Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread Adrien Mogenet
for hours, consider it 4th replica  outside of hadoop Jack *From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread Jack Levin
:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread Andrew Purtell
for hours, consider it 4th replica  outside of hadoop Jack *From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread yiyu jia
 outside of hadoop Jack *From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread Andrew Purtell
You bring up a very common consideration I think. For static content, such as images, then a cache can help offload read load from the datastore. This fits into this conversation. For dynamic content, then an external caching may not be helpful as you say, although blockcache within HBase will

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread yiyu jia
Hi Andy, Thanks a lot for sharing. Yes. I am not talking about static content caching, which may be called as internal CDN today. I am asking some techniques of configuring cache on different layers with concerning about avoiding duplicate caching on different layers. thanks and regards, Yiyu

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-28 Thread Andrew Purtell
In that case, then hypothetically speaking, you could disable HBase blockcache on the table containing static content and rely on an external reverse proxy tier, and enable HBase blockcache on the tables that you are using as part of generation of dynamic content. On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 1:44

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-27 Thread yiyu jia
@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am assuming you had to increase the following

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-27 Thread Jack Levin
hbase is down for hours, consider it 4th replica  outside of hadoop Jack *From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-27 Thread Jack Levin
, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-27 Thread Jack Levin
hbase is down for hours, consider it 4th replica  outside of hadoop Jack *From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-26 Thread S Ahmed
*From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-26 Thread Jack Levin
To: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-24 Thread S Ahmed
: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am assuming you had to increase the following parameters in addition to increase the memstore size

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-24 Thread Jack Levin
:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-23 Thread Jack Levin
for hours, consider it 4th replica  outside of hadoop Jack *From:* Mohit Anchlia mohitanch...@gmail.com *Sent:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-21 Thread Varun Sharma
: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am assuming you had to increase the following parameters in addition to increase the memstore size

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-21 Thread Varun Sharma
:* ‎January‎ ‎13‎, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am assuming you had to increase

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-20 Thread Jack Levin
Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves delivery

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-17 Thread Varun Sharma
‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am assuming you had to increase the following parameters

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-13 Thread Mohit Anchlia
images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves delivery of images for Yfrog and ImageShack. If you have any questions about the setup, I would be glad to answer them

RE: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-13 Thread Jack Levin
, ‎2013 ‎7‎:‎48‎ ‎AM *To:* user@hbase.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Storing images in Hbase Thanks Jack for sharing this information. This definitely makes sense when using the type of caching layer. You mentioned about increasing write cache, I am assuming you had to increase the following parameters

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-11 Thread Michael Segel
: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves delivery of images for Yfrog and ImageShack. If you have any questions about the setup, I would be glad to answer them. -Jack On Sun

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-11 Thread Mohammad Tariq
this somewhere? Something that we could link from the HBase homepage? -- Lars - Original Message - From: Jack Levin magn...@gmail.com To: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-11 Thread Mohit Anchlia
- From: Jack Levin magn...@gmail.com To: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-11 Thread Jack Levin
Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves delivery of images

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-11 Thread Jack Levin
@hbase.apache.org Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves delivery

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-11 Thread Marcos Ortiz
Levin magn...@gmail.com To: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Jack Levin
We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves delivery of images for Yfrog and ImageShack. If you have any questions about the setup, I would be glad to answer them. -Jack On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 1:09 PM,

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Leonid Fedotov
Jack, yes, this is very interesting to know your setup details. Could you please provide more information? Or we can take this off the list if you like… Thank you! Sincerely, Leonid Fedotov On Jan 10, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Jack Levin wrote: We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Mohammad Tariq
Jack, Leonid, I request you guys to please continue the discussion through the thread itself if possible for you both. I would like to know about Jack's setup. I too find it quite interesting. Many thanks. Warm Regards, Tariq https://mtariq.jux.com/ On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 12:50 AM,

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Marcos Ortiz
This is a very interesting setup to analyze. I´m working in a similar problem with HBase, so, any help is welcome. El 10/01/2013 16:39, Doug Meil escribió: +1. This question comes up enough on the dist-list it's worth getting some pointers on record. On 1/10/13 2:24 PM, Mohammad Tariq

