dragonfly-users wrote @ Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:57:32 -0700:
> Maybe you can write the proper autoconf macros that can be used by
> others?
He said, auto* is bad!
> I maintain two fairly large software packages: one is configured
> by a set of include file and some build system which I must maintain
dillon wrote @ Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT):
> So the answer is no... we are going to have to move to (almost
> certainly) pkgsrc and fix whatever issues we have with it.
Well, currently ports are still better than pkgsrc. And the way pkgsrc is
being forced upon us, politically i
tomaz.borstnar wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 07:20:30 +0200:
> Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > Well, currently ports are still better than pkgsrc.
> Ports have warm feeling for us, because we use them for so long, not because
> they are generally best there.
Mine is a technical standpo
sdrhodus wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:59:25 -0400:
> On 15 Aug 2005 00:17:07 -0000, Andreas Hauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > dillon wrote @ Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:27:44 -0700 (PDT):
> >
> > > So the answer is no... we are going to have to move to (almost
>
dillon wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:31:40 -0700 (PDT):
> Unless you suggest we go it alone... but I don't think that will work
> any better.
I doubt that we will ever have the manpower to maintain our own big
package system unless we we use a parasitic approach in which we
take well mainta
joerg wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:05:47 +0200:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 02:25:04PM -0000, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > From time to time one will "svk sync" to import the FreeBSD changes.
> > The conflicts will not be to many because our changes will mostly
> > be in
joerg wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:10:19 +0200:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 11:39:59AM -0000, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > - no portupgrade
>
> I stated before that I don't agree with this FOR TECHNICAL REASON.
> portupgrade is a hack, it sometimes works and sometimes doesn'
joerg wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 22:31:02 +0200:
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 04:51:02PM -0000, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > joerg wrote @ Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:10:19 +0200:
> > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2005 at 11:39:59AM -0000, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > > > - no portupgrade
>
hmp wrote @ Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:26:37 +0100:
> Can we not just go with an established packaging suite like the one found
> in Debian and modify it for our use?
>
> It's certainly more established than pkgsrc, and has more packages.
I think you have a flaw in your thinking, there, where you assume
talon wrote @ Wed, 17 Aug 2005 10:20:40 +0200:
> Andreas Hauser wrote:
> >
> > When labor is not that cheap, you need better technology
> > to accomplish similar. That is what ports/pkgsrc is. It makes
> > producing those packages much easier, so that less people
&g
hmp wrote @ Thu, 18 Aug 2005 02:28:19 +0100:
> Well, to be honest with you Jon, I certainly haven't tried sending "compat
> patches" to Kris or any of the senior ports people so I am not going to
> judge on that basis. If someone has tried this and got denied, please
> speak up; this is a tang
jfrazer wrote @ Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:58:59 -0500:
> The reason I'm not running it right now is lack of good binary packages
> and a good package management system. I don't have time to mess around
> with source builds which may or may not work. I want an upgrade path
> that has a good probability
mhellwig wrote @ Thu, 18 Aug 2005 15:22:47 +0200:
> When DF is SSI clusterable, then of course it is going to be on the
> average company desktop, there is no way I am continuing to throw away
> all this CPU power & other resources when I _have_ an option to use it
> even if it means that some
fcash-ml wrote @ Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:58:39 -0700:
> On August 25, 2005 12:45 pm, Rob Andrews wrote:
> > [25-Aug-2005 17:59.00 (BST) / Chris Pressey]
> > Be warned, grub may not support the ufs filesystem you choose to
> > install it upon. If grub can't read the stage2 files from your
> > filesyste
nmlunix wrote @ Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:49:49 -0500:
> Hello,
>
> I've installed DF 1.2.5 on a Compaq Laptop recently, and cvs'd the dfports
> collection; On a 'make install' many errors erupt due to FreeBSD MK files
> missing. My concern is, is it possible to install any ports on DF, as a
> stand-
dillon wrote @ Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:19:11 -0700 (PDT):
> The BSD Certification group is looking for whatever long term download
> statistics we might have, and I'm rather interested myself :-).
