Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-24 Thread Sander Temme
On May 22, 2009, at 5:39 AM, John Hudak wrote: WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Don't ask us, ask them. S. -- Sander Temme scte...@apache.org PGP FP: 51B4 8727 466A 0BC3 69F4 B7B8 B2BE BC40 1529 24AF smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-24 Thread Res
One would assume the Apache Debian packager is on this list, perhaps they would like to comment as to why they do this, but I suspect they will not. Nothing beats the source install, if you screwup it takes seconds to revert to previous version and you know you are using just that version. I

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-24 Thread Res
Sander, Maybe a vote should be taken to issue notice to them, to cease renaming key apache components, its bad enough the butchering they do, but renaming is crossing the line IMHO, as we've just seen why in this thread, for every one you hear, you know there's many thousands more you don't.

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-24 Thread Lester Caine
Res wrote: Sander, Maybe a vote should be taken to issue notice to them, to cease renaming key apache components, its bad enough the butchering they do, but renaming is crossing the line IMHO, as we've just seen why in this thread, for every one you hear, you know there's many thousands more

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-24 Thread Res
On Sun, 24 May 2009, Lester Caine wrote: This is a general anarchy problem with everybody reinterpreting the 'rules' for standardisation of the directory structure to their own ends. Since the Not just directory naming, they rename binaries as well *THAT* is my key objection :) -- Res

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-23 Thread James Carroll
Not to add to the hijack, but I hear ya brother. I've been trying to get a local HTTPd/bugzilla set up for the last two weeks. I tried using the Ubuntu/Debian packages and not only do they splay files (seemingly) wherever they feel like it, they change the names so that the online product doc is

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-22 Thread John Hudak
Hi: I don't want to hijack this thread, but since the question has been answered, I have a related one...WHY does the Debian distro 'relocate' things such as apache? Since I've been getting into the guts of Debian and Ubuntu over the last 2-3 years, I am finding a lot of 'non standard' things

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-22 Thread Eric Covener
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 8:39 AM, John Hudak jjhu...@gmail.com wrote:  Forexample, their use of bin, and sbin, and root being acquired by 'sudo'.. Just curious... Aren't those all pretty conventional? -- Eric Covener cove...@gmail.com

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-22 Thread John Hudak
I've seen apps installed in sbin, and /home/username when from my perspective, they should have been in bin. While I haven't used a lot of different distros (slackware, RH (prior to their business model change), and commercial Unix distros by att, sun, dec, HP), I've never run into 'sudo'...I can

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-22 Thread Stephen
John Hudak wrote: I've seen apps installed in sbin, and /home/username when from my perspective, they should have been in bin. While I haven't used a lot of different distros (slackware, RH (prior to their business model change), and commercial Unix distros by att, sun, dec, HP), I've never run

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-22 Thread Igor Cicimov
There is not httpd on Debian/Ubuntu. It's called apache2 and /etc/apache2 is the config folder. To check if apache is installed and where you run the dpkg command, something like this: # sudo dpkg -s apache2 and # sudo dpkg -S apache2 Igor On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Stephen

[us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc No httpd binary. Apache works though What

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Peter J Milanese
find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr/sbinnothing I did a locate for httpd and I get /etc/apache2/httpd.conf stuff in /usr/lib/apache2 stuff in /usr/share/doc

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Jimmyboy
: find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle
nothing.. -Jason On May 21, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Peter J Milanese wrote: find / -name httpd - Original Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Frank Gingras
Message - From: Jason Todd Slack-Moehrle [mailingli...@mailnewsrss.com] Sent: 05/21/2009 07:34 PM MST To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04 Hello All, am I blind, I am trying to install ColdFusion on Ubuntu 9.04 and it asks for where httpd is. I looked in /usr

Re: [us...@httpd] Httpd on Ubuntu 9.04

2009-05-21 Thread Res
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Frank Gingras wrote: The debian maintainers though it would be suitable to rename it to apache2 / apache2ctl. See: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout I often wonder who is worse, Micro$oft or Debian, both want everything their way. My solution for the