Le 1 nov. 2010 à 16:09, Lynn Fredricks a écrit :
>>> Check out information from one user from about eight years
>> ago (!) in
>>> building a kiosk project, comparing Valentina with MS Access. Of
>>> course, you probably wouldn't do this with Access today, but worth
>>> considering is that thi
> > Check out information from one user from about eight years
> ago (!) in
> > building a kiosk project, comparing Valentina with MS Access. Of
> > course, you probably wouldn't do this with Access today, but worth
> > considering is that this is with major hardware constraints, the
> > overh
Hi Lynn,
>> I'm not sure at all that PostgreSQL would be slower than
>> Oracle 11g, on both the OpenSuse 11 and OSX SL platforms and
>> it would be interesting to know how Valentina performs for
>> its own against both PostgreSQL and Oracle (would it be
>> faster, as it's presented to to be on
> I'm not sure at all that PostgreSQL would be slower than
> Oracle 11g, on both the OpenSuse 11 and OSX SL platforms and
> it would be interesting to know how Valentina performs for
> its own against both PostgreSQL and Oracle (would it be
> faster, as it's presented to to be on the
> http://
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
With LiveCode, for example, fields can *theoretically* hold up to
4GB, but I pity the person who tries it.
There's often a vast difference between theoretical addressing
limits and real-world use, hence my interest in finding actual use
c
On 10/31/10 12:41 AM, "Lynn Fredricks"
wrote:
>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle
>> .jhtml?articleID=201001901
>
> That's an interesting benchmark, I wish I had a couple of $60K to $75K
> server boxes handy so we could see how Valentina would do. We've always
> emp
Le 30 oct. 2010 à 23:41, Lynn Fredricks a écrit :
>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle
>> .jhtml?articleID=201001901
If a test could be setup in benchmarking the same test database set to run as :
- PHP+ Oracle 11g
- PHP+PostgreSQL 8.2
- PHP+ Valentina
- LiveCode
On 10/31/10 12:14 AM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote:
>However, the TPC doesn't have the power to run benchmark tests
>on a database platform without the approval of the database
>vendor. In fact, with the exception of IBM, most major database
>vendors include in their license agreements
On 10/30/10 10:14 PM, "stephen barncard"
wrote:
> Yes, I've been waiting for Ruslan to chime in here. Valentina has been the
> *elephant in the room* in this discussion and I find it slightly odd that
> Richard (no newbie in the Rev world) hadn't considered this product for his
> project.
Elep
On 10/31/10 12:10 AM, "Monte Goulding" wrote:
>>> Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
>>> salt. Feature comparisions (yes/no) I can appreciate, but when it comes to
>>> capacity and performance, that's a bit different.
>>
>> Indeed. With LiveCode, for examp
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle
> .jhtml?articleID=201001901
That's an interesting benchmark, I wish I had a couple of $60K to $75K
server boxes handy so we could see how Valentina would do. We've always
emphasized what can be done with modest hardware specs.
Best
> Right now they are offering the beta of Valentina Studio Pro
> for free ( and there's a free Valentina Linux server for
> non-commercial use - Richmond?)
>
> geesh, I just talked myself into finally trying this product myself.
>
> I don't see any other db company bending over backward to
> s
>Oracle, Sybase, and Informix each have a similar clause. These
>clauses are generically referred to as "DeWitt clauses." David
>DeWitt was one of the founders of the Wisconsin Benchmarks,
>which were first published in the mid-1980s. At that time, the
>Wisconsin Benchmarks publ
> > Indeed. With LiveCode, for example, fields can
> *theoretically* hold up to 4GB, but I pity the person who tries it.
>
> My point was that given your expected max db size of 5kB *
> 500 is 23GB this is only a very small fraction of the
> stated theoretical limits of SQLite.
I have a f
Richard-
http://www.informationweek.com/news/software/linux/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201001901
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Interesting find:
The Truth About the TPC
...
