Re: COPY PROTECTION of Rev Project

2010-03-04 Thread Richmond Mathewson
saying that rampant worldwide piracy of Windows had greatly helped Microsoft capture the market, because it kept Linux at bay. In certain cases, how might a lack of copy protection work as a competitive tool? Thanks, Ted The Open Source model seems to work: download for free, then donate if yo

COPY PROTECTION of Rev Project

2010-03-04 Thread Ted
Windows had greatly helped Microsoft capture the market, because it kept Linux at bay. In certain cases, how might a lack of copy protection work as a competitive tool? Thanks, Ted ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Plea

AW: AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-13 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Andres, thanks for your thoughts Tiemo > > Hello > > Within the gaming industry the common point of view is that "All demos > are hack-able". However, we think this is a mediocre consolation to > the DRM challenge. > > Therefore, contrary to what many developers suggest, we are very > protect

Re: AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-12 Thread Andres Martinez
ur Eric, yes I understand the sensibility of the subject and I didn't expected to find solutions, but thoughts, as yours. Up to now, I handled my copy protection with the absolute minimum of work, with taking a copy protection tool on CD, as I said in my first post, but I would like

Re: AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
oblem unless multiplying files in different places with 'unknown' names :-) Le 12 août 08 à 17:38, Tiemo Hollmann TB a écrit : Bonjour Eric, yes I understand the sensibility of the subject and I didn't expected to find solutions, but thoughts, as yours. Up to now, I handled my

AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Bonjour Eric, yes I understand the sensibility of the subject and I didn't expected to find solutions, but thoughts, as yours. Up to now, I handled my copy protection with the absolute minimum of work, with taking a copy protection tool on CD, as I said in my first post, but I would li

Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-12 Thread Eric Chatonet
ready discussed a few times, but I didn't found any "satisfying" answers in the archives. I am looking for a copy protection / or licensing system with a minimum on handling / trouble for me which gives a good protection for the average user. No protection against cracks is requi

AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-12 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
t; Betreff: Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac? > > I believe most of us who develop commercial apps have our own spin on > how to do this best-- and are certainly reluctant to share our > techniques in an open list such as this. > > That said, for me there are a n

Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-11 Thread Chipp Walters
know pirates won't buy your software, no matter what. So, you don't 'lose' a sale when someone pirates your software. That said, the honor system doesn't work either. Asking or reminding someone to consider purchasing your app just doesn't work anymore. So for me, the

AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-11 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Richard, thanks for reminding me, I didn't thought about that. But "Satisfying" would have been more approaches, which would point into "my" direction (not fixed solutions) Thanks Tiemo > > What would be "satisfying"? > > You won't find much in the way of actual code published here for this, >

Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Richard Gaskin
Tiemo wrote: this topic is already discussed a few times, but I didn't found any "satisfying" answers in the archives. What would be "satisfying"? You won't find much in the way of actual code published here for this, since it would make it too easy for crackers to make keygens. -- Richard

AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Björnke, your three are just the points, I am calculating too. Thats why I used up to now the ProtectCD lock, which is without any implementation from my side, pretty errorless (less than 0,5% support cases), not to be copied for the standard user and in my case no disturbing for having the CD i

AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Terry, I will have a look for SecuROM, probably I have to find a new "burning factory" (how do you call this in English?) how works with SecuROM Thanks for the hint Tiemo > > I'm almost certain SecuROM is cross-platform. We delivered a couple of > educational products using it (the clients,

AW: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hi Mark, > > For a real hacker, not the quantity but the challenge counts. > ;) > > I created a few installers for clients of mine, some with limited copy > protection. You might use the CD serial number incombination with the > MAC address of a network device. You can

Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Björnke von Gierke
On 8 Aug 2008, at 11:50, Terry Judd wrote: I'm almost certain SecuROM is cross-platform. The problem with most "Security" systems you can buy is that they often cause instabilities, slowdowns and malfunctions on your customers pc's, and you'll be unable to rectify them. As these systems

Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Terry Judd
#x27;t found any > "satisfying" answers in the archives. > > I am looking for a copy protection / or licensing system with a minimum on > handling / trouble for me which gives a good protection for the average > user. No protection against cracks is required, because the

Re: OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Mark Schonewille
Hi Tiemo, For a real hacker, not the quantity but the challenge counts. I created a few installers for clients of mine, some with limited copy protection. You might use the CD serial number incombination with the MAC address of a network device. You can put a few PHP or Perl scripts on a

OT: copy protection / licensing for Mac?

