Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-31 Thread Gary Yang
It means that Adobe is old, I hope some other company can recognize and take over Flash Platform. -Gary On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Tom Chiverton wrote: > On 27/03/14 12:49, Alain Ekambi wrote: > >> With no offense with the people working at Adobe on this list. >> But how a company can be

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-31 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 27/03/14 12:49, Alain Ekambi wrote: With no offense with the people working at Adobe on this list. But how a company can be this stupid ? http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalmarketing/web-experience/adobe-experience-manager-mobile-app-announcement/ The response is up : http://blogs.adobe.com/flas

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/27/2014 5:11 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote: Now can IntelliJ help you refactor that method/file/variable and have it update everywhere they are used ? Yes! 2014-03-27 22:08 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser >: On 3/27/2014 4:04 PM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: >

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Alain Ekambi
Now can IntelliJ help you refactor that method/file/variable and have it update everywhere they are used ? 2014-03-27 22:08 GMT+01:00 Jeffry Houser : > On 3/27/2014 4:04 PM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: > >> > Am I missing something? >> >> In FlashBuilder you can right click any method, property, eve

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/27/2014 4:04 PM, Peter Ginneberge wrote: > Am I missing something? In FlashBuilder you can right click any method, property, event, etc.. and select: References -> Project or References -> File And it will list all the references, you can click them and it will jump to them. Sup

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Alain Ekambi
And dont get me even started about refactoring large JS code base :) 2014-03-27 21:09 GMT+01:00 Peter Ginneberge : > > Also, most of them had never heard about Adobe Flex as a mobile app tool. > > > > This says it all IMO. > > > On 27/03/2014 18:23, Cadu Alves wrote: > >> Alain, >> >> I'm new he

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Peter Ginneberge
> Also, most of them had never heard about Adobe Flex as a mobile app tool. > This says it all IMO. On 27/03/2014 18:23, Cadu Alves wrote: Alain, I'm new here and also new working with Flex and AIR (~3 months of work in my first app). I've been working as a web developer for about 10 years. A

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Peter Ginneberge
> Am I missing something? In FlashBuilder you can right click any method, property, event, etc.. and select: References -> Project or References -> File And it will list all the references, you can click them and it will jump to them. Super handy in large projects and I use tha

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
t; regards > -Original Message- > From: omup...@gmail.com [mailto:omup...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of OmPrakash > Muppirala > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:38 PM > To: users@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Saul DIaz wrote:

RE: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Saul DIaz
27, 2014 1:38 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Saul DIaz wrote: > Well http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/adobe-abandons-linux/10418 > > They already abandoned linux so is not really fully cross platform > anymore and there

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2014-03-27 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
gt; Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:02 PM > To: users@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... > > We're about half way through adobes promise to support flash player and air > for 5 years - so abandonment shouldnt be a problem for a while yet (fingers > crossed). > &

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
gt; Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:02 PM > To: users@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... > > We're about half way through adobes promise to support flash player and air > for 5 years - so abandonment shouldnt be a problem for a while yet (fingers > crossed). > &

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2014-03-27 Thread flex
much different than both of these in that it's a pretty robust presentation layer on a single runtime/language with a project composition similar to classical languages. David -Original Message- From: OmPrakash Muppirala To: "users@flex.apache.org" Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2

RE: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Saul DIaz
(was expected) saul -Original Message- From: Lee Burrows [mailto:subscripti...@leeburrows.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:02 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... We're about half way through adobes promise to support flash player and air for 5 years - so a

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread OmPrakash Muppirala
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Sean Thayne wrote: > I agree, I'm pretty sure JS has Backtraces, and Breakpoints, so I think > it's pretty much the same. > > -Sean Thayne > > > On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Jeffry Houser >wrote: > > > On 3/27/2014 1:45 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote: > > > >> @Cad

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2014-03-27 Thread Lee Burrows
zmatad...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:45 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... @Cadu There is this illusion that HTML/CSS/JS is "easy" to do. But as requirements change, the codebase grows and the team becomes bigger then you start seeing the pain of pur

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Cadu Alves
l Message- > From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatad...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:45 PM > To: users@flex.apache.org > Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... > > @Cadu > > There is this illusion that HTML/CSS/JS is "easy" to do. > But as requirements change,

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Sean Thayne
I agree, I'm pretty sure JS has Backtraces, and Breakpoints, so I think it's pretty much the same. -Sean Thayne On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Jeffry Houser wrote: > On 3/27/2014 1:45 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote: > >> @Cadu >> >> >> >> I m mainting a 5 years old web application. >> I wish HTML/CS

