Re: Delivering Cross-Platform Solutions (was RE: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users)

Lynn, Completely agree. (Wow, with Judy agreeing with ME and me agreeing with YOU, this place is starting to become all too agreeable, isn't it? ) There are so many pros and cons of every development tool and language on the planet that I've always maintained it comes down to two issues most of

Delivering Cross-Platform Solutions (was RE: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users)

> By that measure, RB is vastly more popular than RunRev. It > has four books published, quite a few magazine articles and a > healthy number of Web sites devoted to teaching it and > providing sample and reusable code (classes) for it. A combination of thrust and timing also help. There really

RE: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

> > Some versions check to see if your subscription is still active or > > not. > > This isn't true, REALbasic does not phone home. On Windows, > REALbasic uses IPC sockets to communicate with a debug application. > Depending on what Firewall software a Windows user is using > and how they

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Hmmm... and if he HAD said it, I suppose I'd just love arrays. ;-) Judy On Wed, 4 Oct 2006, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Was it H.L. Mencken who said "Arrays are the devil's playground"? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Ple

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Dan, I suspect that you're right about the 'popularity' factor (don't pass out... really... grab whatever heart meds are needed. Call 911 if necessary!).. ;-) But, how to get Rev to attain a similar 'popularity' quotient...??? Is it really a chicken or the egg thing? You say that it may not r

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

They are probably counting users of old versions also. I'm still on their mailing list and my old license going back to 2000 is still valid for upgrading so I think that makes me a Realbasic developer in their eyes. Jesse ___ use-revolution mailin

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Andre wrote: My little example is just a case where one can code a solution that will work nice, for a some kind of servers, for example a simple podcast broadcaster for your company intranet. It will be easier to code with threads then code it without it. I've been reading Python Network

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Ruslan, Yes, I know that. I was just giving a naive example. I never saw this ACE framework book, hope it is on safari bookshelf, this way I can read it online! :-) I don't know much on how to make servers that can scale to thousand connections, nor I know much about semaphores and mutex

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Ohh, threads... M.. Donuts... :) I was thinking of this the other day, and an easy way to set this up would be to have the initial card background a different colour. All that run on the same thread run on the same colour card/stack (I'm still getting my mind around the naming conventio

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Wouldn't the bug database be a rough (ok, VERY rough!) indicator? No, not the number of bugs but the number of individual bug posters. On it's plus side I have seen some neat plugins, and it does handle 3D (well, in a fashion). Cheers, Luis. On 4 Oct 2006, at 20:39, Ian Wood wrote: And

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

On 10/5/06 1:13 AM, "Andre Garzia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What sorts of tasks would threading be essential for? >> > > Making servers > > We need threads or fork(). Thats the only way to serve thousands of > concurrent connections. Andre, this is not best model. If you going develo

RE: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

> I wonder what the 'paid' installed base for RB is? That all > said, I do believe the 100K number is a good marketing ploy. > It would make me more confident in a proprietary development product. > > I wonder what Rev's (combined with MC's) total number of > downloads would be? > > It seems i

RE: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

> BTW, I fired up my RB 5.5 the other day and almost fell off > my chair when the Windows firewall came up and told me it was > trying to connect to the internet! Why is RB connecting to > the internet? And what is it doing? Why would it phone home? Some versions check to see if your subscri

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

On Oct 4, 2006, at 7:04 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: What sorts of tasks would threading be essential for? Making servers We need threads or fork(). Thats the only way to serve thousands of concurrent connections. You create a simple server that can serve just one request. You pick ev

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Dan Shafer wrote: Threads we need. Nested arrays we can simulate. Was it H.L. Mencken who said "Arrays are the devil's playground"? Okay, maybe not. While I find threads intriguing, in practice I can't say I've had much of a need which was worth the debugging/maintenance overhead. And in

Kind-OT: cs books, lisp, threads and stuff (was Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users)

Dan, yes, that much is true, anyone can simulate nested arrays. I've seen solutions for that poping on the list every now and then. As for threads. Yes we need them, and hard if we want to build networked servers and fastcgi like daemons. I decided to use some of my time every week to lea

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Andre. Threads we need. Nested arrays we can simulate. :-) Dan On 10/4/06, Andre Garzia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now my only wish for Rev is NESTED ARRAYS AND THREADS! Sorry for the all caps, I get emotional over this topics... :-) Andre -- ~~~

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Peter, Rev would also trigger your firewall due to RevOnline launching on startup (unless you disable it on the prefs). It's not phoning home but it's sure accessing a server. Thats why I hate this firewall softwares, it's all or nothing. In windows they go all jumpy. Now imaigine me. At

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

This thread made me ask myself the question, "What constitutes a user of a development tool?" I used to think it would be dishonest to count everyone who had ever downloaded (and perhaps paid for?) any version of the tool. After all, I've downloaded (and even paid for) quite a number of developme

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

and I have 45 thousand users for iBlog application which was last updated many years ago while I was an RB user, before I switched to Rev... Heck, I developed that think in RB for System 9. andre On Oct 4, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Lynn Fredricks wrote: In a press release <

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

I'm a FORMER user of REALBasic. I never used it for major (multimedia) development, like I do use Revolution now. I guess I am still counted in the 100,000. BTW, I fired up my RB 5.5 the other day and almost fell off my chair when the Windows firewall came up and told me it was trying to co

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

On 10/4/06, Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heck, if we're just counting total downloads since the product was launched then WebMerge has about half a million users. :) And if we're counting hits to our website (www.buttongadget.com), then ButtonGadget has over 1 million users. Damn

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

And what got me started with Revolution? A free copy of 1.something on a MacUser UK cover disk... ;-) Ian On 4 Oct 2006, at 19:50, Mark Schonewille wrote: 4) They gave away a free RealBasic Lite for Mac with magazines, a few years ago. Mark __

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

Lynn Fredricks wrote: In a press release today, REALBasic indicated its product now produces Universal Binaries, but I found it more intriguing that they claim 100,000 users of their product. I can't believe that's a real number but if it is, they have cl

Re: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

4) They gave away a free RealBasic Lite for Mac with magazines, a few years ago. Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.b

RE: [OT] - REALBasic Claims 100K Users

> In a press release > today, REALBasic indicated its product now produces Universal > Binaries, but I found it more intriguing that they claim > 100,000 users of their product. I can't believe that's a real > number but if it is, they have clearly been do