Re: get the color of this card at x,y

2009-11-20 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Bill Marriott w...@wjm.org wrote: That code didn't work for me ... Probably need something more like, lock screen put the screenmouseLoc into coord set the screenmouseLoc to 350,350 put the mousecolor set the screenmouseLoc to coord unlock screen Alternately, one can export snapshot

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Jim Bufalini
As to teaching kids, you'll have to speak to my wife who is a certified K through 12 and special needs school teacher. ;-) She was previously, for 18 years, a Systems Engineer with IBM in charge of Education Systems and installing computers in the classroom here. --Nice! Best,

Multitouch (suite...)

2009-11-20 Thread René Micout
The future ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWz1KbknIZkfeature=player_embedded René___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: Multitouch (suite...)

2009-11-20 Thread Björnke von Gierke
No On 20 Nov 2009, at 12:02, René Micout wrote: The future ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-20 Thread JosepM
I'm very glad that this will be usefully for you. As I say, the only problem is convert the printer name to use _. I preparing my own stack printer options to print using the shell commands. Here you can found more info with more deep. http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sum.html When I have

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-20 Thread Peter Brigham MD
Yeah, I discovered that one already. Many different ways of getting the printers that are in the system preferences printing panel. But apparently no way of telling which one is actually connected and live. It's hard to believe that the system is unaware of this piece of info until a print

Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Francis Nugent Dixon
Hi from Paris, Stephen Barncard sent : If one has ever had to work with punched cards (and I have not) genuinely deserves the title hard core. Not only did I work with punched cards (and I think there are more of you out there), but when the IBM026 and 029 card punches were not yet

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Swindell
In my experience getting teachers over 30 to understand even basic computer functions is difficult. Getting any but a small fraction of teachers to want to learn to program is more like leading a horse to the edge of the Grand Canyon than leading it to water. :) This includes the most

Revlets and certificates

2009-11-20 Thread Devin Asay
Can anyone tell me whether a revlet can use the security certificate of the host web server? Or does it need its own? I'm a relative certificate novice, so forgive me if my question is hopelessly naïve. Regards, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham

Re: knowing if a printer is connected

2009-11-20 Thread Peter Brigham MD
This seems to do it for me as well. I'm trying this (watch linewraps) (in a button, for testing) on mouseUp put shell(ioreg) into tList filter tList with *IOUSBDevice* -- | | | +-o DeskJet 8...@1d10 class IOUSBDevice, \ -- registered, matched, active, busy 0,

Re: Multitouch (suite...)

2009-11-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
René Micout wrote: The future ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWz1KbknIZkfeature=player_embedded I don't know if it's the future, but it represents some very bold thinking in useful directions. Very provocative. How did you come across that? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev

RE: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Judy and Jim, Many thanks for replying this request. From my experience, software developers are harder to convince to try RunRev than schools teachers. Actually, my fellow teachers, do not teach software development. They are not developers themselves nor have previous experience with

Re: Revlets and certificates

2009-11-20 Thread Bill Marriott
Devin, Can anyone tell me whether a revlet can use the security certificate of the host web server? Or does it need its own? I'm a relative certificate novice, so forgive me if my question is hopelessly naïve. I don't believe revlets would use a cert; the revWeb plugin does. That's the

Re: Revlets and certificates

2009-11-20 Thread Devin Asay
So would the cert that the revlet uses have to be stored on the client machine or on the server, with the revlet expressly accessing the certificate? I'm thinking about doing things like secure logins. On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Devin, Can anyone tell me whether a

Re: Multitouch (suite...)

2009-11-20 Thread René Micout
I look every day at a french site named Mac4ever (yes it is french !!) : http://www.mac4ever.com/news/ René Le 20 nov. 09 à 17:12, Richard Gaskin a écrit : I don't know if it's the future, but it represents some very bold thinking in useful directions. Very provocative. How did you come

Re: SOAP Library - More

2009-11-20 Thread william humphrey
Please re-post it. Sounds usefull. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution

Re: Multitouch (suite...)

