en to have some guidelines or sample app to take a look at?
Cheers,
Robby
-Original Message-
From: Thorsten Scherler [mailto:scher...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 5:08 PM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: cocoon migrate from 2.1 to 2.2 or 3 (was Re: Forms and maps)
The whole thr
Thorsten,
thank you for your feedback. Yeah, I think I will switch to C3 some day
near, that is, if we'll decide to continue with Cocoon. One app is on
it's way to final. How succesful it is, will make quite a big difference
whether we continue or not. I hope we do.
- mika -
On Thu, 19 Apr
On 04/18/2012 09:36 PM, Mika M Lehtonen wrote:
Ouh,
I didn't realize what kind of the avalanche of arguments I would
start. Maybe this tells that there is something bubbling under.
I don't want to hurt anyones feelings. I don't want bad blood.
No, no bad blood at all.
I think there are so
Ouh,
I didn't realize what kind of the avalanche of arguments I would start.
Maybe this tells that there is something bubbling under.
I don't want to hurt anyones feelings. I don't want bad blood.
I think there are so many different level persons involved in this, that
it will cause some misun
The whole thread had changed the subject a long time ago ...
On 04/18/2012 03:29 PM, Mark H. Wood wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:34:26AM +0200, Derek Hohls wrote:
It all depends on your environment and the "rate of change". There are
many back-end systems (running on old but reliable technol
gle framework
Robby
-Original Message-
From: Mark H. Wood [mailto:mw...@iupui.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:29 PM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forms and maps
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:34:26AM +0200, Derek Hohls wrote:
> It all depends on your environment
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:34:26AM +0200, Derek Hohls wrote:
> It all depends on your environment and the "rate of change". There are
> many back-end systems (running on old but reliable technology) that
> hardly change at all. However, the web (and now tablets/mobile) has a
> very high rate of ch
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:54:40AM +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> On 04/18/2012 11:24 AM, m...@digikartta.net wrote:
[snip]
> > Half of us would be out of jobs?
>
> jeje actually that is point of view. I know of colleagues that maintain
> some buggy developments and earn a good living. The pro
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:30:58AM +0200, Robby Pelssers wrote:
> You should read this article 'Why Good Programmers Are Lazy and Dumb'
> http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2005-08-24-n14.html
>
> I think it's not so much about losing our jobs but about
> - trying to become more productive (gettin
ts involved in a safer way.
Robby
-Original Message-
From: m...@digikartta.net [mailto:m...@digikartta.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:52 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forms and maps
Torsten,
I understand your points.
Still, it depends on what are trying to ach
reasonable adapter. It balances the Costs involved in a safer
way.
Robby
-Original Message-
From: m...@digikartta.net [mailto:m...@digikartta.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:52 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: Re: Forms and maps
Torsten,
I understand your point
On 04/18/2012 11:24 AM, m...@digikartta.net wrote:
Absolutely. But trying to stay on the edge of the trends won't fit for
us all.
And continous rewriting of apps doesn't make any sense. Why on earth
we can't create something that would last at least a decade?
jeje, I actually know about some
Torsten,
I understand your points.
Still, it depends on what are trying to achieve, how much do you have
time for it and what are your skills and competence. Also, from the
point of the business view, there is a concept of opportunity costs. It
may be reasonable to go on with the old framework
oon still is and certainly will be
for the near future the best choice for transforming XML.
Cheers,
Robby
-Original Message-
From: m...@digikartta.net [3] [mailto:m...@digikartta.net [4]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:58 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org [5]
Subject: Re: Forms a
On 04/18/2012 07:58 AM, m...@digikartta.net wrote:
Ciao Alberto,
you'll probably right.
What comes to Cocoon lifecycle, I don't get it. Has C3 anything in
common with C2 except the concept of pipelines? Can you do the same
things with it?
When C2.2 was published, I fell off the wagon because
t choice for transforming XML.
>
> Cheers,
> Robby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: m...@digikartta.net [3] [mailto:m...@digikartta.net [4]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:58 AM
> To: users@cocoon.apache.org [5]
> Subject: Re: Forms and maps
>
> Ciao Alb
es not mean the previous products were of
poor quality.
Robby
-Original Message-
From: m...@digikartta.net [mailto:m...@digikartta.net]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:25 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org
Subject: RE: Forms and maps
Absolutely. But trying to stay on the edge of t
future the best choice for transforming XML.
Cheers,
Robby
-Original Message-
From: m...@digikartta.net [3] [mailto:m...@digikartta.net [4]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:58 AM
To: users@cocoon.apache.org [5]
Subject: Re: Forms and maps
Ciao Alberto,
you'll probably r
> your requirements. If that is all about building dynamic forms wicket
> might be a good fit. Cocoon still is and certainly will be for the near
> future the best choice for transforming XML.
>
> Cheers,
> Robby
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: m...@digi
Hello,
I would like to share my opinion on C3. I think that dropping support for
the most of native Cocoon components is a good step forward. As you see
trends now in enterprise applications, everybody from RedHat to Oracle
limits the amount of code from bare application server core engine making
g
Subject: Re: Forms and maps
Ciao Alberto,
you'll probably right.
What comes to Cocoon lifecycle, I don't get it. Has C3 anything in
common with C2 except the concept of pipelines? Can you do the same
things with it?
When C2.2 was published, I fell off the wagon because of tec
Ciao Alberto,
you'll probably right.
What comes to Cocoon lifecycle, I don't get it. Has C3 anything in
common with C2 except the concept of pipelines? Can you do the same
things with it?
When C2.2 was published, I fell off the wagon because of techical
differences. C3 knocked me out for good
On 04/13/2012 07:18 PM, Mika M Lehtonen wrote:
> Interesting,
> I am also integrating maps into sites produced with Cocoon 2.1x. I
> have no answer to you but maybe we could collaborate on this issue?
> OpenLayers widget would be something!
Just some considerations.
I like very much cocoon, its ph
Interesting,
I am also integrating maps into sites produced with Cocoon 2.1x. I have
no answer to you but maybe we could collaborate on this issue?
OpenLayers widget would be something!
cheers,
mika
13.4.2012 20:03, Alberto kirjoitti:
Hi,
I'm using cocoon 2.1.12-dev and I'm facing how to in
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