Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
jbv wrote: Richard Gaskin a *crit : jbv wrote: > A good compromise would be to have transcript implemented inside a browser; > then HTML + CSS + Transcript would be a much more exciting approach... In principle, yes. In practice, maybe not so much:

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-26 Thread chris bohnert
jbv said: sure... and in order to remember what you had in mind, you just add a comment line : //process last char of first word of line 3 of myVar Ok..if you're going to use the "its all Greek to me" argument I guess I'll just have to count myself as a Greek and move along :-) -- cb

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-26 Thread jbv
Richard Gaskin a *crit : > jbv wrote: > > A good compromise would be to have transcript implemented inside a browser; > > then HTML + CSS + Transcript would be a much more exciting approach... > > In principle, yes. In practice, maybe not so much: > >

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-26 Thread jbv
chris bohnert a *crit : > myVar.line[3].word[1].thechars.splice(thechars.length,1); > sure... and in order to remember what you had in mind, you just add a comment line : //process last char of first word of line 3 of myVar right ?;-) JB __

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-26 Thread jbv
Andre Garzia a *crit : > What I think cool about javascript is that > it has lots of features I like which ones for instance (just curious) ? JB ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsu

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Andre Garzia
thats why our apps will only run when the iPhone is connected to a data network, may it be wifi, bluetooth, edge, gsm or whatever only services, no apps... maybe with google gears we will have some kind of hope... I don't know. I think without a proper SDK, I'll don't try developing for it. a

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Stephen Barncard
perhaps, but it sure is ugly. myVar.line[3].word[1].thechars.splice(thechars.length,1); objects references are good things..really they are. -- cb -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Wieder
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Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Wieder
Andre- Somehow I doubt that there's a cgi folder inside the iPhone. Or at least one that's accessible to install a rev Darwin engine. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit th

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread chris bohnert
myVar.line[3].word[1].thechars.splice(thechars.length,1); objects references are good things..really they are. -- cb On 6/25/07, jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andre Garzia a *crit : > unfortunately the web browsers will only run javascript (which is ECMAScript > + DOM), and it is a nice l

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Andre Garzia
well I don't do that kind of line always, but, I use closures for example and I can do those in Javascript. What I think cool about javascript is that it has lots of features I like and I don't have features I don like... of course xTalk is way better than any of those languages, may they be C, Pa

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Richard Gaskin
jbv wrote: A good compromise would be to have transcript implemented inside a browser; then HTML + CSS + Transcript would be a much more exciting approach... In principle, yes. In practice, maybe not so much: -- Ri

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread jbv
Andre Garzia a *crit : > unfortunately the web browsers will only run javascript (which is ECMAScript > + DOM), and it is a nice language, a nice language ? just curious : for example, how do you code delete last char of first word of line 3 of myVar in javascript ? JB __

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Andre Garzia
unfortunately the web browsers will only run javascript (which is ECMAScript + DOM), and it is a nice language, there's no way we could port transcript to the browser, unless we build a transcript-to-javascript gizmo. andre On 6/25/07, jbv <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andre, A good compromise

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread jbv
Andre, A good compromise would be to have transcript implemented inside a browser; then HTML + CSS + Transcript would be a much more exciting approach... For years I've been (naively) dreaming of Transcript be be available in a browser. I know this will never happen, but (although it's been di

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Andre Garzia
Yes JB, Desktop apps will always be better than web applications. Web applications are a step back in computing since we went the last decade in a direction and now we're reversing it. For remote computing we have X11 and NX, much better protocols than anything AJAX and Web have ever granted us.

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread jbv
Andre Garzia a *crit : > > 1) The client side which is HTML + CSS + Javascript. This is your interface > and the logic that binds itself with a server. You can't do that in Rev, but > you can create tools in Rev to help you build and testproof your javascript > + HTML + CSS stuff. Javascript is

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Andre Garzia
for all in this thread, you can code web apps using Revolution, you just can't use revolution user interface controls to build your web application. You can fetch my RevOnRockets package and see some examples of AJAX applications done in Rev. http://www.andregarzia.com/RevHTTP.zip you can che

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Thomas McGrath III
Mark, Dave, I was wondering if perhaps a stack could be used to help in the dev of a WEB 2.0 App. Maybe some GUI help and then some functionality help etc. to then be put into/ converted to a widget etc. I tried playing around with widget dev but was disappointed with the results. Maybe w

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Dear Dave, A widget might be able to launch a regular app under Mac OS X, but not on an iPhone. Maybe, on an iPhone, a widget could launch another widget, but certainly not a Revolution stack. Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://eco

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Dave
I wonder if a widget could launch a regular app? All the Best Dave On 25 Jun 2007, at 15:38, Mark Schonewille wrote: Tom, You can't do this, unless you find a way to translate a Revolution stack into a widget that can run inside Safari (i.e. Web 2.0 + AJAX, as Steve Jobs explained at the

Re: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Schonewille
Tom, You can't do this, unless you find a way to translate a Revolution stack into a widget that can run inside Safari (i.e. Web 2.0 + AJAX, as Steve Jobs explained at the WWDC). Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.co

RE: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev

2007-06-25 Thread Jeff Honken
I'm also interested in trying this. It's my understanding it's running OS X -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas McGrath III Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:51 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: WEB 2.0 and iPhone Dev Has any one been