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Richard- Friday, November 20, 2009, 8:12:27 AM, you wrote: René Micout wrote: The future ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWz1KbknIZkfeature=player_embedded I don't know if it's the future, but it represents some very bold thinking in useful directions. Very provocative. ...as long

A workaround for saving bits of information from a saved stack using URL?

2009-11-20 Thread charles61
I have been exploring various means of saving some information in a seamless manner to use in a datagrid when an user saves a document stack. The document stack requires the use of a dialog box. So that no problem. But I wanted to save some information from the stack file to a datagrid after the

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi Francis, The way that you describe this task of early computer programming, it sounds like a mental and physical challenge. Did you know if there is some multimedia simulation of card punching programming, made with Flash, Director, Hypercard or Runrev? Alejandro Francis Nugent Dixon

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread stephen barncard
Here's a nice one online: http://www.kloth.net/services/cardpunch.php This would be super-easy to do in Rev. 10 different ways. we could do this in ON-REV if we could get access to some of the graphics and stack stuff, like the templates. - Stephen Barncard San Francisco

Repeat Loop

2009-11-20 Thread Schwartz, Jonathan L.
Has anyone had a problem with the following? on mouseUp repeat with n = 0 to 1 step 0.1 put n, after aList end repeat put aList end mouseUp Returns 0,0.1,0.2,0.3,0.4,0.5,0.6,0.7,0.8,0.9,1,1.1, However, on mouseUp repeat with n = 0 to 2 step 0.1 put n, after aList

Re: Multitouch

2009-11-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: I just submitted a request in the RQCC for this: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 Hi Richard: I went ahead and voted for this but I'm curious how you expect to implement such a thing? It's true that OS's are gaining support for the tech,

Re: Multitouch

2009-11-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Richard Gaskin wrote: I just submitted a request in the RQCC for this: http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=8446 Hi Richard: I went ahead and voted for this but I'm curious how you expect to implement such a thing? It's true that OS's are gaining

Re: Multitouch (suite...)

2009-11-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, René Micout wrote: The future ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWz1KbknIZkfeature=player_embedded Re: the hardware interface -- seems like a a keyless keyboard Re: the software interface -- seems like reorientation of existing solutions I would say this solution is as they

Re: Repeat Loop

2009-11-20 Thread DunbarX
Wierd. The issue is whether or not 0 is in the range of the counter. So going from -2 to -1 ( or 1 to 2 or 66 to 67 or -3 to -2) gives 11 interations, as it should since the counter is inclusive. But going from -1 to 1 (or -1 to 0 or 0 to -1) gives 12 interations, one extra. It is consistently

Re: Repeat Loop

2009-11-20 Thread DunbarX
Bug in last post; But going from -1 to 1 (or -1 to 0 or 0 to -1) gives 12 interations, one extra. --either 22 or 12, not 21 or 11. Anyway, one extra. An extra iteration is performed if 0 is within the range of the loop counter. It seems that when the counter reaches its max value, if 0 was in

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Judy Perry
Yeah and then we could show it to Alejandro's teacher population and get them all pumped up about scripting and... nevermind... :-P Judy On Fri, 20 Nov 2009, stephen barncard wrote: Here's a nice one online: http://www.kloth.net/services/cardpunch.php This would be super-easy to do in

Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread DunbarX
For the following handler: on mouseUp repeat with y = 1 to 2 step 0.1 --startValue is 1 put , after loopCounter end repeat put the number of items of loopCounter -- 11, which is correct end mouseUp I tested all loops where the range was 1, with a startValue from 0 on up to

Another Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread DunbarX
Keeping startValues constant but just changing the increment value on mouseUp repeat with n = 0 to 1 step 0.1 -- 0 is a bad starvalue put , after loopCounter end repeat put the number of items of loopCounter end mouseUp With an increment of 0.1, and extra loop is run

