The article is very pro-LibreOffice but so many of the comments have a
hilarious amount of FUD in them. One wonders if they have ever even tried
either MSO or LO.
Most people who "own" StarOffice or many of its forks don't use it. They
just open and print documents with it. If someone tried t
"webmaster-Kracked_P_P":
THE best alternative to MSO. How many spell checking dictionaries do you
want?
The built-in spellchecker is absolutely useless. First, it does not support
options. Second, it doesn't have thematic and user dictionaries available.
Third, the checking method itself is
"Kieran Peckett":
Erm... It does have user dictionaries, you just click the "Add" button!
Those are wordlists, not dictionaries. Generally useless for languages other
than English.
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Due to certain requirements need to add hyphens at the end of each
paragraph to complete the final line. Is there a way to do it
automatically
so I can create a template?
You can try setting the right aligned tabulator along the paragraph's right
margin with hyphen filler. Then it would be su
"calle2013":
BUT, I just found the solution! LO acutally looks at what IME I am using
when typing! If I select Finnish as my input language in the Win7 IME then
You can either check 'Ignore input language' checkbox in Language options,
or to add both Swedish and Finnish input locales, choosin
"Milos Sramek":
I observe that LibreOffice and MS Office display even simple documents,
containing just a few paragraphs with numbered and bulleted lists,
differently. I would like to understand the situation and to know
This is an intentional strategy of vendor lock-in using ODF document
fo
So I suppose it could be IE 8 not knowing what to do with this particular
type of cert - I'm going to switch to FireFox soon and have local LO help
working now so not gettiing into fixing it.
Internet Explorer relies on system cryptography libraries, which don't
support AES in Windows XP. The
"Virgil Arrington":
This has been fascinating reading all of the opinions about user
interfaces and the dreaded ribbon. I've not found *anyone* who actually
likes the ribbon. I agree with several of you who have observed that the
ribbon makes using styles much harder. And, since it's harder to
no longer conflict with document panes.
I.e. split panes for a document window.
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"Tom Davies" :
It is unlikely the LibreOffice website is infected because it runs on
unix-based platforms such as Gnu&Linux.
Linux is getting malware regularly mostly targeting Web-servers for serving
other kinds of malware via IFRAMEs and similar methods.
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"Mirosław Zalewski"
Selecting text and hitting Ctrl + M (or going to Format → Clear direct
formatting) should have the same effect.
Ctrl+M does not change outline level.
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"Pablo Dotro":
I am beginning a large writing project, that will most probably take the
form of a self published, free ebook. And while I have created very
long, complex documents before, I have never formatted them as a book.
But I find that there is a gap between
the techniques described there
"Tom Davies":
Note that IE is made by a 3rd party competitor that has good reason to want
to see LibreOffice (and all other OpenSource products) fail. The more they
can do to discredit LibreOffice the more likely they are to sell more of
their own product and make more money. So, if IE doesn
I just checked in Firefox, and the certificate for
https://www.libreoffice.org has a certificate
with a CN for www.libreoffice.org, so I'm not sure what the problem
is... unless of course they've already fixed it.
Here's the certificate.
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LibreOffice is NOT just a cheap knock-off of MS Office. It has different
ways of doing things. A different ethos. Sometimes it does things that
MSO can't. Sometimes it leaves certain things, such as emailing, to other
products so that you can choose between alternatives to suit your needs.
only around 12% of the current code is untouched OOo code!!
Do you understand that this comes from an obsolete diff tool which treats
trivial changes like indents and comments as an entirely new code?
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Thanks, Andrew; I hadn't noticed this before. My LO 3.4 directory is
still present, but practically empty.
All the modified files such as extensions and dictionaries are not removed,
so I cannot see a problem there.
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Opens fine with 4.1 in Windows 7.
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Though it looks fine in Word, in LibreOffice (v. 4.0.4.2), there is a hyphen
within a small gray block between almost every syllable through the
document.
Those are soft hyphens added by a software which doesn't support automatic
hyphenation, like Word or LO do.
You can remove them by replac
"Andrew Brown":
So the open document standards were
born and ratified and accpeted by the majority of the world that counts.
Microsoft is using an open standard format called OpenXML. Stop pushing your
vendor-locked ODF crap here please.
