Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Dakota Jack
Hi, Rick. The fact is that this gentleman asked for an opinion that will influence his business. I think he deserves an honest answer, even if the "debate" might be old hat to you. On 9/9/05, Rick Reumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Walton, Kaleb (ISS Southfield) wrote the following on 9/9/2005

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Dakota Jack
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:19 PM > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition > > > > Well, have you considered classic struts? Shale is really meant for > > people who are trying to change an application from JSF t

RE: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Walton, Kaleb \(ISS Southfield\)
I should've shut my mouth earlier :). Kaleb -Original Message- From: Frank W. Zammetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:18 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition I prefer to do all my webapps in Assembly running on d

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
08, 2005 12:44 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition Moving from Struts to JSF is moving to a "more defined" framework? That is pretty difficult to grasp. Could you explain? On 9/6/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Rick Reumann
Walton, Kaleb (ISS Southfield) wrote the following on 9/9/2005 9:17 AM: What do you mean by "inferior if you are interested in performance". Is the overhead of the dialog/navigation processing pretty high? Oh no:) Here we go again:)... JSF sucks. No, Sruts sucks. Spring rules. No, Spring suck

RE: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Gary VanMatre
Gary > -Original Message- > From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:19 PM > To: Struts Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition > > Well, have you considered classic struts? Shale is really meant for

RE: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-09 Thread Walton, Kaleb \(ISS Southfield\)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:44 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition > > Moving from Struts to JSF is moving to a "more defined" framework? > That is pretty difficult to gra

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-08 Thread gramani
Dakota Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/08/2005 04:18:46 PM: > Well, have you considered classic struts? Shale is really meant for > people who are trying to change an application from JSF to Struts, --do you really mean this?.. Even if you actually instead meant to say "from Struts to JSF

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-08 Thread Dakota Jack
ent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:44 AM > To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition > > Moving from Struts to JSF is moving to a "more defined" framework? > That is pretty difficult to grasp. Could you explain? > >

RE: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-08 Thread Walton, Kaleb \(ISS Southfield\)
page transitions, forwarding, etc. Regards, Kaleb -Original Message- From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:44 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: JSF -> Shale transition Moving from Struts to JSF is moving to a "

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-07 Thread Dakota Jack
Moving from Struts to JSF is moving to a "more defined" framework? That is pretty difficult to grasp. Could you explain? On 9/6/05, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 9/6/05, Walton, Kaleb (ISS Southfield) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > As I had mentioned in

Re: JSF -> Shale transition

2005-09-06 Thread Craig McClanahan
On 9/6/05, Walton, Kaleb (ISS Southfield) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey all, > > As I had mentioned in a previous post, our team is looking to move > towards a more well defined web framework. From my limited experience > using Shale (ran the shale-use-cases) I'm not feeling very confident >