> If any of our mirrors have such statistics, please post them or URLs
> that point to them
joerg wrote @ Sat, 3 Sep 2005 15:32:41 +0200:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 03:16:52PM +0200, Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote:
> > Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> > >>I've done a native install now, and I still can't build X.org - is
> > >>there a patch I should know about?
> > >There's a bug in GCC 3.4 on
joerg wrote @ Sat, 3 Sep 2005 14:09:39 +0200:
> On Sat, Sep 03, 2005 at 11:46:57AM +0200, Michel Talon wrote:
> > As far as recovery after a crash is involved, clearly nothing beats
> > journalling, and i have to say that performancewise, i have the
> > impression that Linux journalled filesystem
dillon wrote @ Sat, 3 Sep 2005 09:49:03 -0700 (PDT):
> A friend of mine swears by linux, but curses just about every filesystem
> he tries (and curses UFS as well). Linux FS's have a lot of hype but
> the only thing that they really have going for them is the 'instant
> reboot' fe
reed wrote @ Sat, 3 Sep 2005 21:20:01 -0700 (PDT):
> I need to find out where these can all be mirrored from. I have 3025
> packages.
Good work :)
Provide an URL and i mirror them.
Andy
bsddiy wrote @ Wed, 05 Apr 2006 17:27:02 +0800:
> Chuck Tuffli wrote:
>
> > On 4/4/06, David Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Is there any dragonflybsd .iso I can install on intel ICH7
> >> south bridge based machine ?
> >
> > I was able to install 1.4 on a ECS PF5 Extreme (Intel 945 based w/
>
terry.tree wrote @ Thu, 6 Apr 2006 14:27:33 +:
> On 4/5/06, Petr Janda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Apparently im overworked, stressed out, scared from up to 20 speeding
> > offences
> > and losing my license. I didnt realize rc.conf had dspam=NO in it.
>
> How is dspam ? I switched to gma
joerg wrote @ Sat, 8 Apr 2006 15:37:02 +0200:
> On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 10:28:19AM +0200, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > Alas it has legal problems in .de as it intentionally slows down the
> > communication, which is not allowed (although i don't know how this
> > would end
joerg wrote @ Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:35:54 +0200:
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 08:34:00PM +0200, Thomas Schlesinger wrote:
> > thanks for your reply. I didn't install the iwi_firmware. How can I it? I
> > can't install it with pkg_add (I'm a litke bit confused about installing
> > software, as I've enc
joerg wrote @ Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:01:05 +0200:
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:50:09AM +0200, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > joerg wrote @ Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:35:54 +0200:
> > > You have to get the firmware manually, either from
> > > http://damien.bergamini.free.fr/iwifw/
Hoi,
Since cvsup is still not building, people might want to consider
switching to mercurial:
http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.php/Mercurial
It's quite fast too.
--
Andy
justin wrote @ Mon, 8 May 2006 10:16:35 -0400 (EDT):
> On Mon, May 8, 2006 8:09 am, Stefan Kr�ger wrote:
> > I can't connect to http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/, and I think I'm not
> > the only one
> >
> > Anybody knows what's going on?
>
> THe hosting company where it's locating is having some issu
jcm wrote @ Wed, 10 May 2006 16:31:05 +0100:
> Sorry I've been Missing In Action, but I've had to install Linux on my new
> laptop just to get it to work.
>
> Has anyone tried getting sbcl lisp to run?
I had it working at one point:
http://www.splashground.de/~andy/dragonfly/sbcl-0.8.19.patch
Kn
saw wrote @ Tue, 09 May 2006 12:34:38 +0200:
> Thomas Schlesinger wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > when I shutdown my notebook (ASUS V6800), I get a message to power it of on
> > console, but it doesn't happen "automagically" as in Linux. I believe to
> > remember, that I've read somewhere something about
danial_thom wrote @ Mon, 29 May 2006 16:59:06 -0700 (PDT):
> Is anyone using DragonflyBSD in any serious
> production servers yet? Any feelings about how
> it measures up in its current state
> performance-wise?
One of the ftp.fortunaty.net mirrors ran DragonFly for 2 years or so.
