Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-16 Thread Shari
It's good to see the Metacard IDE mentioned here. While someone accustomed to Rev might initially be underwhelmed by its simplicity, that same simplicity can make your programming so much more productive. The Rev IDE has its honor points and I do occasionally launch it, but the MC IDE is whe

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-16 Thread J. Landman Gay
Bernard Devlin wrote: Jacqueline Thanks for making this such an easy install. I really am most grateful to the people who've kept this alive. I'd reached the end of my tether trying to use Rev 3.5 and 4.0 on Linux. At least the Metacard IDE works about 98% of the way. There are still some vi

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-16 Thread Bernard Devlin
Jacqueline Thanks for making this such an easy install. I really am most grateful to the people who've kept this alive. I'd reached the end of my tether trying to use Rev 3.5 and 4.0 on Linux. At least the Metacard IDE works about 98% of the way. There are still some visual defects, but alas t

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-16 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 16/12/2009 11:48, Ryno Swart wrote: I seem to have the uncanny ability to break anything... the MIDA$ touch. I cannot download the MetaCard IDE successfully. The message "Sorry, but this version of the IDE requires engine >=3.x!" appears. My version of Rev is 2.8.1 build 470. Any suggestion

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-16 Thread Ryno Swart
I seem to have the uncanny ability to break anything... the MIDA$ touch. I cannot download the MetaCard IDE successfully. The message "Sorry, but this version of the IDE requires engine >=3.x!" appears. My version of Rev is 2.8.1 build 470. Any suggestions? Ryno. ___

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
D.Coker wrote: In RevOnline (in Rev's toolbar) search for the "MetaCard Setup" stack. This will download the latest MC IDE and set it up with your (licensed) Rev engine, ready to go. It's all one click. Again I'll say thanks! It works like a charm and everything is just as I remember it. About

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread D.Coker
>In RevOnline (in Rev's toolbar) search for the "MetaCard Setup" stack. >This will download the latest MC IDE and set it up with your (licensed) >Rev engine, ready to go. It's all one click. Again I'll say thanks! It works like a charm and everything is just as I remember it. About all I can see

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread Richmond Mathewson
On 16/12/2009 00:20, D.Coker wrote: In RevOnline (in Rev's toolbar) search for the "MetaCard Setup" stack. This will download the latest MC IDE and set it up with your (licensed) Rev engine, ready to go. It's all one click. Cool beans... I'll give it a try. Thank you Jacque! _

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread D.Coker
>In RevOnline (in Rev's toolbar) search for the "MetaCard Setup" stack. >This will download the latest MC IDE and set it up with your (licensed) >Rev engine, ready to go. It's all one click. Cool beans... I'll give it a try. Thank you Jacque! ___ use

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
D.Coker wrote: I remember trying/using the MC IDE way back before Rev and would like to have another look for those very reasons expressed. Is there a place that one can still download it for use with the current version of Rev? In RevOnline (in Rev's toolbar) search for the "MetaCard Setup" s

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread Andre Garzia
David, I think they have a Yahoo! group where you can download it but the address of the group is unknown to me right now. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 7:15 PM, D.Coker wrote: > >Andre Garzia wrote: > >> What is the control browser? Never seen it... > > > >In the MC IDE, choose Control Browser from

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread D.Coker
>Andre Garzia wrote: >> What is the control browser? Never seen it... > >In the MC IDE, choose Control Browser from the Tools menu. You will see >a list of objects on the current card. You can quickly change the >layering order from there, click a button to edit any object script, or >double-cli

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Andre Garzia wrote: What is the control browser? Never seen it... In the MC IDE, choose Control Browser from the Tools menu. You will see a list of objects on the current card. You can quickly change the layering order from there, click a button to edit any object script, or double-click to

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread J. Landman Gay
Wilhelm Sanke wrote: I do not care too much how the historical icons look, what I care about is the functionality of the Metacard IDE. Above all I like the quickly accessible "Control Browser", which is my main tool during programming. I like MC's control browser too. Sometimes I only want to

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread Andre Garzia
What is the control browser? Never seen it... On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Wilhelm Sanke wrote: > I do not care too much how the historical icons look, what I care about is > the functionality of the Metacard IDE. Above all I like the quickly > accessible "Control Browser", which is my main t

