, 2009, at 2:00 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Roger- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 10:11:23 AM, you wrote: Can anyone suggest a way to dynamically resizing objects of a group as the group is resized? Specifically, I have a pair of lines who's lengths I would like t

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread Ken Ray
> OK, loaded Puppy 4.2, with the copy to memory option and using Xorg not VESA. > > Ran the IDE 3.5, and it seemed fine. Fired up a few stacks and they were > fine, positively snappy. I couldn't even get *that* far... I'm using 4.2, and Xorg (not sure if I have copy to memory on - where would I

Re: AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread 54481C0151652ADE
No - I haven't - think I've tracked it to using GLX2 clairvoyance in the message box - I guess that is active even when the Script Editor isn't. 2009/5/9 stephen barncard > Have you deleted the rev preferences? > > - > Stephen Barncard > San Francisco > http://barncard.co

AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread David Bovill
No - I haven't - think I've tracked it to using GLX2 clairvoyance in the message box - I guess that is active even when the Script Editor isn't. 2009/5/9 stephen barncard > Have you deleted the rev preferences? > > - > Stephen Barncard > San Francisco > http://barncard.c

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Do you mean 'Danny Goodman' the man, or 'Danny Goodman' the wonderful book about Hypercard? As far as I know the man is "off, elsewhere"; i.e. not interested in Hypercard's successors: http://www.dannyg.com/ I have a copy of the book; currently languishing in my attic in Scotland, it will be re

Re: Newbie Question 5 of N

2009-05-09 Thread Richmond Mathewson
Writing as someone who, generally, learns from his errors, and trying to work out why they are error, this sounds as if it would not be a great advantage to me. Probably much more useful for somebody trying to belt out something with a very quick SDLC or turn-around. Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
I just tried the Slitaz distro on my MacBook Pro. looks really good .. but ... I can't get it to eject the CD image. Holding down the C key does not work HELP this is the first Linux distro I've tried in years... - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Force of habit. And there are many languages that require variable checking. And indeed typing. Like C, C++, C#, VB , Python, JS, AS, ST, Perl, and on and on. Anyway it's one of Revolution strengths not to requiring variable typing and creation. On 5/9/09 4:09 PM, "Richmond Mathewson" wrote: >

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Ken- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 2:10:04 PM, you wrote: > I couldn't even get *that* far... I'm using 4.2, and Xorg (not sure if I > have copy to memory on - where would I check?) and downloaded Rev 3.5. Went > to launch it and nothing happened. When I tried to launch it in from the > console I got al

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
Never mind, I figured it out. 2009/5/9 stephen barncard > I just tried the Slitaz distro on my MacBook Pro. looks really good > .. but ... I can't get it to eject the CD image. Holding down the C > key does not work HELP > ___ use-revolution maili

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Why not just comment - leave notes - in the online Dictionary? That be easy for all to di and help a lot. On 5/9/09 2:59 AM, "Peter Alcibiades" wrote: > I said this before, but its why Rev needs a cookbook on the lines of Carla > Schroder's great "Linux Cookbook" > > Steven Cox's queries illu

Re: Why Rev needs a cookbook (newb questions)

2009-05-09 Thread stephen barncard
The notes can't be entered by users in earlier versions. The comments are tied into the NEW revonline. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco http://barncard.com 2009/5/9 Stephen Cox > Why not just comment - leave notes - in the online Dictionary? That be easy > for all to di

Re: Newbie Question 5 of N

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Actually I'm not so sure it even matters, considering this isn't a typed language. I was just surprised when I ran my first try at code and had errors at runtime. Almost every compiler I've used checked variables. Why I asked in the first place. On 5/9/09 5:24 PM, "Richmond Mathewson" wrote:

RE: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Bufalini
Richmond Mathewson wrote: > May be this is a goofy question; but it can probably bear > the asking one more time: > > What, if any, is the advantage of declaring variables in RR ? - Unles yu ar an perfct typst who has nevr made a typo and nevar use a speel checker, explicitVariables instantly in

Re: Newbie Question 5 of N

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Richmond- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 2:24:47 PM, you wrote: > Writing as someone who, generally, learns from his errors, and > trying to work out why they are error, this sounds as if it would > not be a great advantage to me. Not to worry - there's plenty of errors to go around... ...I'd be happy

Re: Multi-cores and standalones

2009-05-09 Thread Pierre Sahores
The same with mac os x (10.5) : 2 apps = 2 cores at work. -- Pierre Sahores mobile : 06 03 95 77 70 www.sahores-conseil.com Le 9 mai 09 à 19:21, Jim Bufalini a écrit : Bryan McCormick wrote: Does anyone know how or if multiple standalones use memory space or cores? I realize they are not mul

Re: Should this not be an error ?