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"Virgil Arrington":
I hope the LO developers are motivated by a desire to produce a great
product that can be
used worldwide.
No, they are motivated by an attempt to commodize office software market for
promoting 3rd party software and hardware. Another major reason are huge
bribes given to
Just know that they are taking a knock, what with Windows 8 only
migrating into less than 2% of the world market of their existing XP and
Windows 7 base
Windows 8 already has a market share of Windows XP and Vista combined on
newer hardware (It's about 9 times of Linux marketshare, btw.).
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So the step I am missing to accomplish my task, it is how to "register"
a new language in order to be seen in the combo box in the spelling
checker dialog.
Unlike Microsoft Office, it cannot be done. The code changes must be made.
So you will have to stick to dummy language names.
If that is a
https://bugs.freedesktop.org
Product: LibreOffice
Component: Linguistic
Severity: enhancement
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Can you help me to do this, is there any tutorial or something? How to
build aff and dic so it can be tested?
This one is a good start: http://linux.die.net/man/4/hunspell
To test it with LO, download some dictionary extension, rename it, throw
away unneeded files and make corresponding change
According to http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey, Windows 8 is working on
14% of computers.
It's more than 10 times Linux marketshare.
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Are you aware OpenXML
perpetuates that year 1900 Excel bug and makes it standard? Did you
know about all the non-disclosed binary blobs that are part of OpenXML?
It is much more better than an ODF, which documents nothing, and depends on
a reference implementation from a single vendor, Sun.
"April Preston":
This is really annoying. Last tonight I downloaded LibreOffice 4 hoping the
overwrite would end the problem, but no luck. Can I get help to remedy
this?
Put this into Explorer's address bar:
C:\Users\%USERNAME%\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\user\backup
If there are any fi
"e-letter":
...maybe epub for electronic archives.
EPUB is an Apple/Adobe proprietary format not supported beyond iF...
devices, which is missing critical features needed for books.
It's not an option.
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"James Knott":
BTW, don't forget about them making that year 1900 Excel bug an ISO
standard.
* Lotus 1900 bug.
Microsoft has introduced a 1904-system.
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"Joaquín Lameiro":
Please name me any 3rd-party reader which supports HTML5 and CSS3
sufficiently enough to provide all the features one can expect from a book.
That so-called standard is too expensive for independent implementation and
cannot guarantee acceptable results.
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"James Knott":
Here's an article you can show to others.
http://lifehacker.com/battle-of-the-office-suites-microsoft-office-and-libre-1147940828
What a ridiculous article. The LO suite inadequacy is clear to any who
worked with it more than 15 minutes. The reason for this is implementing
fea
"Paul":
Yeah, bad troll is truly terrible.
Meanwhile you could work on a feature parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, from
1991.
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"Werner F. Bruhin":
Now a productive use of time would have been to tell us what the one
feature you would like to have which existed in Word 2.0 in 1991 and
doesn't exist in LO.
Paragraphs longer than 65k characters?
Custom languages?
Normal view?
(Working) multiple indexes?
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"Brian Barker":
You can set the language of words, phrases, sentences,
whole paragraphs, or whatever differently from their surrounding text
in many ways.
...and their list is hard-coded. Unlike MSO...
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"Virgil Arrington":
Have you tried to install 'hyphen-en-us' package?
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"Tom Davies":
The Wubi is installed inside Windows and depends on MS Windows co-operating
with the Ubuntu. Various crucial systems such as the boot-loader and the
file-system are basically MS systems instead of the proper Gnu&Linux ones.
That has no relation to the system stability.
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"Malcolm Moore":
In LO ( 4.1.1 on Linux ) can I remove the spell checker ( not turn off ) ?
Uninstall either hunspell-XX (or myspell-XX) package, or hunspell library
packages entirely.
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"Kracked_P_P---webmaster":
MSO has very few spell checkers other than US English, compared to LO.
They are immensely more primitive than MSO ones, though. Just compare the
English or Russian dictionaries with ORFO's ones. Also, you can have a
spellchecker for any language in MSO, like Kazakh
It is weird that a version of LO comes out the same week as the newest MSO
after a 3 year wait between versions. I am glad LibreOffice does not make
you wait 2 or 3 years between versions.
