Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Wilhelm, Regarding the origin of this thread, the challenge was trying to take a rectangular image and distort it by changing the shape of the image from a rectangle to a triangle or ngon with the appropriate interpolation. I imagine even you would agree it is a sizable task for Rev's built in ima

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-20 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
Most things have already been said, and I will try to keep my comment short. Bush was not a specific target for me, but more of a random choice to exemplify the new "caricature" features of my Toolkit. It could have chosen Hillary or Barack, or Putin for that matter. I remember, someone - about

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-20 Thread Roger . E . Eller
Chip said to Randall: > No one is taking issue with your politics, only that this is > NOT the forum to discuss them. It is easy to mistake this as the "Revolution" forum, I guess. ;) Roger Eller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ use-revolution mailing list use

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-20 Thread Petrides, M.D. Marian
Great image, Heather :-))) On Dec 20, 2007, at 5:14 AM, Heather Nagey wrote: Well! Thank you for that Lynn, I really needed a laugh this morning. I will get my umbrella! (did he just call me grandma? should I be offended? no doubt I would be if i wasn't laughing so much). Folks, interestin

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-20 Thread Heather Nagey
Well! Thank you for that Lynn, I really needed a laugh this morning. I will get my umbrella! (did he just call me grandma? should I be offended? no doubt I would be if i wasn't laughing so much). Folks, interesting debate, and once again an illustration of the diversity of the wonderful peo

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Björnke von Gierke
I personally find the controverses that crop up on the use list about 4 or 5 times per year very refreshing. It's fun to read how people react, and tells me more about list participants then even a decade of technical posts. Said that, it is of course the scarcity of these "happenings" that

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
e Revolution" Sent: 12/19/2007 12:22 PM Subject: Re: Caricature challenge Randall, As one who has been here for many, many years, and tries to abide by Lynn's golden rule, I would ask you consider subscribing to a list somewhere where your politics and ideas are readily discussed and

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I ask you this Lynn, what is more offennsive, speaking an > uncomfortable opinion, or defending politness over and above > the right to publically expose one's ideas? There are by > definition lots of polite people in every oppressive > culture... (the rest are in prison, dead, marginalized,

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Chipp Walters
Terry, You are welcome to check out some of my imageData example stacks and toolkits at: http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm I have seen the videos you shared, and while they are very interesting, I think you'll find it difficult to distort imageData the way you want to in Rev

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Jim Kanter
To paraphrase Mark Twain, it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're a fool than open it and remove all doubt. As much as I enjoy and defend freedom of speech let's return the bandwidth away from what's revolting to what's Revolution. Peace on Earth and good will to all.

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Chipp Walters
Randall, As one who has been here for many, many years, and tries to abide by Lynn's golden rule, I would ask you consider subscribing to a list somewhere where your politics and ideas are readily discussed and debated. No one is taking issue with your politics, only that this is NOT the forum to

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
ginal Message- From: "Lynn Fredricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'How to use Revolution'" Sent: 12/19/2007 10:26 AM Subject: RE: Caricature challenge > I agree with Dave that Wilhelm probably never intended to > make a political statement about Bush with h

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> I agree with Dave that Wilhelm probably never intended to > make a political statement about Bush with his picture. > Overhere in Europe it is totally OK to make fun of people, > whether we respect them or not. I think everyone is in agreement that this list isnt the place for that. In fact,

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 12/18/2007 11:32 PM Subject: Re: Caricature challenge Wilhelm, Perhaps you may find it humorous making fun of another country's leader. Obviously, Stephen did. Some of us who live in Texas, don't share your beliefs,

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Chipp Walters
On Dec 19, 2007 4:49 AM, Dave Cragg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I would have done the > same. The world's most > public figure is the fairest of game. > > While certainly Jesus Christ and Allah are public figures, I doubt caricatures of either with religious symbols as devils horns would be a

