RE: Books on JSF

2006-04-20 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
I Like Core JSF as well, along with the O'Reilly book JavaServer Faces by Hans Bergsten (which I feel does a better job going over certain concepts). Both books describe working with JSF and Tiles, which I found useful. (For more information about working with JSF and Tiles, e.g., using a single t

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-22 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
OK, thanks. I'll look at that. - Brendan -Original Message- From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 4:55 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)"

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-22 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
If you are using the shale test framework with simple junit tests, the test framework doesn't digest your faces-confg.xml anyway. You have to do that kind of setup in the test cases. The isolated code you want to test in the managed beans would just use a indirect reference (the managed bean name

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-22 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Sorry, ignore that last paragraph. ;-) - Brendan -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 3:47 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework Well, the thing that's nice about my approach is that al

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-22 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
3:37 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Are you saying I should register my delegates as JSF managed beans? > Sure, why not? The faces IoC container is not spri

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-22 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
t;CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > In case anyone else was in the same boat I was in trying to run the Shale Test > Framework "in isolation" on the Web Tier of a 3-tier application, I did come up > with a technique that doesn't depend upon Spring

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-22 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: SV: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework Hi Easy: Spring. It's all done with configuration. In a no "EJB container available" setting, you configure spring to return a different service than when you have EJB container available. Hermod ---

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-17 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
nal testing (browser-based) tools to test maintenance changes. - Brendan -Original Message- From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:37 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework Cool. Actually, all joking aside, I'

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
the Test Framework I'm just telling you what I find easier. > -Original Message- > From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:51 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework &g

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Although those are interesting comments, they don't address my basic point about the amount of effort required to mock up all those calls. ;-) - Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:41 PM To: user@struts.apache.o

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Hi If you have not looked at Spring before: Boy do you have something in store for you. Hermod -Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. februar 2006 22:31 Til: Struts Users Mailing List Emne: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework Sigh. OK,

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Mailing List' Subject: SV: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework Hi Easy: Spring. It's all done with configuration. In a no "EJB container available" setting, you configure spring to return a different service than when you have EJB container available. Hermod -Opprinn

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Framework On 2/16/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > OK, I'll look at that. But, out of curiosity, how is the Shale Test > > Framework being used by people now? I

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
ra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] På vegne av Craig McClanahan Sendt: 16. februar 2006 20:18 Til: Struts Users Mailing List Emne: Re: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework On 2/16/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McClanahan Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 1:18 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework On 2/16/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PRO

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
OK, so maybe I have to learn more about the injection process. For all this talk about simplifying the process, it's starting to get complicated, but, hey, I'm flexible. ;-) Can someone point me to a resource that would explain this in more detail? It sounds like I have to create a bunch of alte

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
s, because then there would be no need for JSF support.) Thanks, - Brendan -Original Message- From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 11:31 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONN

RE: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
'd probably be much better served by taking a functional testing approach using something like, as Craig suggested, HtmlUnit or Cannoo. I'd also recommend taking a look at Selenium [1]; I haven't used it yet, but it looks very promising, depending on your needs. L. [1] http://www.o

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
of Enterprise Application Architecture" by Martin Fowler (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321127420/alberg30-20) - George Dinwiddie http://idiacomputing.com/moin/FavoriteBooks > -----Original Message----- > From: CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [shale] datatables request scope

2006-02-16 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
this way you can use request scope for just about anything. Mark On 2/16/06, Mark Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/15/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree that having a scope that is somewhere between "request" and > > "s

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-15 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework On 2/15/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But let's say my test executes an action method on my application's > managed bean. That method uses the mock objects and then tries to call &

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-15 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
2006 2:22 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > OK, sorry for being a little dense about this, but, if, for example, my > application code is referencing a FacesContext o

RE: [shale] datatables request scope

2006-02-15 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
l Message- From: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:57 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [shale] datatables request scope On 2/15/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmm. I must be coming from a different pers

RE: [shale] datatables request scope

2006-02-15 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Subject: Re: [shale] datatables request scope On 2/14/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2/14/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Isn't that functionally what the MyFaces component does? > > > Yes, but requires t

RE: [shale] datatables request scope

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
Isn't that functionally what the MyFaces component does? - Brendan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McClanahan Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:26 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [shale] datatables request scope [sni

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
ry 14, 2006 11:55 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem that the Shale Test Framework is > trying to solve. My JSF actions are doi

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
t: RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > OK, I'm going through the section in the PDF document ("Shale Framework > v.1.0.1-SNAPSHOT Project Documentation") on the Test Framework. In that > sect

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
ary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:42 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > OK, I'm going through the section in the PDF docu

RE: [shale] datatables request scope

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
rough multiple pages of a conversation. - Brendan -Original Message- From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 10:35 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [shale] datatables request scope >From: "CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI)" <[EMAI

RE: [shale] datatables request scope

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
As Gary mentioned, you can use the MyFaces component to carry bean values from one request to another. I'm new to Shale, but I saw something about a Dialog framework. Is that also supposed to address this issue? - Brendan -Original Message- From: Gary VanMatre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-14 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
OK, I'm going through the section in the PDF document ("Shale Framework v.1.0.1-SNAPSHOT Project Documentation") on the Test Framework. In that section, the example appears to involve creating a test class (SelectTestCase) in the same WAR project as the application code. Is this true? If so, how

RE: [SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-10 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
ALE] Using the Test Framework On 2/10/06, CONNER, BRENDAN (SBCSI) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Also, I noticed links to nightly downloads on the Shale project's web > site, but I was not able to locate any "release" downloads. Are there > "release" downloads

[SHALE] Using the Test Framework

2006-02-10 Thread CONNER, BRENDAN \(SBCSI\)
I'm new to Shale, but I've been using JSF (and the MyFaces implementation) for about 18 months now. I'm interested in utilizing the Test Framework that Shale offers, but I'm unsure about how much that framework depends upon the rest of Shale. Can I use it in isolation with a vanilla JSF applicati