And I would be glad if LO ever obtain the feature parity with MSO 2003. But
apparently it requires actual
"Chad Homan" :
My question is, is LO 4.0 suppose to be the release that supports 120% of
MSO97.
Not yet, it does not support 100% of MS Word 2.0 (from 1992) yet.
Of course it has some bells and whistles and even a couple of useful
features, but still no cigar.
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"Johnny Rosenberg":
Those people who think LibreOffice should
look like MS Office, why don't they just keep using MS Office instead?
Because they are cheapscates, but they still want a modern text processor,
not something from Windows 3 times. That is their right which everyone
should respec
"Tom Davies":
On the other hand MS Office still does not support many features of
LibreOffice yet either.
Like custom toolbar backgrounds? I think people can live without those.
For example the Student's version of MSO doesn't include Publisher or
Access.
Why does a student need Publisher?
I really like how my "LibreOffice Reptile Skin 1" Persona design works
out on LibreOffice 4.0.0.
Seriously? It's so bright that it's unusable.
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"Virgil Arrington":
I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it opens
in the same window size and position it was in when I closed it the previous
session.
Position the window. Maximize it. Exit. Start LO again. Restore the window.
See now?
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"Tom Davies":
Whenever you install Windows or upgrade, such as from Xp to Win7 the Windows
installer kindly 'fixes' the MBR to point at the Windows boot-loader
(NTldr).
Windows backs up the existing boot sector and adds it to the boot menu via
boot.ini or BCD entry.
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"Tom Davies":
By default most versions of Gnu&Linux (lets just call them distros) have a
set of "repos" (=repositories) which are a bit like vast warehouses of
programs and other software.
...Because Linux is inherently broken and cannot run vanilla builds of
software. Also repositories keep
"James Knott":
Have you actually used Linux and
installed apps on it?
I've been using Linux since 2001, and that is exactly as the matter stands.
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The advantage of the repository is when a new version is released, it
will automatically be updated and only one version is on the machine.
The version in repository is fixed for the distribution release and never
updated. There is no any advantage in this. The absurd requireme
"Brian Grainger":
Using the standard process for downloading from the download page the
LibreOffice install file came as a *.MAN file.
It's a Web server misconfiguration. Just rename it to .MSI manually.
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"Robert Holtzman":
The fact that you use the generic term "linux" instead of citing which
distro
In 2001 I used Mandrake Odyssey 7.
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"MirosławZalewski":
Perhaps these are reasons why most modern operating systems (Mac OS X,
iOS, Windows 8, Android) have "stores" built-in, which essentially
**are** repositories.
They are as different from Linux repositories as it can get. There is only
one appstore for all clients and it alwa
"Tom Davies":
Usually when you buy a desktop computer it already has Windows installed.
Then after a couple of years the machine has become old and slow and needs
replacing so another Windows machine gets bought. At no point does anyone
install Windows, or at least not many people.
I believ
"Paul":
False
*What* is false? There are two 250MB packages of LibreOffice differing in
extension only. That's ridiculous.
Which distro updates software in repositories?
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"T. R. Valentine"
Per the LO help, use $1 in the replace box, rather than \1.
You need to use '\N' for backreferences in the Search field.
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"Jan":
After I launched
it then, it immediately and completely illogically asked me about
“restoration” of files I had at the time open in running Open Office.
Please elaborate.
didn't authorize such nonsense, but your software instead of leaving the
files alone deleted the files and destroy
What do your image references look like ("href" attribute of tag?)
You can place all the images in the archive manually and fix their hrefs to
include the filename only, i.e.
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And that is great, as Microsoft Office is designed not by copycats, but for
people who actually know what the Office is for.
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"Les Howell":
Just a simple question, Do you know who originally designed Microsoft
Office?
Microsoft mostly.
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"Kracked_P_P---webmaster":
MS was the bigest copycats there was back in the early days. They
"stole" from any package that could get away with.
I was working in the computer field when Apple came out with the first
Mac, and then many of those ideas were used to make the first Windows
OS.
It is
"Kracked_P_P---webmaster":
90% of the businesses users I know of use less than 10% of the features
and functions that MSO has.
BTW, you know what one can do with Word 2.0 but not with
StarOffice-rebranded-for-a-third-time? Creating section templates, a rough
analog of section styles. Because t
"Jay Lozier":
Microsoft did not develop the first office productivity packages.
