Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Nicolas Cueto wrote: > Sarah, if you're still on the line for quick questions... > > Can/Do/Will Rodeo pages work with Rev 3rd-party apps? Specially > Malte's Animation Engine, or Damien's NativeGeometry. Still here... No. Rodeo creates web pages, not Revolution

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Nicolas Cueto
Sarah, if you're still on the line for quick questions... Can/Do/Will Rodeo pages work with Rev 3rd-party apps? Specially Malte's Animation Engine, or Damien's NativeGeometry. Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@list

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: > Had lunch with Jerry today and he walked me through their progress. Pretty > impressive going. He showed me how simple it is to create an app which > launched any other apps on the iPad-- which IMO was pretty cool. I've got > all these damn i

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Looney
revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html> ___

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Had lunch with Jerry today and he walked me through their progress. Pretty impressive going. He showed me how simple it is to create an app which launched any other apps on the iPad-- which IMO was pretty cool. I've got all these damn iPad icons blasted over a dozen or so screens, so some sort of a

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Vokey, John
with what they have accomplished to this point that full freight on just that, alone, is worth it. On 2010-07-20, at 2:08 PM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with > pre-realase conditions! -- Please avoid sending m

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 12:48 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > *Rodeo* is the price of about 4.5 high quality large PIZZAs at this moment. > > Folks should not gain the weight and do this instead. > >  I just changed an image in an 'action' and it was an aha moment. It's a > game changer, just like t

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
*Rodeo* is the price of about 4.5 high quality large PIZZAs at this moment. Folks should not gain the weight and do this instead. I just changed an image in an 'action' and it was an aha moment. It's a game changer, just like the 'pad. I saw 6 or so iPads on each of my flights to the south recen

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
>>>> >>>> It's a fast-paced project, which seems to being run by level headed >>>> individuals, it will be very interesting to see where it goes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: use-re

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Stephen, great to be around your enthusiasm for learning, exploring and delivering. On Jul 20, 2010, at 5:56 PM, stephen barncard wrote: > This has happened before. Jerry (and Company) takes a known paradigm, > smashes it to pieces, and creates a whole new way of looking at a problem > and a sol

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Pierre Sahores
Same there ;-) Le 20 juil. 2010 à 23:29, Jim Ault a écrit : > > I agree with the crowd. Just signed up to support this stellar effort. > Not sure how I am going to use the web technology, > but I am sure there are many wonderful lessons ahead. > > Jim Ault > Las Vegas -- Pierre Sahores mobile

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote: > It's not written using Rev, but in XCode, it seems. It looks like someone > with good Objective-C and Cocoa skills wrote a lovely editor. I think I'm going to frame this email! Thanks for the compliment Jan. Cheers, Sarah _

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
This has happened before. Jerry (and Company) takes a known paradigm, smashes it to pieces, and creates a whole new way of looking at a problem and a solution - *out of the box* indeed. I am looking forward to setting aside some time soon to learn and build something useful with this new tool. On

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
Thanks just coming around. I was doing exactly that when you replied. Actions. What a concept! As I mentioned in another post, I am just a very gifted Chimpanzee, although I begin to suspect not so gifted as once I imagined. But non-Texans can do this you say! I suppose is some broad sense I fit

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Hey, Bob! Everything in Rodeo is a definition. And there are two types: UI elements and actions. You link your defined UI elements to actions. Your logic is in the action definition. Everything written VERY much like Rev code. Look at the examples in the Samples on the Rodeo home page. Read th

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
I understand those issues completely. thanks. On 20 July 2010 15:37, Jerry Daniels wrote: > Stephen, > > Video of the Summit being edited. It's a big file. Next couple days should > be done. > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels > > - Stephen Barncard San Francisco

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
I am still iffy on where I put the business logic. Can I use standard Revolution commands and functions? Can I define my own? Or do I have to code all that in the html myself? Not really sure. Maybe these things are going to come along later. Bob On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:29 PM, Jim Ault wrote:

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
g to see where it goes. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com >>>> [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >>>> Kluthe &g

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
ge- > >> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com > >> [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > >> Kluthe > >> Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 > >> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > >> Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last m

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
By the way, we just posted French and Brazilian translations of our Rodeo Transfer documentation. We now have all our docs in three languages: French, Portuguese/Brazilian and Texan. Looking for volunteer translators for German, Italian and Spanish. Best, Jerry Daniels Join the Rodeo pre-rele