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 3/27/2014 1:45 PM, Alain Ekambi wrote: @Cadu I m mainting a 5 years old web application. I wish HTML/CSS/JS was easy to do. Things like "I want to find where this method is getting called" becomes almost impossible to do. I don't understand why finding where a method gets called would be

RE: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Steve Lewis
going to abandon AIR. Steve -Original Message- From: Alain Ekambi [mailto:jazzmatad...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:45 PM To: users@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... @Cadu There is this illusion that HTML/CSS/JS is "easy" to do. But as requirements chan

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2014-03-27 Thread Cadu Alves
Alain, I agree with you. My manager introduced me to Flex Mobile. I can't imagine creating mobile apps without a great debugging tool or know what is going on with the phone's memory and other resources. I don't know how to manage it with JS. Is it possible? Att, Cadu de Castro Alves Web & Mobi

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2014-03-27 Thread Alain Ekambi
@Cadu There is this illusion that HTML/CSS/JS is "easy" to do. But as requirements change, the codebase grows and the team becomes bigger then you start seeing the pain of pure JS development. I m mainting a 5 years old web application. I wish HTML/CSS/JS was easy to do. Things like "I want to f

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Cadu Alves
Alain, I'm new here and also new working with Flex and AIR (~3 months of work in my first app). I've been working as a web developer for about 10 years. All of my colleagues which are web dev as well are starting creating mobile apps using HTML/CSS/JS tools, such as PhoneGap (most of them). IMHO

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread flex
- From: Alain Ekambi To: "users@flex.apache.org" , jef...@dot-com-it.com Sent: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... @Jeffry Just thinking ... I m Adobe CEO On one hand I have this awesome runtime I bough from Macromedia. Great tooling. Great community. Great result

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Alain Ekambi
@Jeffry Just thinking ... I m Adobe CEO On one hand I have this awesome runtime I bough from Macromedia. Great tooling. Great community. Great results over the years. Trully cross plarform. Performs wells. On the other hand I have this CSS/HTML/JS based bridge I bought from Notobi. Perfor

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Jeffry Houser
Can you enlighten me as to why this is stupid? [Maybe this list isn't the place for this conversation, though] On 3/27/2014 8:49 AM, Alain Ekambi wrote: With no offense with the people working at Adobe on this list. But how a company can be this stupid ? http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalmarket

RE: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Sugan Naicker
@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: Ahhh Adobe... @Peter Great Stuff. cant wait to see this come together in a easy to use way. I ve been doing the same with GWT Basically cross compile from Java and run inside PhoneGap. Keep up the good work. 2014-03-27 14:28 GMT+01:00 Peter Ent : > Well,

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Alain Ekambi
@Peter Great Stuff. cant wait to see this come together in a easy to use way. I ve been doing the same with GWT Basically cross compile from Java and run inside PhoneGap. Keep up the good work. 2014-03-27 14:28 GMT+01:00 Peter Ent : > Well, now that you mention that (FlexJS and PhoneGap), t

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Peter Ent
Well, now that you mention that (FlexJS and PhoneGap), that's what I've spent the last few days doing. I've just completed a POC of moving a FlexJS app to a mobile device using PhoneGap. Basically, I followed the instructions for PhoneGap and created a shell application. I then cross-compiled a Fle

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 27/03/14 13:15, Matthew Weir wrote: There was a link from that article to this article:http://www.enhancedonlinenews.com/news/eon/20140324006508/en/Apple/iBeacon/Android which seems to explain a bit more detail on the subject. And the race to get our FlexJs project on PhoneGap starts in 3.

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Matthew Weir
There was a link from that article to this article: http://www.enhancedonlinenews.com/news/eon/20140324006508/en/Apple/iBeacon/Android which seems to explain a bit more detail on the subject. On Thu, 3/27/14, Tom Chiverton wrote: Subject: Re: Ahhh

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Peter Ginneberge
I want my Macromedia back.. On 27/03/2014 13:49, Alain Ekambi wrote: With no offense with the people working at Adobe on this list. But how a company can be this stupid ? http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalmarketing/web-experience/adobe-experience-manager-mobile-app-announcement/

Re: Ahhh Adobe...

2014-03-27 Thread Tom Chiverton
On 27/03/14 12:49, Alain Ekambi wrote: With no offense with the people working at Adobe on this list. But how a company can be this stupid ? http://blogs.adobe.com/digitalmarketing/web-experience/adobe-experience-manager-mobile-app-announcement/ I'm unclear. What the hell is this product ? A