There were no 'office packages' before Microsoft Office.
Several predated any MS offerings and were available before the IBM-PC
was released.
They didn't design the first, but they have designed the best.
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"P NIKOLIC":
You trying to be funny
Which one is (or was) better then?
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"Charles-H. Schulz":
Many people who contribute to the LibreOffice
project discussed the need for us to understand how we could enroll
"regular" users (whatever that means) to the LibreOffice project.
The LO project is suffering from rock star syndrome: through all those years
there is a bunch
"jonathon":
That must be a reference to the fact that the mean time between starting
MSO on Windows, and seeing the Blue Screen of Death is under sixty
seconds.
/yawn
Or maybe it is a reference to the fact that MSO 2013 is so completely,
utterly, and absolutely incompatible with MSO 2013,
FUD
"yahoo-pier_andreit":
but
if J1 is $A$1:$D$5
and the formula:
=VLOOKUP(1,J1,2,0)
the formula doesn't works
You probably want INDIRECT function to create a reference from string.
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"Mario Splivalo":
Once in the past I stumbled upon a blog where owner explained how one
can create a Calc document from the data that's in the XML file.
You may try XSLT to get a Flat ODS file.
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"Les Howell"
Microsoft hated the competition
and so captured the control-J function (which happens to be a line
feed.) This meant that the Windows systems would not run Wordstar.
That's bullshit. Ctrl+J is a shortcut for Justify and... a paragraph mark in
text controls.
The Wordstar team
"Fredrik Jordas":
Hello, have some problem to download a Swedish version of Libreoffice in my
Finnish version of Windows7-64.
It makes no difference, as you select the UI language during the
installation.
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"Virgil Arrington":
Actually, WordStar had different Ctrl+key functions than Word. Yes, today,
Ctrl+J is a shortcut for Justify, but back in the WordStar days, Ctrl+J did
something different...
If it worked in Microsoft Word, how the hell it was 'captured' and
'unavailable' for Wordstar, wha
Simple. The evil machinations of Microsoft.
I will repeat. If any and all Windows application could use Ctrl+J for
anything, why WordStad suddenly couldn't?
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"Paul":
Microsoft, as the developers of the
OS, put code in their OS to capture the Ctrl+J key combination, and not
pass it on to the foreground application. However, they also put in
code to allow an application to request that the key combination be
passed on, code that most people, including
"Don Myers":
Some of the things Microsoft has done are chronicled here in a report
to the European Commission a number of years ago:
One cannot hold in a smile while reading that whine. In particular, the
Wordstar case of 'shell namespace extensions', which a text processor (Even
MS Office on
"James Knott":
That AARD code was one. They also used hidden API as was revealed when
Borland sued them and more.
'AARD code' was not in any retail version of Windows. It is fake.
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"Per Hyttel Larsen":
I am trying to find out if there is a hyphenation module for LibreOffice for
the Chinese language (traditional and/or simplyfied). Can any of you direct
me towards someone who can answer this question?
There cannot be a hyphenation module for Chinese language, as the
hi
"James Knott":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AARD_code
Quote:
Microsoft disabled the AARD code for the final release of Windows 3.1
It's a myth.
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\([:digit:].*?[:digit:]\)
works as non-greedy for me (two replacements), and just ".*" as greedy (1
repl.) for your example.
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"Adam Tauno Williams":
but it seems I really need an
anchor-to-paragraph-getting-as-close-as-you-can option without either
crashing into other frames or leaving a blank inch and a half on the
previous page.
I'm afraid only DTP applications can ensure adequate placement of drawings.
There's
"Per Hyttel Larsen":
I know that in e.g. Korean there are a few rules as to where you may break a
sequence of glyphs. Some must be kept together and be on the same line.
For Chinese/Japanese only some punctuation (like parentheses and quotes) is
kept with following/previous text.
That list ca
"M. Fioretti":
...shall-we-waste-twelve-more-years-promoting-free-office-suites-instead-of-open-office-formats/
There's no such thing as 'open format'. Any format can only slavishly
describe its reference implementation. There is no reference implementation
for ODF, except a monstrous ***Offic
"Paul":
Don't worry, you can safely ignore Urmas, he's a known troll around
these parts;
You're welcome to name a full reference implementation of ODF format not
using the OO.o/Staroffice code.
