Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-20 Thread James Strachan
On 20 July 2010 16:38, Ron Smith wrote: > Unfortunately, all those cool features (especially pooling and reconnect) > are exactly why I was wanting to use something like camel. This isn't the > first time that this companies unreasonable biases have limited my choices > of tools. I'm not a fan of

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-20 Thread Ron Smith
Unfortunately, all those cool features (especially pooling and reconnect) are exactly why I was wanting to use something like camel. This isn't the first time that this companies unreasonable biases have limited my choices of tools. I'm not a fan of spring or maven but I understand their value. I

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-20 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:17 PM, James Strachan wrote: > On 19 July 2010 22:12, Ron Smith wrote: >> I'm with you, Jim. I think that is part of why others at my company consider >> spring to be "evil" -- for a "light-weight" framework, there sure are a lot >> of pieces you have to include and they

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-20 Thread James Strachan
On 19 July 2010 22:12, Ron Smith wrote: > I'm with you, Jim. I think that is part of why others at my company consider > spring to be "evil" -- for a "light-weight" framework, there sure are a lot > of pieces you have to include and they seem to be growing and becoming more > intertwined with each

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-19 Thread Claus Ibsen
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Jim Newsham wrote: >  On 7/19/2010 8:13 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Ron Smith  wrote: >>> >>> Where I work, Spring has been declared "evil" so I am attempting to use >>> camel without any of the Spring JARs but I can't

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-19 Thread Ron Smith
I'm with you, Jim. I think that is part of why others at my company consider spring to be "evil" -- for a "light-weight" framework, there sure are a lot of pieces you have to include and they seem to be growing and becoming more intertwined with each new release. Like you, I'm not griping, it just

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-19 Thread Jim Newsham
On 7/19/2010 8:13 AM, Claus Ibsen wrote: Hi On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Ron Smith wrote: Where I work, Spring has been declared "evil" so I am attempting to use camel without any of the Spring JARs but I can't find any examples of how to setup a JMS component without a Spring dependency

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-19 Thread Ron Smith
So I am guessing that if I build my own JMS connection with the ProducerTemplate, than I lose all of the nice features of the camel jms component (like the reconnect logic, etc.) because the camel-jms is just a wrapper around the spring-jms. I would have to rebuild all of that myself without using

Re: JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-19 Thread Claus Ibsen
Hi On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Ron Smith wrote: > Where I work, Spring has been declared "evil" so I am attempting to use > camel without any of the Spring JARs but I can't find any examples of how to > setup a JMS component without a Spring dependency. I am using Tibco as the > JMS provide

JMS Component WITHOUT Spring

2010-07-19 Thread Ron Smith
Where I work, Spring has been declared "evil" so I am attempting to use camel without any of the Spring JARs but I can't find any examples of how to setup a JMS component without a Spring dependency. I am using Tibco as the JMS provider and it is providing JNDI. Here is a sample code snippet which