2008-08-08 Thread Tiemo Hollmann TB
Hello, this topic is already discussed a few times, but I didn't found any "satisfying" answers in the archives. I am looking for a copy protection / or licensing system with a minimum on handling / trouble for me which gives a good protection for the average user. No protection

Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev

2007-04-19 Thread Scott Kane
Well, according to their documentation the executable is modified somehow (there is a desktop tool available for modifying Windows executables but you have to send Mac apps away to some dudes in Austria), which is why I'm curious. You'll have to experiment. I've had zero success wrapping Re

Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev

2007-04-19 Thread Terry Judd
>> The SecuROM copy protection has been requested by a client so that's the >> way >> we have to go. We've used SecuROM with Director applications before >> without >> any problems but they (Director apps) are 'officially' supported within >&g

Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev

2007-04-19 Thread Scott Kane
Original Message - The SecuROM copy protection has been requested by a client so that's the way we have to go. We've used SecuROM with Director applications before without any problems but they (Director apps) are 'officially' supported within the encryptio

Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev

2007-04-19 Thread Terry Judd
a follow-up that takes it a bit further in the future. > > Scott Kane Hi Scott, The SecuROM copy protection has been requested by a client so that's the way we have to go. We've used SecuROM with Director applications before without any problems but they (Director apps) are 'offic

Re: SecuROM copy protection and Rev

2007-04-19 Thread Scott Kane
Does anyone have any experience of employing Rev executables on CDs protected with Sony's SecuROM process - i.e. Does it work? No direct experience. However a quick Google search reveals that (I'm not going to post the Google search for obvious reasons) that it's no more secure than any ot

SecuROM copy protection and Rev

2007-04-19 Thread Terry Judd
Does anyone have any experience of employing Rev executables on CDs protected with Sony's SecuROM process - i.e. Does it work? Regards, Terry... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubsc

Re: copy protection

2007-04-03 Thread Mark Talluto
On Apr 3, 2007, at 2:34 AM, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Exactly. Can somebody share a few tricks to make content on a CD being unusable after being copied? Its a small niche soft (specialized biodiversity database and an e-book). Likely there will be no attempts to crack it, however we would li

Re: copy protection

2007-04-03 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
Exactly. Can somebody share a few tricks to make content on a CD being unusable after being copied? Its a small niche soft (specialized biodiversity database and an e-book). Likely there will be no attempts to crack it, however we would like to be able to sell at least 200 copies of the CD before i

Re: copy protection

2007-04-02 Thread Mark Talluto
On Apr 2, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Hi, what tricks do you usually use to tie an application to a CD to prevent it from being copied ? Are there any "native" tricks that can be implemented in Rev? No extremely strong protection is required, just to prevent ordinary users

Re: copy protection

2007-04-02 Thread Derek Bump
Viktoras Didziulis wrote: what tricks do you usually use to tie an application to a CD to prevent it from being copied ? Are there any "native" tricks that can be implemented in Rev? Well, I do believe that Sony attempted to use the AutoStart feature of most systems on a root level in order to

copy protection

2007-04-02 Thread Viktoras Didziulis
Hi, what tricks do you usually use to tie an application to a CD to prevent it from being copied ? Are there any "native" tricks that can be implemented in Rev? No extremely strong protection is required, just to prevent ordinary users copying and redistributing a live cd database app until about

Re: copy protection

2005-01-09 Thread kee nethery
On Jan 9, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Byron Turner wrote: Indeed a loss of only 1/3 doesn't sound too bad, but this was a special case with great support from the instructor and direct sales to the students with a discount.. It is also a very short term class leaving little time for copying between stude

Re: copy protection

2005-01-09 Thread Chipp Walters
One problem with a discussion of copy protection techniques, is invariably one wants to 'keep secret' the best techniques and not publish them to say...a list-group of developers ;-) That being said, the best copy protection technique we use is auto and frequent updates from the web. Only re

Re: copy protection

2005-01-09 Thread Byron Turner
Indeed a loss of only 1/3 doesn't sound too bad, but this was a special case with great support from the instructor and direct sales to the students with a discount.. It is also a very short term class leaving little time for copying between students. I have great fear of what will happen in

Re: copy protection

2005-01-09 Thread Gordon Webster
Dear Byron First off, I would say that 22 out of a class of 33 isn't bad at all - if most students had decided to share a copy of your software and work together in pairs, you might have expected only 50% (or even less if they worked together in larger study groups). I have polled this list about

copy protection

2005-01-09 Thread Byron Turner
This week we got the results of the first adoption of our flagship product Created Equal: Sex and Gender. The professor is using it as a text in a class of 33. Only 22 students bought it. While a couple students are sharing materials, the rest I fear is theft. In 2 weeks it will be used in

Re: Copy protection

2003-04-05 Thread kee nethery
On Thursday, April 3, 2003, at 10:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for your insights. I know it is impossible to prevent application to be copyed. I was looking for a "trivial protection", an "unlock code" linked to the name of the user similar to the unlock code of revolution. Sugge

Re: Copy protection

2003-04-04 Thread Richard Gaskin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thank you for your insights. I know it is impossible to prevent application > to be copyed. > I was looking for a "trivial protection", an "unlock code" linked to the name > of the user similar to the unlock code of revolution. > So, I had my application to register th

Re: Copy protection

2003-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
f the user in a file, stored in the preferences folder. I wondered how lonk my code to the the name of the user. ChartoNum function wuold be a solution, but is is too trivial, I think. Ciao Paolo On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 11:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How can I add to my application

Re: Copy protection

2003-04-03 Thread kee nethery
On Saturday, March 22, 2003, at 11:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I add to my application a copy protection? I wuold like to distribute my application freely, but I'd like users to ask me for a code when thay need to save their files. Ciao, Paolo Mazza Protection against copying a

Copy protection

2003-03-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How can I add to my application a copy protection? I wuold like to distribute my application freely, but I'd like users to ask me for a code when thay need to save their files. Ciao, Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]