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"Paul":
...to do
what some company (like Microsoft) thinks you should be able to do, and
only if you pay them very well, open source software believes that
everybody should be able to do whatever they want. That's the very
nature of Open Source: you have the source, change it if you need to.
Oh
"Leif Burstroem":
It would be nice if the listing of last used document was split up so when I
use writer I will only get the last used writer documents...
I recall there was a discussion about this and the decision was to keep it
as it is now.
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If you want to save an invoice in m$ format, why have you not bought a
legal copy of m$?
BIFF is a Microsoft format now? What an idiot.
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"Charles-H. Schulz":
The only way users can contribute is when they are paying. If a developer is
paid for non-user-related applications, it will have the ubiquitous
opensource mentality: "I'm a GOD and you insolent worm will crawl on all
fours at my feet because it pleases me to do so". Obvio
"Charles-H. Schulz":
Also, it might be useful to remember that developers tend to
contribute because they only want to and find a particular interest in
doing so. Maybe it's for a plain old business interest, but when you're
a volunteer developer, which is the case of the largest majority of
deve
"M Henri Day":
For those who missed it, here a link to a fascinating TechReport on
München's experience in migrating to open sourceIt might worth noticing that the migration took more than 13 years, several
times of the planned budget, and required all the computers to be replaced
with newer
"Regina Henschel":
I do not like the idea to remove characters or group them in another
way. The Unicode groups are well defined and easy to handle.
Unicode groups are non-intuitive and mostly disjointed. Characters like
arrows are impossible to find there.
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"Tom Davies":
The article itself clearly states that the project was easily within
budget. Plus the organisation didn't have to upgrade any hardware.
See paragraphs 6 & 7 under the heading "Cost".
The report is missing the salaries. Also, there is no way the machine with
Windows NT could run U
"M Henri Day":
«[N]o way in which the machine [sic !] with Windows NT could run Ubuntu
10.10 ...» One of the more absurd comments I've yet seen, as anyone here
can verify by checking the Ubuntu system requirements, available here
I'll just note that 512 MB was _the hardware memory limit_ for m
"minhsien0330":
So I want reduce the size of Libreoffice as small as possible.
You cannot do that without breaking functionality.
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"John Kennedy"
Why can you not buy a computer that is already configured to dual boot?
Because no one needs it.
Or why is it so difficult to buy a computer with no operating system?
Because people buy computers to work, not to tinker with.
Microsoft has decreed to computer manufacturers n
"Virgil Arrington":
I'm no fan of MS, and I'm sure I don't fully understand all of its business
practices, but I truly hope that disdain for Redmond is not the primary
motivation for LO and other forms of FOSS.
Foss people are hurt that no one is interested in their bungles except
occasional co
"James Knott" сообщил(а) в новостях следующее:529918d1.30...@rogers.com...
...and then hold [created documents]
hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office.
There is immense number of software capable import DOC files, due to their
format being virtually unchanged since 1997 or 2007. Incl
"Peter West":
Non-FOSS (BSD-licensed software):
Mac OS X (based on BSD and the Mach kernel)
Linux
gcc
Developed by commercial companies:
Android (based on Linux)
apache
Firefox
OpenJDK
saxon
LibreOffice
So far FOSS 'community' created nothing successful. Everything was designed
and implemente
"Pedro":
...a free ODF compatible software (LO or other)
That's nonsense. There is the only one ODF software: OpenOffice and its
clones. The entire format is built around the single application from a
single vendor.
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"tk":
b) There are office suites that are not deroved from either OOo or MSO that
fully implement ODF specifications and criteria.
And those are... right, none.
There is a reference implementation for the ODF file format.
And it is called...
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"Tom Davies":
...Rtf never achieved MS's promise of being an interoperable
format either.
RTF is just a textual dump of document structures. It is as close to
lossless interchange format as it can be.
However ODF is a lot more secure
All text formats are secure as they do not contain machi
"James Knott":
Ever hear of Linux?
Linux is a clone of UNIX, an epitome of a proprietary operating system.
it's the OS used on the space station.
Proven a hoax by Agency.
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