Re: Snapshot problems

2009-11-20 Thread Howard Bornstein
Thanks Scott! This does work. I sure wish I could wrap my head around *why* it works however. Regards, Howard Bornstein --- www.designeq.com On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:57 PM, Scott Rossi sc...@tactilemedia.comwrote: Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote: I am trying to do a

Re: Snapshot problems

2009-11-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Howard Bornstein wrote: This does work. I sure wish I could wrap my head around *why* it works however. When it comes to snapshots, you can think of a group as a sheet of glass -- all objects on the glass will be captured in your photograph, but the glass (group) itself won't. In

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Actually, this is really enlightening, given that I do not live that time in computer history. I remember that when i was a teenager, two of my neighbors were University teachers who used punch cards in their classes. Somewhere in this house, there are some of these punch cards. Always picked

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread stephen barncard
My personal introduction to computers was TTL hardware. Anything I learn has to have some end goal or purpose. As my circuit boards got more and more complex, and wire wrapping was such a pain just to lay out a little bit of stupid logic, that about 1975 I started looking for a better way to

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread Jacques Hausser
Craig, Revolution does not use decimal numbers for its internal calculations (for reasons of speed), the decimal representation of a number is sometimes slightly off the correct number. (the dictionnary) A repeat with loop with a fractional increment implies additions and comparison of

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread Jacques Hausser
Sorry, it was an accident of cut and paste in my demonstraiton. The results are: 0 : 0.16 1 : 0.200011 2 : 0.300044 3 : 0.400022 4 : 0.5 5 : 0.599978 6 : 0.699956 7 : 0.799933 8 : 0.899911 9 :

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread Jacques Hausser
... and you should read: 9 : 0.999889 1, so your loop with i = 0 to 1 step 0.1 will continue for one more step ! It's really time to go to bed... J. ** Prof. Jacques Hausser Department of Ecology and Evolution Biophore / Sorge University of

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
Jacques Hausser wrote: Better not to use decimal increments in loops ! I didn't even know it was allowed until this thread started. I always thought increments were limited to integers. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software |

Re: Looking for a defined path to learn Rev (for new users)

2009-11-20 Thread Mark Wieder
stephen- Friday, November 20, 2009, 12:08:25 PM, you wrote: This would be super-easy to do in Rev. 10 different ways. Couldn't resist the challenge. I uploaded a Hollerith Card Script Editor to revOnline. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread DunbarX
I get all that, and should have realized that decimals are not quite what they seem. I knew that. I got caught up in the fact that they were a function of some binary pattern. Without going into the 19th decimal place, this is probably not even a mystery. Craig Newman

[ANN] tRev Feature Friday: drag-n-drop layering; inline editing!

2009-11-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Fellow Rev-ers, We have a fine 4 minute video that demonstrates how tRev's Object Browser will now let you: - Drag an object in the Object Browser to re-layer it. - Shift+drag an object to clone and relayer it. - Double-click an object name in Browser to re-name it. - BONUS: Set content of a

[ANN] Link to tRev drag-n-drop / inline editing video

2009-11-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Fellow babies, I neglected to post the link to the video I mentioned in my last post: http://reveditor.com/feature-friday-drag-n-drop-layering-inline-ed Enjoy! Jerry Daniels Editing something? We can help. http://reveditor.com ___ use-revolution

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread stephen barncard
but it works if you set the numberformat to match on mouseUp put empty into fld results --set the numberFormat to #.## set the numberFormat to #.# put 0 into j repeat with i = 0 to 11 -- for demonstration add 0.1 to j

Data Grid Question

2009-11-20 Thread RevList
I have to admit that I do not use the Data Grid often enough to be comfortable with it, and I have problems finding how to do things. I have a simple 3 column table style datagrid and I populate the first two columns though a SQLite database. No problem. I would like to run a calculation on the

Re: Increment bug in repeat loops

2009-11-20 Thread Jacques Hausser
Le 21 nov. 2009 à 05:13, stephen barncard a écrit : but it works if you set the numberformat to match Yes Stephen, if the computation stays inside the loop, but not for the computation on the counter itself ! Try on mouseUp put into fld Result set the numberformat to