Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-14 Thread Ben Anderson
The verdict - enhydra shark rules! If you're looking into workflow - definitely check out shark. -Ben - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-13 Thread oliver charlet
please let me know, what your jury tells you, ok? thanx :olli   Ben Anderson schrieb: Oliver, Thanks for the input... van der Aalst? actually I've got his paper open right now, but haven't finished it yet. there is *NO* standard BPM language My jury

Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-13 Thread Markus Heussen
Hi all, thanks for all your answers at this time. Meanwhile we analyse different Open Source implementations of the BPEL "standard". We know that there are different specifications of business process languages. But from our point of view the only relevant to become a general standard ist BPEL

Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-13 Thread Ben Anderson
Oliver, Thanks for the input... > van der Aalst? actually I've got his paper open right now, but haven't finished it yet. > there is *NO* standard BPM language My jury is still out on this (xpdl)... I haven't made my yet through the entire spec yet. > Did you consider this in your search, or do

Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-13 Thread oliver charlet
Hi Ben, at your evaluation, did you also take a look at the workflow patterns from van der Aalst? He too did some surveys about workflow specifications and it seems, that a lot are not really sufficiant, to solve all modelling problems. Resulting are implementations, that do only part of what i

Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-13 Thread Ben Anderson
we've actually been evaluating open source workflow engines. I focused on osworkflow for a while and was rather indifferent about it and have now (just the last day) started investigating enhydra shark. So far, it seems to be the best, but I haven't played with it too much yet. -Ben On Wed, 12

Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-12 Thread oliver charlet
Hi Markus, it is a late answer, but if you did not yet make up your mind about an BPM Tool - this is a very serious desicion to do - , go to http://www.jbpm.org and check the extensive sources about the subject. Although the site is about one solution, that is more and more mentioned as to be the

RE: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-10 Thread Jonas . Kilian
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Re: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-02 Thread Reinhard Poetz
Markus Heussen wrote: Hi! Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a new project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business processes consisting off several Web Service calls. One

RE: Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-02 Thread Mikael Björn
//jbpm.org/ I hope that this was enough help to get you started! Any questions? Mail me! /Mikael Björn CTO MBCG > -Original Message- > From: Markus Heussen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:18 PM > To: users@cocoon.apache.org; dev@cocoon.apache.or

Business-Process-Management with Cocoon?

2005-01-02 Thread Markus Heussen
Hi! Can anybody point me to Open Source BPM Systems using comfortable user (web-) interfaces to design business processes in standard BPL. In a new project starting next week we need such a tool to define our business processes consisting off several Web Service calls. One tool I found is Twist