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Terry Vogelaar
I all, I agree with Dave that Wilhelm probably never intended to make a political statement about Bush with his picture. Overhere in Europe it is totally OK to make fun of people, whether we respect them or not. In fact, I started this thread because I get a lot of requests from guys who

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-19 Thread Dave Cragg
On 19 Dec 2007, at 07:32, Chipp Walters wrote: I would never do a similar thing to your country's leader-- and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't find myself posting it here on this forum. I would suggest you get a blog and post your nonsense there. Chipp Wilhelm explained his reasons for

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-18 Thread Chipp Walters
Wilhelm, Perhaps you may find it humorous making fun of another country's leader. Obviously, Stephen did. Some of us who live in Texas, don't share your beliefs, and find this forum NOT the correct place for such foolishness. And anyone telling me to "lighten up" about something I feel strongly ab

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-18 Thread Stephen Barncard
Seeing that was the first time I'd felt sorry for the guy. Ever. I hope I do not cause trouble with this attempt of a caricature - as it happens in other parts of the world. Bush is indeed a known public figure and as such often the object of caricatures. Best regards, Wilhelm Sanke --

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-18 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
On Mon Dec 17, 2007, Ken Ray kray at sonsothunder.com wrote: The only thing I could think of would be to make it a multi-step process: 1) Take the original image (img "orig"), duplicate it (img "dupe") and lock its loc. 2) Set the rect of "dupe" to the same size as the polygon 3) Make a new im

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-17 Thread Ken Ray
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 18:36:22 -0800, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: > In supercard, if you set the "picturedata" of a polygon to an image's > path on disc, that image assumes the dimentions of the rectangle that > defines the smallest rectangle within which the polygon would fit. > Reshape the polyg

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-16 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
use Revolution" Sent: 12/16/2007 5:09 PM Subject: RE: Caricature challenge On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:08:41 -0800, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: > Well, yes you are correct... Tht would be ideal (as a mode)... But so > long as the crop is to the outer (and not the inner) rectangle bounds > of

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-16 Thread Ken Ray
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:08:41 -0800, Randall Lee Reetz wrote: > Well, yes you are correct... Tht would be ideal (as a mode)... But so > long as the crop is to the outer (and not the inner) rectangle bounds > of the polygon, then you can still get a good effect. The more > triangles the better..

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-16 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Message- From: "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 12/16/2007 1:28 PM Subject: Re: Caricature challenge Randall Lee Reetz wrote: > Really, rev cant apply an image as fill for a polygon? Any workarounds? Rev can use an image as a

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Randall Lee Reetz wrote: Really, rev cant apply an image as fill for a polygon? Any workarounds? Rev can use an image as a fill for a polygon, but when the polygon is resized or reshaped, the image is cropped to fit rather than being distorted. That probably isn't the effect you are after.

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-15 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
Really, rev cant apply an image as fill for a polygon? Any workarounds? randall -Original Message- From: "Chipp Walters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "How to use Revolution" Sent: 12/15/2007 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Caricature challenge Hi Terry, Wow, excellent

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-15 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi Terry, Wow, excellent link to the beautyanalysis website. Very interesting stuff indeed. Funny how the emphasis on beauty, symmetry and proportion is completely lost regarding the poor design of the website. You would think anyone who has spent THAT amount of time studying beauty would understa

Re: Caricature challenge

2007-12-14 Thread Terry Vogelaar
Fake is fine. The purpose is not to make a 'perfect' caricature on the computer, but to make a visual guide on what to emphasise. Still I wonder HOW to divide a picture in polygons and distort each polygon in Revolution. Any suggestions? I've seen pretty good 'fake' approaches in Flash. It

RE: Caricature challenge

2007-12-14 Thread Randall Lee Reetz
I use polygons (in supercard) and then put images as rectangles (grabbed from the rect that bounds them) into them and then stretch the polygons. Does a pretty good fake of stetching the source. Try it! I am sure rev has this stuff too. Think of your faces as a bunch of points... The polys ar