Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-18 Thread Jeff Jirsa
Comments inline > On Feb 18, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Kenneth Brotman > wrote: > > Cassandra feels like an unfinished program to me. The problem is not that > it’s open source or cutting edge. It’s an open source cutting edge program > that lacks some of its basic functionality. We are all stuck

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
Comments inline >-Original Message- >From: Jeff Jirsa [mailto:jji...@gmail.com] >Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:58 PM >To: user@cassandra.apache.org >Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org >Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! > >Comments inline &g

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-19 Thread Jeff Jirsa
:jji...@gmail.com] > >Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:58 PM > >To: user@cassandra.apache.org > >Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org > >Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! > > > >Comments inline > > > > > >> On Feb 18, 2018, at 9:39 PM,

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
Well said. Very fair. I wouldn’t mind hearing from others still. You’re a good guy! Kenneth Brotman From: Jeff Jirsa [mailto:jji...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:10 AM To: cassandra Cc: Cassandra DEV Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! There

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-19 Thread Kenneth Brotman
would have help me. Kenneth Brotman From: Kenneth Brotman [mailto:kenbrot...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 10:43 AM To: 'user@cassandra.apache.org' Cc: 'd...@cassandra.apache.org' Subject: RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! Well said. Ve

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-19 Thread James Briggs
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Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-20 Thread Daniel Hölbling-Inzko
gt; *To:* user@cassandra.apache.org > *Cc:* d...@cassandra.apache.org > *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2018 4:56 PM > > *Subject:* RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! > > Jeff, you helped me figure out what I was missing. It just took me a day > to digest what

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-20 Thread Kyrylo Lebediev
1:28:13 AM To: user@cassandra.apache.org; James Briggs Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! Hi, I have to add my own two cents here as the main thing that keeps me from really running Cassandra is the amount of pain running it incurs. Not so much because i

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-20 Thread Carl Mueller
3rd party automations and integrations etc]. > > By the Community I mean all of us including myself. > > > > Regards, > > Kyrill > -- > *From:* Daniel Hölbling-Inzko > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 11:28:13 AM > *To:* user@cassa

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-20 Thread Russell Bateman
I ask Cassandra to be a database that is high-performance, highly scalable with no single point of failure. Anything "cool" that's added beyond must be added only as a separate, optional ring around Cassandra and must not get in the way of my usage. Yes, I would like some help with some of wha

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-20 Thread Kenneth Brotman
Sf4McGN1AQ Kenneth Brotman -Original Message- From: Daniel Hölbling-Inzko [mailto:daniel.hoelbling-in...@bitmovin.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:28 AM To: user@cassandra.apache.org; James Briggs Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! Hi,

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-20 Thread Prasenjit Sarkar
> From: Daniel Hölbling-Inzko [mailto:daniel.hoelbling-in...@bitmovin.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:28 AM > To: user@cassandra.apache.org; James Briggs > Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org > Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! > > Hi, > > I have t

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Daniel Hölbling-Inzko
---Original Message- > From: Daniel Hölbling-Inzko [mailto:daniel.hoelbling-in...@bitmovin.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:28 AM > To: user@cassandra.apache.org; James Briggs > Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org > Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! > &g

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread DuyHai Doan
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sf4McGN1AQ >> >> Kenneth Brotman >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Daniel Hölbling-Inzko [mailto:daniel.hoelbling-in...@bitmovin.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:28 AM >> To: user@cassandra.apache.org; James Briggs &g

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Ben Slater
for Azure Cosmos DB: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Sf4McGN1AQ >>> >>> Kenneth Brotman >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Daniel Hölbling-Inzko [mailto:daniel.hoelbling-in...@bitmovin.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:2

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Oleksandr Shulgin
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Kenneth Brotman < kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > >> Cluster wide management should be a big theme in any next major release. > >> > >Na. Stability and testing should be a big theme in the next major release. > > > > Double Na on that one Jeff. I think y

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Josh McKenzie
There's a disheartening amount of "here's where Cassandra is bad, and here's what it needs to do for me for free" happening in this thread. This is open-source software. Everyone is *strongly encouraged* to submit a patch to move the needle on *any* of these things being complained about in this t

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Kenneth Brotman
e.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:28 AM To: d...@cassandra.apache.org Cc: User Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! There's a disheartening amount of "here's where Cassandra is bad, and here's what it needs to do for me for free" happening in

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread DuyHai Doan
s to get going, and it's elastically and globally scalable." > > More to come, > > Kenneth Brotman > > -----Original Message- > From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:28 AM > To: d...@cassandra.apache.org > Cc