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Leonid Fedotov
I'm voting for continuing here as well… So, location is up to Jack. :) Thank you! Sincerely, Leonid Fedotov On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Mohammad Tariq wrote: Jack, Leonid, I request you guys to please continue the discussion through the thread itself if possible for you both. I would

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Mohammad Tariq
Thanks Leonid. Warm Regards, Tariq https://mtariq.jux.com/ On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 2:15 AM, Leonid Fedotov lfedo...@hortonworks.comwrote: I'm voting for continuing here as well… So, location is up to Jack. :) Thank you! Sincerely, Leonid Fedotov On Jan 10, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Mohammad

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread Michael Segel
Been there, done that... kind of an interesting problem... Someone earlier said that HBase isn't good for images. It works pretty well, again it depends on the use case. Your schema is also going to play a role and you're going to have to tune things a little differently because when you

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-10 Thread shashwat shriparv
...@gmail.com To: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Storing images in Hbase We stored about 1 billion images into hbase with file size up to 10MB. Its been running for close to 2 years without issues and serves

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Damien Hardy
Hi there, Thank you, and happy new year. I had the same problematic and wrote a python module⁰ for thumbor¹ I use the Thrift interface for HBase to store image blobs. As allready said you have to keep images blob quite small (for latency problematic in web you have to keep them small too) ~100ko,

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Yusup Ashrap
there are a lot great discussions on Quora on this topic. http://www.quora.com/Apache-Hadoop/Is-HBase-appropriate-for-indexed-blob-storage-in-HDFS http://www.quora.com/Is-it-possible-to-use-HDFS-HBase-to-serve-images

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Andrew Purtell
Also YFrog / ImageShack serves all of its assets out of HBase too, so for reasonably sized images some are having success. See http://www.slideshare.net/jacque74/hug-hbase-presentation On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 3:58 AM, Yusup Ashrap aph...@gmail.com wrote: there are a lot great discussions on

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Asaf Mesika
What's the penalty performance wise of saving a very large value in a KeyValue in hbase? Splits, scans, etc. Sent from my iPad On 6 בינו 2013, at 22:12, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org wrote: Also YFrog / ImageShack serves all of its assets out of HBase too, so for reasonably sized images

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Amandeep Khurana
To add to Andy's point - storing images in HBase is fine as long as the size of each image isn't huge. A couple for MBs per row in HBase do just fine. But once you start getting into 10s of MBs, there are more optimal solutions you can explore and HBase might not be the best bet. Amandeep On Jan

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Andrew Purtell
What do you mean by very large? One possible source of performance concern is HBase RPC does not do positioned/chunked/partial reads, so both on the RegionServer and client the entirety of value data will be in the heap. A lot of really large objects brought in this way under high concurrency can

Re: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-06 Thread Mohit Anchlia
I have done extensive testing and have found that blobs don't belong in the databases but are rather best left out on the file system. Andrew outlined issues that you'll face and not to mention IO issues when compaction occurs over large files. On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Andrew Purtell

Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-05 Thread kavishahuja
this message in context: http://apache-hbase.679495.n3.nabble.com/Storing-images-in-Hbase-tp4036184.html Sent from the HBase User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

答复: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-05 Thread 谢良
Just out of curiousity, why not considering a blob storage system ? Best Regards, Liang 发件人: kavishahuja [kavishah...@yahoo.com] 发送时间: 2013年1月5日 18:11 收件人: user@hbase.apache.org 主题: Storing images in Hbase *Hello EVERYBODY first of all, a happy new year

Re: 答复: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-05 Thread Mohit Anchlia
[kavishah...@yahoo.com] 发送时间: 2013年1月5日 18:11 收件人: user@hbase.apache.org 主题: Storing images in Hbase *Hello EVERYBODY first of all, a happy new year to everyone !! I need a small help regarding pushing images into apache HBase(DB)...i know its about converting objects into bytes and then saving

答复: 答复: Storing images in Hbase

2013-01-05 Thread 谢良
: 2013年1月6日 13:45 收件人: user@hbase.apache.org Cc: user@hbase.apache.org 主题: Re: 答复: Storing images in Hbase IMHO Use dfs unread for blobs and use Hbase for meta data Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2013, at 7:58 PM, 谢良 xieli...@xiaomi.com wrote: Just out of curiousity, why not considering a blob