Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-27 Thread Charles Hartman
Thanks very much. That isn't what I'm trying to do -- not any more. Originally I did want to do that, so as to line up metrical scansion marks -- rather like diacritics, you're right -- over text. But I didn't know about the formattedWidth property (which turns out to be nifty now that I kn

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-27 Thread Devin Asay
Charles, I'm jumping in late in the game, and basing my memory of what you're trying to do on my quick read through of your original message yesterday. If I understand it correctly, you are trying to accurately position some kind of diacritical markings above specific letters in a text fi

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-27 Thread Charles Hartman
On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: If you do a search on the mailing list for "cross platform fonts" you'll get tons of hits. Here's Dar's info: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/ msg26708.html Thanks very much. Since Dar's table shows that even C

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
Charles Hartman wrote: > I'm already doing a preOpenStack in the main stack to set the two fonts > (one proportional, one monospace) according to what's available on the > runtime system. If I knew the right sizes it sounds as though I could > make the text fit the fields, backwards as that so

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Ken Ray
On 7/26/05 9:35 PM, "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ken > >> On 7/26/05 2:37 PM, "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Charles, >>> >>> Same wrong thing with file handling... but it does allow >> you to have >>> the low-level edge... >> >> What do you mean, Xavier? What is backwa

RE: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread MisterX
Ken > On 7/26/05 2:37 PM, "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Charles, > > > > Same wrong thing with file handling... but it does allow > you to have > > the low-level edge... > > What do you mean, Xavier? What is backwards with file handling? with file type handling it's quite a pain

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Alex Tweedly
Charles Hartman wrote: There's another bug or two (BZ 2138 and another one I can't see right now) that might be what you're seeing. These happen when you run a stack on WinXP by double-clicking on the stack icon. I created BZ 2138 for this problem with the Dreamcard Player - and since I

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
No no, you're right, I wasn't thinking clearly. (How novel!) _One_ version of the text-and-marks field, screen-shot and therefore reliable in size, with covering fields tailored to that immutable size. Yes, that ought to work. I'll try it, especially if I can't get the text-size-changing ap

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
On Jul 26, 2005, at 6:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: PROBLEM 1: On WinXP, the cursor disappears whenever I mouse onto a stack. If you could add your comments to the bug report, the team might be able to track it down. I don't think it depends on the stack itself, since those people

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Phil Davis
Richard Gaskin wrote: Phil Davis wrote: If your text (and the field) always had the exact same metrics throughout on both platforms, wouldn't that make your cover fields always work? There's a font with identical metrics on multiple platforms? Yep - it's called a snapshot of the screen (or

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
There's another bug or two (BZ 2138 and another one I can't see right now) that might be what you're seeing. These happen when you run a stack on WinXP by double-clicking on the stack icon. I created BZ 2138 for this problem with the Dreamcard Player - and since I wasn't sure if it was in

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread J. Landman Gay
Charles Hartman wrote: PROBLEM 1: On WinXP, the cursor disappears whenever I mouse onto a stack. There's a Bugzilla report about this. It started a couple of versions ago but the team couldn't reproduce it. No one else complained, so the bug was closed. Recently another customer complained

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Richard Gaskin
Phil Davis wrote: If your text (and the field) always had the exact same metrics throughout on both platforms, wouldn't that make your cover fields always work? There's a font with identical metrics on multiple platforms? I would have bet on finding the Holy Grail before finding a font foundry

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Alex Tweedly
Charles Hartman wrote: ? I'm not using (specifying) anything in the way of icons at all. I do set the background (fill) color of the card differently in different parts of the main stack to keep the user oriented, but that doesn't look like the problem -- the cursor disappears over the _w

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Phil Davis
Charles Hartman wrote: On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Phil Davis wrote: -- snip -- - you can display a screenshot of the field and not the field itself. This is my current favorite, because it's air-tight as long as (1) you're only dealing with screen displays, not printing, and (2) the disp

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Ken Ray
On 7/26/05 2:37 PM, "MisterX" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Charles, > > Same wrong thing with file handling... but it does allow you > to have the low-level edge... What do you mean, Xavier? What is backwards with file handling? > once you're made your standard ask and answer dialogs conform, >

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
On Jul 26, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Phil Davis wrote: Even if you use Courier New and you find the Win and Mac equivalent textSizes, you'll still encounter the issue of different text origin points in the field on the respective platforms. (By 'origin point' I mean the x:y coordinate within the fi

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Phil Davis
Charles Hartman wrote: I've got an app (about 500kb) mostly finished in OSX, in DreamCard. I just got access to the Win XP machine I use to test x-platform apps. I have three problems, and I'd be grateful for suggestions. The first two are (I'm guessing) known and not too hard, though I don'

RE: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread MisterX
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Charles Hartman > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 20:55 > To: How to use Revolution > Subject: Re: Mac -> Win problems > > (this is off-list because I'm tired of being A Complainer on list) > > Am I missing something? The HI guidelin

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
(this is off-list because I'm tired of being A Complainer on list) Am I missing something? The HI guidelines for the two platforms are different. Rev is a cross-platform app builder. Yet it builds apps that -- in this low-level design area -- don't conform to the different HIGs? There's a R

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread David Burgun
It's the age old "Ok" on right (Mac) or "Ok" on Left (Windoze). IMO, it is better to have a standard function that calls the answer (or whatever) command having swapped the buttons in necessary, e.g.\ function DoXPlatformDialog if tPlatform is "OSX" then answer "Here's a sample" with "one" o

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Judy Perry
Yes. I believe so. It is due to a difference in HIG for the two platforms. Judy On Tue, 26 Jul 2005, Charles Hartman wrote: > Thanks. Let me just make sure I understand this part. Do you mean > that I need to have platform-dependency code in my stacks, so every > time I use "answer" I'd need so

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
? I'm not using (specifying) anything in the way of icons at all. I do set the background (fill) color of the card differently in different parts of the main stack to keep the user oriented, but that doesn't look like the problem -- the cursor disappears over the _whole_ face of the stack,

Re: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread Charles Hartman
Thanks. Let me just make sure I understand this part. Do you mean that I need to have platform-dependency code in my stacks, so every time I use "answer" I'd need something like this? if tPlatform is "OSX" then answer "Here's a sample" with "one" or "two" or "three" else answer "Here'

RE: Mac -> Win problems

2005-07-26 Thread MisterX
> PROBLEM 1: On WinXP, the cursor disappears whenever I mouse > onto a stack. dont use colors icons! wait a coming release (i think there's been enough beaching aboutit... > PROBLEM 2: in "answer" commands, the choices I specify are > there, but they're in reversed order. reverse the order o