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-15 Thread Wilhelm Sanke
I do not care too much how the historical icons look, what I care about is the functionality of the Metacard IDE. Above all I like the quickly accessible "Control Browser", which is my main tool during programming. Also: No interference from front- or backscripts in the IDE. The workflow - for

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Judy Perry
make that, "saying"... g. Judy On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Judy Perry wrote: I remember thinking (and probably even staying rather loudly) that its UI elements (icons) looked like they were done by a 5 year old on acid... Judy On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 14 Dec 2009

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Judy Perry
I remember thinking (and probably even staying rather loudly) that its UI elements (icons) looked like they were done by a 5 year old on acid... Judy On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Robert Brenstein wrote: On 14 Dec 2009, at 01:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. I remem

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Shari
I use it because it's a lot less cranky, it stays out of the way, and it doesn't clutter my screen. Plus I prefer the Control Browser. Much easier to see what's where. Shari -- Critters, humor, patriots and sports t-shirts http://www.villagetshirts.com WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware ht

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Robert Brenstein
On 14 Dec 2009, at 01:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. I remember that we used to refer to its interface as "spartan" when comparing to Rev IDE in its earlier days... Robert ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revol

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: That blatant pandering to creative types was the thin end of the wedge. Within three years, even the splash screen was upgraded. I blame the parents. Blame Scott Rossi, he did it. Them artist types, you just can't please 'em. Keep it up

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, Jacque Landman Gay wrote: >> That blatant >> pandering to creative types was the thin end of the wedge. Within >> three years, even the splash screen was upgraded. >> >> I blame the parents. > > Blame Scott Rossi, he did it. Them artist types, you just can't please 'em. Keep it up, La

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
Dave Cragg wrote: On 14 Dec 2009, at 01:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. It used to be that way. At one time, it was a purist's dream. The rot set in about 1999 when the image icon was upgraded from something that looked like a wire pan scourer to something else.

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Dave Cragg
On 14 Dec 2009, at 01:55, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. It used to be that way. At one time, it was a purist's dream. The rot set in about 1999 when the image icon was upgraded from something that looked like a wire pan scourer to something else. That blatant pa

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread J. Landman Gay
Hugh Senior wrote: stephen barncard wrote: It's also prettier than the MC IDE. Jacqueline Landman Gay Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. The bottom of my parrot cage is prettier than the MC IDE. ;) I use MC. After 10 years I'm kinda used to it. Pretty? I have been known to decorate th

RE: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-14 Thread Hugh Senior
stephen barncard wrote: > It's also prettier than the MC IDE. Jacqueline Landman Gay > Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. The bottom of my parrot cage is > prettier than the MC IDE. ;) I use MC. After 10 years I'm kinda used to it. Pretty? I have been known to decorate the IDE with images o

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-13 Thread J. Landman Gay
stephen barncard wrote: It's also prettier than the MC IDE. Anything is prettier than the MC IDE. The bottom of my parrot cage is prettier than the MC IDE. ;) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com _

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-13 Thread stephen barncard
Speaking of IDEs, Jerry's tRev is kind of a 'remote' IDE with his little agents running around. I found out about another 'feature' that was there from the beginning. When your stack or Rev crashes, tRev stays running and doesn't freak out. It just sits there, with your current scripts. So you ca

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-13 Thread Vokey, John
On 2009-12-13, at 11:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote: > Can someone give me a quick summary of why I might want to use the > MetaCard IDE instead > of RunRev's? It seems that a lot of users of this group use MC. Is it > just what you were used > to or is there some featu

Re: Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-12 Thread J. Landman Gay
Len Morgan wrote: Can someone give me a quick summary of why I might want to use the MetaCard IDE instead of RunRev's? It seems that a lot of users of this group use MC. Is it just what you were used to or is there some feature that Rev's doesn't? Just curious. I think "a lot of users" ma

Rev IDE vs MetaCard IDE

2009-12-12 Thread Len Morgan
Can someone give me a quick summary of why I might want to use the MetaCard IDE instead of RunRev's? It seems that a lot of users of this group use MC. Is it just what you were used to or is there some feature that Rev's doesn't? Just curious. len ___