Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-06-06 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Sun, June 6, 2010 1:49 pm, Matthew Dillon wrote: >Let me make this clear. We need to have basic dns utilities in the >system base that are NOT dependent on the bind or any other dns serving >package being installed. > >The whole point is to give users the ability to pkg_remove b

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-06-06 Thread Matthew Dillon
Let me make this clear. We need to have basic dns utilities in the system base that are NOT dependent on the bind or any other dns serving package being installed. The whole point is to give users the ability to pkg_remove bind and pkg_add something else and not have it break core

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-06-06 Thread Jan Lentfer
Francois Tigeot schrieb: [...] Of course, the server part of the package is completely useless to me. A minimal bind9-client pkgsrc package would be ideal, IMHO. FreeBSD does have this in ports now. But acutally they are just building a fully static version of the entire bind distribution a

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-06-06 Thread Francois Tigeot
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 12:45:39PM -0400, Justin C. Sherrill wrote: > On Sun, June 6, 2010 5:12 am, Jan Lentfer wrote: > > Jan Lentfer schrieb: > >> After another discussion I have decided to do the following: > >> I will only remove BIND from base, no ldns and drill import. So anyone > >> wanting

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-06-06 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Sun, June 6, 2010 5:12 am, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Jan Lentfer schrieb: >> After another discussion I have decided to do the following: >> I will only remove BIND from base, no ldns and drill import. So anyone >> wanting to have either of the both will have to install them from pkgsrc >> (before u

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-06-06 Thread Jan Lentfer
Jan Lentfer schrieb: After another discussion I have decided to do the following: I will only remove BIND from base, no ldns and drill import. So anyone wanting to have either of the both will have to install them from pkgsrc (before updateing their world, I would recommend). We will see unt

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Jan Lentfer
Jan Lentfer schrieb: Ok, I am a little bit puzzled and also frustrated now. I only brought libldns and drill in because a lot of people on IRC claimed dig or something like dig needs to be in base. ldns is only used for that, so if we don't want drill in base I can also kick ldns again, no probl

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Chris Turner
Freddie Cash wrote: If you just need to verify that DNS works (resolve hostname to IP), then what's wrong with "ping some.host.com "? ;) Kills two birds with one stone: DNS lookups work, and Internet connection is live (if using a hostname on the Internet). ok fair en

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Chris Turner wrote: > Sascha Wildner wrote: > >> The only question is: Do we want to _maintain_ a drill and libldns in our >> base from now on? Because that's what we would have to do if it's in base. >> > > there needs to be some way to verify DNS out of the box.

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Chris Turner
Sascha Wildner wrote: The only question is: Do we want to _maintain_ a drill and libldns in our base from now on? Because that's what we would have to do if it's in base. there needs to be some way to verify DNS out of the box. period. without pkgsrc. period. this is non optional, IMHO. oth

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Samuel J. Greear
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Jan Lentfer wrote: > On Thu, 6 May 2010 06:04:19 -0500 (CDT), "Jeremy C. Reed" > wrote: > >> Were the kqueue issues in DragonFly itself looked at/fixed? > > Afaik it is a bug in BIND and Samuel send a report to ISC. > > Jan > I received a follow-up from ma...@isc,

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Thu, 6 May 2010 06:04:19 -0500 (CDT), "Jeremy C. Reed" wrote: > Were the kqueue issues in DragonFly itself looked at/fixed? Afaik it is a bug in BIND and Samuel send a report to ISC. Jan -- professional: http://www.oscar-consult.de private: http://neslonek.homeunix.org/drupal/

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Sascha Wildner
Am 06.05.2010 13:06, schrieb Antonio Huete Jimenez: +1 for having something like dig/host in base. You could easily have it by just installing bind from pkgsrc (or drill, as you prefer). And new installations would have it anyways because it comes on the LiveCD. The only question is: Do we

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Antonio Huete Jimenez
+1 for having something like dig/host in base. 2010/5/6 Jan Lentfer : > On Thu, 6 May 2010 19:10:07 +0900, YONETANI Tomokazu > > wrote: >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 11:50:25AM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: >>> This is the final Call. I will push my BIND removal patch-set sometime >>> really soon, proba

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Thu, 6 May 2010, Jan Lentfer wrote: > The stability problem has been worked around in pkgsrc nad packages > are available now. Were the kqueue issues in DragonFly itself looked at/fixed?