2009-05-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
Mark Wieder wrote: Alex- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 8:31:33 AM, you wrote: Shouldn't this be a compile error ? Same answer as the other question. If tracking this kind of error down seems like a pain then turn on explictVars and get in the habit of declaring variables. I accept that

revOnline

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
All- The new revOnline browser is a bit of a mystery to me. Over on the left there's a kind of filter and I've figured out how the filtering works, although (nudge, nudge, wink to the rev team) it would be more useful if the various keywords also displayed how many entries I could expect to find i

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Alex Tweedly
Richmond Mathewson wrote: Funny, I've never declared a variable in Runtime Revolution; I thought that was something that went out with PASCAL: even my BBC doesn't require me to that in BBC BASIC. I remember feeling 'odd' when I got my BBC (ah, all those years ago, out in the desert) that BBC B

Re: AppReg3.db

2009-05-09 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:33 AM, David Bovill wrote: > Anyone no where this file is from - it's been in "My Revolution..." folder > for a while, is ti a rev thing or a GLX2 thing? Time for a spring clean - > would like to throw it out :) It's the demo SQLite database created by the SQLite sample

Re: e: Why Rev needs a cookbook ?

2009-05-09 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> My problem is elsewhere. > > I have never written a line of HTML, have never > written commands to access, upload, download, > FTP, anything to or from the Internet. I have 40 years > of programming expertise, and I don't know where > to start off writing code for my Internet sites, or how > to p

Re: Should this not be an error ?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Alex- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 5:10:44 PM, you wrote: > I accept that for 'chr' (though I wonder what "the last myVar of temp" > means) ? > But for the other example, I don't get it. Why is >> if the last line of t is empty then delete line -` of t > affected by variable checking ?Is ` a

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Alex- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 5:16:10 PM, you wrote: > The advantage is that if yuor tipyng is as dab as nime tehn oyur erorrs > teg caugth soneer :-) Would that it worked that way. But if you type put 42 into myVarr instead of put 42 into myVar then rev will happily create a new variable for

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jim Bufalini wrote: - It allows you to distinguish globals from script locals and constants both at the script level and handler level. You can do that without declaring them explicitly too. - It allows you to declare globals from inside a handler (which creates a "semi" global that is only

Re: revOnline

2009-05-09 Thread J. Landman Gay
Mark Wieder wrote: All- The new revOnline browser is a bit of a mystery to me. Over on the left there's a kind of filter and I've figured out how the filtering works, although (nudge, nudge, wink to the rev team) it would be more useful if the various keywords also displayed how many entries I c

Re: revOnline

2009-05-09 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I made a bug regarding that in december, it's unconfirmed, so i assume no one from runrev ever looked at it: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7566 If I remember correctly, my one week prediction was off by about -2 days... On 10 May 2009, at 03:13, J. Landman Gay wrote:

Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Jacque- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 6:01:53 PM, you wrote: Ah... I *knew* this would push Jacque's buttons... > 1. The main strength of xtalk is that you do not have to declare or type > variables. Sticking them up there at the top of every handler removes > one of the main advantages of using Rev i

RE: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Bufalini
Dear Jacque, To each his/her own. ;-) And, of course, we all know you are a novelist (in English) and one who probably doesn't use a spell checker. ;-) But, just to clarify, so that what I said is not misinterpreted. I never said there is anything you cannot "do" without explicitVariables turned

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread Ken Ray
On 5/9/09 5:03 PM, "Mark Wieder" wrote: > Ken- > > Saturday, May 9, 2009, 2:10:04 PM, you wrote: > >> I couldn't even get *that* far... I'm using 4.2, and Xorg (not sure if I >> have copy to memory on - where would I check?) and downloaded Rev 3.5. Went >> to launch it and nothing happened.

RE: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Bufalini
Mark Wieder wrote: > I recognize hyperbole when I see it, but nonetheless I don't think you > can have 8 lines of declarations and three lines of actual script (and > of course someone will post some code that proves me wrong). If you > come across a handler like this then you have at least five l

OT Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Joe Lewis Wilkins
Following this thread has pushed another one of my buttons and I cannot resist getting on my soap-box and inserting my two-bits. We have "all" become accustomed to protecting ourselves from ourselves. To the point where some of us pass laws requiring that everyone protect themselves. I'm ta

Re: App on Linux - really slow... any ideas why?

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Ken- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 9:59:51 PM, you wrote: >> Anything like BZ #5382? > No, thse are all related to colormaps and screen updating, like: > (:8601): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gdk_colormap_new: assertion > `GDK_IS_VISUAL (visual) failed I love it when you talk dirty. Look farther down in BZ #538

Re: OT Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Mark Wieder
Joe- Saturday, May 9, 2009, 10:09:15 PM, you wrote: >vigilant and knowledgeable within all aspects of our lives. Not >declaring vars merely promotes sloppiness and, eventually, stupidity. I've found that I can declare vars and still be perfectly stupid, thank you. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahso

Re: OT Re: Newbie... Strict Compilation mode

2009-05-09 Thread Stephen Cox
Well.. God.. Sorry all for starting this. :) Use what you want. I'll keep it on cause I'm used to that type of environment. Used to declaring variables. And it's in my head. On 5/10/09 1:09 AM, "Joe Lewis Wilkins" wrote: > Following this thread has pushed another one of my buttons and I > ca

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