Latest uptime
Hoi,
we have setup a replacement wiki two weeks ago. And since today this wiki is
reachable via http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/ and a daily backup is here:
http://ftp.fortunaty.net/DragonFly/wiki/dragonflywiki.tbz
--
Andy
danial_thom wrote @ Fri, 2 Jun 2006 16:56:34 -0700 (PDT):
> > Danial Thom wrote:
> > > Just took a quick look at some ethernet
> > drivers
> > > in 1.5.3. Is there a write-up on how all this
> > > serialization stuff works?...
> >
> > Does this help any? (I don't pretend to
> > understand it...
talon wrote @ Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:21:38 +0200:
> Marcin Jessa wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:00:01 +0100
> > Max von Seibold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FreeBSD is not especially glorious to install but at least such trivial
> things are solved by the installer since ages. Anyways the pres
talon wrote @ Sat, 03 Jun 2006 15:21:38 +0200:
> Marcin Jessa wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 03 Jun 2006 11:00:01 +0100
> > Max von Seibold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FreeBSD is not especially glorious to install but at least such trivial
> things are solved by the installer since ages. Anyways the pres
talon wrote @ Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:06:48 +0200:
> Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > The thing is once you installed BSD and learned its ways it
> > gets easy. While on the otherhand the more "userfriendly" Linux
>
> We are explicitely speaking of newcomers here, not of p
joerg wrote @ Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:50:52 +0200:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 09:58:08PM +0200, Thomas Schlesinger wrote:
> > For NVidia, may be the driver code for Haiku OS (ex OpenBeOS) could be
> > helpful: http://web.inter.nl.net/users/be-hold/BeOS/NVdriver/index.html
>
> I hate to repeat myself,
iacovelli_mail wrote @ Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:28:14 +0200 (CEST):
Hoi,
> I lose my personal userd id and password to login
> dragonflywiki. How can I have these informations?
I guess you mean your old account is not working in
the new wiki. As sad as it is. The old wiki data got
lost, including ac
dillon wrote @ Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:16:17 -0700 (PDT):
> We don't really need toor any more. If it comes to it, you will always
> get a /bin/sh if you boot single user.
Not always is it possible to boot into single user, e.g. on remote hosts without
serial console access.
--
Andy
bastyaelvtars wrote @ Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:54:55 +0200:
> Yeah, it's me again. I have read the according wikipage and read info
> about pacman as well and it looks good. Now I would like to ask whether
> it conflicts with pkgsrc, and if so, will there be resolution, and
> whether integration is
erik-wikstrom wrote @ Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:43:12 +0200:
> On 2006-08-14 17:54, Gergo Szakal wrote:
> > Yeah, it's me again. I have read the according wikipage and read info
> > about pacman as well and it looks good. Now I would like to ask whether
> > it conflicts with pkgsrc, and if so, will th
vivek.ayer wrote @ Tue, 15 Aug 2006 15:02:12 -0400:
> On 8/14/06, Erik Wikström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 2006-08-14 19:20, Francis Gudin wrote:
> > > On 14-08-2006, Erik Wikström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Pacman was ported from Archlinux.
> I usually don't post in DragonFly user
csaba.henk wrote @ 17 Aug 2006 05:52:41 GMT:
> I vividly disagree with these very common opinions. No Linux based
> package manager system was designed to be a 3rd party package manager.
> They are for managing every bit on the systems.
>
> This *is* an important difference from ports-like syste
csaba.henk wrote @ Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:48:04 +0200:
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2006 at 02:05:25PM +0200, Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > csaba.henk wrote @ 17 Aug 2006 05:52:41 GMT:
> In one sentence: I can see how can you change DESTDIR with a chroot
> trick, but I don't see how you cou
dillon wrote @ Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:34:02 -0700 (PDT):
> Xen is an operating environment. Operating systems running under Xen
> have to be aware that they are running under Xen.
Unless you use a current processor (Intel or Amd e.g.) which come with hardware
virtualization. There are only
wa1ter wrote @ Sat, 21 Oct 2006 10:25:31 -0700:
> Andreas Hauser wrote:
> > dillon wrote @ Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:34:02 -0700 (PDT):
> >
> >> Xen is an operating environment. Operating systems running under Xen
> >> have to be aware that they are running und
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