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Thu, 6 May 2010 19:10:07 +0900, YONETANI Tomokazu wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 11:50:25AM +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: >> This is the final Call. I will push my BIND removal patch-set sometime >> really soon, probably today. You can use bind form pkgsrc as a >> replacement >> (either build loc

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-05-06 Thread Jan Lentfer
This is the final Call. I will push my BIND removal patch-set sometime really soon, probably today. You can use bind form pkgsrc as a replacement (either build locally or using prebuild binaries). The stability problem has been worked around in pkgsrc nad packages are available now. Justin already

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-22 Thread Samuel J. Greear
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Jan Lentfer wrote: > >> After playing around with this back and forth for a while I think I found >> the problem. Well, not actually the problem but a bypass to the BIND >> crashes. When building any version of BIND from

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-22 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Jan Lentfer wrote: > After playing around with this back and forth for a while I think I found > the problem. Well, not actually the problem but a bypass to the BIND > crashes. When building any version of BIND from base autoconfigure will > enable kqueue support which seems t

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-22 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Thu, April 22, 2010 2:40 pm, Jan Lentfer wrote: > Jan Lentfer schrieb: >> I will now upgrade my home server to this >> kqueue-disabled version of BIND and report later. > > This works stable for my now since I applied the patched and rebuild BIND. I filed PR pkg/43195 on this.

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-22 Thread Jan Lentfer
Jan Lentfer schrieb: I will now upgrade my home server to this kqueue-disabled version of BIND and report later. This works stable for my now since I applied the patched and rebuild BIND. Jan

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-14 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 08:35:18 +0200, Jan Lentfer wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:22:03 +, Chris Turner > wrote: >> Chris Turner wrote: >>> http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/~lentferj/dragonfly.git >> >> was pointed out that I was using http url.. DOH > > please stick to bind95 from pkgsrc for n

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-13 Thread Michael Neumann
2010/4/13 Chris Turner > Justin C. Sherrill wrote: > >> Don't a number of Linux systems ship without those tools unless added via >> a separate package? I know, I know - "it's that way in Linux" isn't >> necessarily a compelling reason. >> > > AARRGGHH! > > yeaah, and in most "distros" so is the

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Jan Lentfer
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 06:22:03 +, Chris Turner wrote: > Chris Turner wrote: >> http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/~lentferj/dragonfly.git > > was pointed out that I was using http url.. DOH Hi Christ, please stick to bind95 from pkgsrc for now. I experienced many problems with bind96 (9.6.1-P3) f

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Turner
Chris Turner wrote: http://gitweb.dragonflybsd.org/~lentferj/dragonfly.git was pointed out that I was using http url.. DOH

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Chris Turner
Jan Lentfer wrote: As already announced I will push in my BIND removal patch-set to master in the next few days. So anyone running a base-BIND on their system and upgrading their world after I pushed that in will end up with no named binary around anymore. Hello - I tried to checkout your re

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Jan Lentfer wrote: > > > > named_flags="-c named.conf" > > > > > > > > Why? > > > If I don't set it named refuses to start with: > Apr 12 21:58:49 epia named[49440]: none:0: open: /etc/named.conf: file not > found I propose that the package be fixed so it is built

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Jan Lentfer
Jeremy C. Reed schrieb: On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Jan Lentfer wrote: Copy or link the rc script to /etc/rc.d/ # ln -s /usr/pkg/share/examples/rc.d/named9 /etc/rc.d/ Don't link, copy. It seems a link is not working during boot. Probably /usr/pkg not mounted yet? Possibly. But /u

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010, Jan Lentfer wrote: > > Copy or link the rc script to /etc/rc.d/ > > # ln -s /usr/pkg/share/examples/rc.d/named9 /etc/rc.d/ > > Don't link, copy. It seems a link is not working during boot. Probably /usr/pkg not mounted yet? > # cp /usr/pkg/share/examples/rc.d/named9 /etc/rc

Re: HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-12 Thread Jan Lentfer
Jan Lentfer schrieb: Have to correct my own guide :-(. This is working np it seems only when doing it manually but in my experience it didn't work correctly after reboot anymore. Go to /usr/pksrc/net/bind96 (or bind95) and install the BIND package # bmake all install clean Copy or link the

HEADS UP: BIND Removal. Short instructions for migration to pkgsrc-BIND

2010-04-11 Thread Jan Lentfer
As already announced I will push in my BIND removal patch-set to master in the next few days. So anyone running a base-BIND on their system and upgrading their world after I pushed that in will end up with no named binary around anymore. So I compiled a step by step guide on how to migrate you