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
We want to thank everyone for their support of Rodeo and our team. It means a lot to all of us. In fact... So much goodness is pouring out of my laptop from the list here, that I am surrounded by cute little woodland creatures who now feel safe and secure. Even the raccoons. Seriously... Tha

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
I signed up a week or so ago too, in spite of my low funds this month. It seems it's always a good deal investing in D&M - (I'm a small kickstarter, as well, and proud of it) On 20 July 2010 14:29, Jim Ault wrote: > On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > > BTW I am astounded at the

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jim Ault
On Jul 20, 2010, at 12:57 PM, Paul Looney wrote: BTW I am astounded at the progress they have made on this. They have accomplished things in a month that I expected to take a year. The outlook for Rodeo is very bright. I can't wait. And, given Jerry's reputation for followingthrough, it will

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Bob Sneidar
For $89, I'm in. Just signed up, more because of my experience with past projects Jerry's been involved with than my real need for Rodeo. I am hoping I can get the other developers around here to toy around with it and see where it goes from there. Bob On Jul 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jerry Dani

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Mark Wieder
Paul- Yeah - I've signed on now even though I don't have any current interest in deploying to the iPlatforms. I don't have a need for it right now, but I want to support the team and it gives me a new toy to play with . -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Devin, I would add ONE point of clarification that is strongly implied in Paul's answer, but not explicitly stated: You are only dependent upon the Rodeo server for development and testing. When you deploy in the release version, you can deploy to your own server, LAN, cloud, desktop...even de

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Devin, Paul is correct in all his answers below. Especially the "astounding"...I'm astounded by our team. We're on to something, here. Jerry On Jul 20, 2010, at 2:57 PM, Paul Looney wrote: > Devin, > They way Jerry explained it to me is that you would be able to deploy to any > server. > I be

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Looney
Devin, They way Jerry explained it to me is that you would be able to deploy to any server. I believe they are working on that this week. BTW I am astounded at the progress they have made on this. They have accomplished things in a month that I expected to take a year. The outlook for Rode

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Devin Asay
Since this seems to be the day for questions, one more I haven't seen asked: If I spring for Rodeo (and I'm very close to doing it) am I forever tied to dependency on the Rodeo server? What about those of us who have invested in our own on-rev account or in revServer? Can we produce code on the

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread David C.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > David, > > I only wish I was as good as Sarah at clarifying and answering questions. > She's gifted in that area where I am not...at least when it comes to text. > I'm one of those bullet point guys that the presentation experts hate. > >

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
David, I only wish I was as good as Sarah at clarifying and answering questions. She's gifted in that area where I am not...at least when it comes to text. I'm one of those bullet point guys that the presentation experts hate. See my answers/notes below, please... > Thank you for the additiona

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread David C.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote: > David, > > Sarah is sound asleep in Australia at the moment, so I'll see if I can answer > that for you. > > All transfer does is translate revTalk into Rodeo definitions. Rodeo server > then translates those definitions into HTML/CSS. Unti

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
David, I meant to include in my answer, our development time table, so you and others interested can see where we're going to be with the product over the next five weeks: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-20-built-as-an-xcode-app-so-you-can-bui Jerry On Jul 20, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Jerry Daniels wrote

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
David, Sarah is sound asleep in Australia at the moment, so I'll see if I can answer that for you. All transfer does is translate revTalk into Rodeo definitions. Rodeo server then translates those definitions into HTML/CSS. Until our Deploy Anywhere feature becomes available later in the mont

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Peter Alcibiades
-call-to-get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2295505.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Richard, The Mac client app that Rodeo 2.0 uses for it's editor is built in Xcode using Objective-C, not Revolution. Here's a link to a post about it: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-20-built-as-an-xcode-app-so-you-can-bui Best, Jerry Daniels Join the Rodeo discussion: http://rodeoapps.com/rodeo-

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Jan, You bring up an interesting point with suggesting a Windows port. We feel the real target in the future is not desktop OS like Mac, Windows or Linux, but environments like Webkit which are finding their way into an amazing variety of devices. Until that future arrives, we felt that to do a

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jerry Daniels
Jan, you are correct. We wrote the Rodeo client ourselves in Xcode without any outside talent. We combined many of the elements of the Rev version of Rodeo Editor and the web version of our editor. MJ, me and Sarah worked on the Rodeo 2.0 release. Sarah did the heavy lifting, but we all pitche

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Jan Schenkel
It's not written using Rev, but in XCode, it seems. It looks like someone with good Objective-C and Cocoa skills wrote a lovely editor. Perhaps if the programmer feels adventurous, he/she could experiment with Cocotron to provide a Windows port. The only rev-related pa

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread David C.
>> But hey, we'll see.  It will be most interesting.  Meanwhile, one assumes >> that it means that Rodeo apps will run in Chrome or Konqueror or Galeon on >> Linux?  Now that is interesting.  Its just a pity one cannot write them in >> the OS they will run on. > > You can, using a web-based editor.