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Durity, Sean R
McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:28 AM To: d...@cassandra.apache.org Cc: User Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! There's a disheartening amount of "here's where Cassandra is bad, and here's what it ne

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Jon Haddad
re to come, > > Kenneth Brotman > > -----Original Message- > From: Josh McKenzie [mailto:jmcken...@apache.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:28 AM > To: d...@cassandra.apache.org > Cc: User > Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! > &

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Kenneth Brotman
ail.com] On Behalf Of Jon Haddad Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:44 PM To: user@cassandra.apache.org Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! Ken, Maybe it’s not clear how open source projects work, so let me try to explain. There’s a bunch of us who eith

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Akash Gangil
gt; > > -Original Message- > From: Jon Haddad [mailto:jonathan.had...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jon > Haddad > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 12:44 PM > To: user@cassandra.apache.org > Cc: d...@cassandra.apache.org > Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Versio

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Kenneth Brotman
ebruary 21, 2018 2:24 PM To: d...@cassandra.apache.org Cc: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! I would second Jon in the arguments he made. Contributing outside work is draining and really requires a lot of commitment. If someone requires features around

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Brandon Williams
gt; like you I am driven by real important projects that I feel compelled > > to work on for the good of others. I don't have time for people to > > hand hold a database and I can't get stuck with my projects on the wrong > stuff. > > > > Kenneth Brotman > > >

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Jeff Jirsa
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Kenneth Brotman < kenbrot...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > Hi Akash, > > I get the part about outside work which is why in replying to Jeff Jirsa I > was suggesting the big companies could justify taking it on easy enough and > you know actually pay the people who wo

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Jason Brown
ne and quick. How do approach programming if you > aren't trying to make things easy. > > Kenneth Brotman > > -Original Message- > From: Akash Gangil [mailto:akashg1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:24 PM > To: d...@cassandra.apache.org > C

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Chris Lohfink
the > time, they would be gone and quick. How do approach programming if you > aren't trying to make things easy. > > Kenneth Brotman > > -Original Message- > From: Akash Gangil [mailto:akashg1...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 2:24 PM > To

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread kurt greaves
> > Instead of saying "Make X better" you can quantify "Here's how we can make > X better" in a jira and the conversation will continue with interested > parties (opening jiras are free!). Being combative and insulting project on > mailing list may help vent some frustrations but it is counter prod

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Kenneth Brotman
misjudged me. Wow. Kenneth Brotman From: Jeff Jirsa [mailto:jji...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 3:12 PM To: cassandra Cc: Cassandra DEV Subject: Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 2:53 PM, Kenneth Brotman wrote: Hi Akash, I get

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-21 Thread Oleksandr Shulgin
On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Durity, Sean R wrote: > > > However, I think the shots at Cassandra are generally unfair. When I > started working with it, the DataStax documentation was some of the best > documentation I had seen on any project, especially an open source one. > Oh, don't get m

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-22 Thread Eric Plowe
Cassandra, hard to use? I disagree completely. With that said, there are definitely deficiencies in certain parts of the documentation, but nothing that is a show stopper. We’ve been using Cassandra since the sub 1.0 days and have had nothing but great things to say about it. With that said, its a

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-22 Thread Jacques-Henri Berthemet
lto:kenbrot...@yahoo.com.INVALID] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 11:54 PM To: d...@cassandra.apache.org Cc: user@cassandra.apache.org Subject: RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five! Hi Akash, I get the part about outside work which is why in replying to Jeff Jirsa I was suggesting the bi

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-22 Thread Sylvain Lebresne
> > I have to disagree with people here and point out that just creating > JIRA's and (trying to) have discussions about these issues will not lead to > change in any reasonable timeframe, because everyone who could do the work > has an endless list of bigger fish to fry. I strongly encourage you t

Re: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-22 Thread Oleksandr Shulgin
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:50 AM, Eric Plowe wrote: > Cassandra, hard to use? I disagree completely. With that said, there are > definitely deficiencies in certain parts of the documentation, but nothing > that is a show stopper. True, there are no show-stoppers from the docs side, it's just all

RE: Cassandra Needs to Grow Up by Version Five!

2018-02-23 Thread Kenneth Brotman
A sincere thank you for everyone that replied. I will heavy lift the docs for a while, do my Slender Cassandra reference project and then I’ll try to find one or two areas where I can contribute code to get going on that. I'll have a few JIRA's started by the end of the workday. Kenneth Brot