For example, one reader asked, "Why does the TPC organization
only test commercially licensed operating systems and databases?
My presumptions would lead me to think that a non-profit based
organization would be benchmarking anything they
On 31/10/2010, at 4:55 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> Lynn Fredricks wrote:
>
>>> 32TB db limit according to this:
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database
>>> _management_systems#Limits
>>
>> Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
Could you post some of your results here Richard.
Sent from my iPad
On 31/10/2010, at 2:23 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
> It seems in my initial tests that the time it takes to get data through the
> externals interface is much long than what it takes to move data around
> within Rev nativel
> > Without naming names, Ones with a Really Awesome, Conniving Legal
> > Environments have been known to include such things.
>
> Sounds a bit of an urban legend. I just checked my license
> (granted it's only version 8.0.5, but...) and there's nothing
> like that.
It was big news a few years
Lynn-
Saturday, October 30, 2010, 11:15:48 AM, you wrote:
> Without naming names, Ones with a Really Awesome, Conniving Legal
> Environments have been known to include such things.
Sounds a bit of an urban legend. I just checked my license (granted
it's only version 8.0.5, but...) and there's no
Yes, I've been waiting for Ruslan to chime in here. Valentina has been the
*elephant in the room* in this discussion and I find it slightly odd that
Richard (no newbie in the Rev world) hadn't considered this product for his
project.
If I were starting a new db project right now and wasn't force
> > There are some database vendors that in their EULAs state
> you cannot
> > publish performance data, and also have sued some who have done so.
>
> A curious limitation. Which ones?
A bad Halloween joke first:
Q: Where do vampires learn to suck blood?
A: Law school.
Without naming names,
Lynn Fredricks wrote:
32TB db limit according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database
_management_systems#Limits
Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
salt. Feature comparisions (yes/no) I can appreciate, but when it comes to
> 32TB db limit according to this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database
> _management_systems#Limits
Charts like this, especially on Wikipedia should be taken with a grain of
salt. Feature comparisions (yes/no) I can appreciate, but when it comes to
capacity and perf
> many of the data stores for the major apple apps use sqlite.
> it's a petty robust single user data store.
Of course I don't need to expand on what Ruslan will say about Valentina,
but I will say that there's a right tool for each job, and others that sort
of work but aren't optimal. I can use
Sivakatirswami wrote:
I was using and old example SQL stack... small data returns were fast,
but a lot of data (select * from table whatever.. i.e. "everything")
from a PostGreSQL database adding it to a display field. It took
forever...
Then I remembered "Dont' Do That!"
When I got all t
On 10/30/10 4:10 AM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote:
Hi Richard,
Hi Mark,
> Mark Stuart wrote:
>
>> on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>> Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets if
>> SQLite.
>> <<
>>
>> Hi Richard,
>> How many tables and how many
On 10/30/10 3:17 AM, "Richard Gaskin" wrote:
Hi Richard,
> I have a need coming up for a data store that can robustly handle at
> least a million records, ideally up to five million, where each record
> may be as large as 5k.
>
> I don't need relationality, so for me SQLite is an option but onl
many of the data stores for the major apple apps use sqlite. it's a petty
robust single user data store.
kee nethery
On Oct 29, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Mark Stuart wrote:
> on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>>>
> Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data se
32TB db limit according to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_relational_database_management_systems#Limits
Maybe use limit and offset to page through query results though.
Cheers
Monte
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On 30/10/2010, at 11:17 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
> I have a need coming
On 10/29/10 3:10 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
It'll vary, and in my own tests that seems to be the only bottleneck
with SQLit; queries that return little data are ultra speedy, but once
we get into large amounts of return data I see the hit.
Just a reminder, which you probably don't need at al
Mark Stuart wrote:
on Fri Oct 29 19:17:40 CDT 2010, Richard Gaskin wrote:
Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences with large data sets if
SQLite.
<<
Hi Richard,
How many tables and how many columns per table (on average) are you
talking about?
Probably just a single table, with abou
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