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Richard Gaskin
Jerry - The screen shots look very nice. I noticed there's no seam between the title bar of the window and the toolbar as is common in Rev apps because we don't currently have a toolbar object. But since the language shown looks like RevTalk I had thought it was made with Rev. What is the

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Sarah Reichelt
> But hey, we'll see.  It will be most interesting.  Meanwhile, one assumes > that it means that Rodeo apps will run in Chrome or Konqueror or Galeon on > Linux?  Now that is interesting.  Its just a pity one cannot write them in > the OS they will run on. You can, using a web-based editor. You ju

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Richmond
On 07/20/2010 10:58 AM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Yes, this is indeed a complete showstopper, there is no Mac hardware in the future of quite a lot of us. Its very interesting, in particular the Transfer package is very interesting, but nothing is interesting enough to move one back into that part

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread Peter Alcibiades
nnot write them in the OS they will run on. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to-get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2295075.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archiv

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-20 Thread stephen barncard
The output is universal - Webkit will be the predominant browser engine very soon and most worthwhile of writing for. The potential is huge and the actual development computer is such a small part of the ROI. Get a mini ! The percentage of Mac vs PC desktops has nothing to do with marketing poten

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-19 Thread Jerry Daniels
Hey, David! Thanks for the note. We had to make a hard decision with platforms and aim for the future, which is actually not Mac desktop, but webkit, and its ilk. We ARE limiting our current desktop editor to Mac, however. A short-term necessity for us. Rodeo Transfer runs on any machine that r

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-19 Thread David C.
Well, I cannot say 100% whether it would make an absolute difference in a purchase/license/subscription decision, but there is still at one factor that makes it a total, 100% no-go... ...Mac only. Looks like you all are doing some great and valuable work on Rodeo and IMO, the new Transfer spin off

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-19 Thread Jerry Daniels
Hey, Rodney! Good hearing from you. The price for Rodeo will go up after the first year. If, as you say, it's a hobby and you're just fooling around, there's nothing to lose. Just don't renew. Meantime, you had a lot of fun for a year. On the other hand, if something comes to you in a vision a

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-19 Thread Rodney Somerstein
All of this looks very interesting. But what I can't see anywhere is whether or not buying in now would keep my price at $89/year or whether I would suddenly have to pay over $400 more next year when I renewed. The current deal looks great, but I can't see spending $499/year for Rodeo. It might

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-19 Thread Sarah Reichelt
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Robert Mann wrote: > > Hi folks, it seems that it is the last minute to get onboard Rodeo for a > pre-release ride... > Version 2 seems to be coming this week... > with data storage?? > > I have no connection with Rodeo.. > just sympathy to the team > and to you fr

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread stephen barncard
Thanks Jerry, sorry I couldn't be there; personal matters on Saturday at the same time prevented, but I want to see what happened. On 18 July 2010 20:15, Jerry Daniels wrote: > Andre, > > Once the said videos are posted to the site, they are available to all! > > Best, > > Jerry Daniels > > Fol

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread Andre Garzia
t will be very interesting to see where it goes. > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com > >> [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew > >> Kluthe >

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread Jerry Daniels
...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew >> Kluthe >> Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 >> To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase >> conditions! >> >> >> I am surprised by the many things revealed

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread Andre Garzia
f Of Andrew > Kluthe > Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 > To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase > conditions! > > > I am surprised by the many things revealed during this month's summit! > > Data Obj

RE: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread Ewan Richardson
iginal Message- From: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Kluthe Sent: 18 July 2010 18:14 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions! I am surpris

Re: [OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread Andrew Kluthe
et it now. Plus if you get in now, you can get rodeo transfer for free! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to-get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293218.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archi

[OT-Rodeo] Last minute call to get onboard with pre-realase conditions!

2010-07-18 Thread Robert Mann
.. ! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/OT-Rodeo-Last-minute-call-to-get-onboard-with-pre-realase-conditions-tp2293199p2293199.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution