Re: Another Date Time Format

2011-01-29 Thread Nick Broadhurst
Thanks for the suggestion. This is what I ended figuring out after I figured out what date/time format my property of type java.util.Date would accept: "/> A ugly hack in order nest in the hidden field. If anyone know how to do this properly just using I would appreciate it. Nick On Sat

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Newton
I'd just search back through the list archives; I don't recall if it was in user or dev. Around 2008-2009-ish (perhaps a smidge earlier?), Musachy was the main driver, and I'm pretty sure he was using something out of Tomcat. Dave On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Dave Evans wrote: > On Sat, Jan

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Evans
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:01 PM, Dave Newton wrote: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dave Evans wrote: > > I am thinking about trying to duplicate/re-use/wrap/etc jstl in a >> framework for use in a non-web templates, just trying to find out if >> there is already work being done on this idea. M

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Newton
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Dave Evans wrote: > Would you like to elaborate on what makes it a poor general purpose > templating language? XML isn't a templating language, it's a data exchange format. XML is human-hostile. > The el is easy to read The EL itself, maybe. JSP, not so much.

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Evans
I am using it primarily for emails, but I need to be able to call the templatizing method from within a business layer class. Something like: Template template = new Template(path); Map map = getDataForEmail(); String result = template.templatize(map); On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:13 PM, Chris Pr

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Evans
Would you like to elaborate on what makes it a poor general purpose templating language? The el is easy to read and can handle nested objects, arrays and maps. Most importantly, since I choose to use it for my web presentation, I'd rather not have an entire other spec to keep track of. Why bother?

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Chris Pratt
Are you using this for generating emails from web applications? I developed a tag library that allows you to generate text/html emails using JSP and it works great with Struts/Tiles/Spring. (It would probably work with Freemarker/Velocity as well, I've just never tried it) (*Chris*) On Sat, Jan

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Newton
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Dave Evans wrote: > Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single > "language" for both web and non-web presentation. > Ew. IMO JSP is a poor general-purpose templating language, and makes less sense for non-web presentation. IIRC Musachy

Re: [OT?] standalone jsp

2011-01-29 Thread Dave Evans
Yes, I currently use velocity. But i'd really rather just use a single "language" for both web and non-web presentation. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:01 PM, Maurizio Cucchiara wrote: > Personally, I prefer velocity [1] or freemarker [2]. They have a good > learning curve (especially velocity), they