RE: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Boyle Owen
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:n...@ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Nicholas Sherlock Jfyi: you might also try free and not widely recognized, http://cacert.org/ Won't certificates signed by them be only useful for internally-deployed apps? They're not a trusted root on

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread André Warnier
Boyle Owen wrote: ... It's worth remembering what a certificate is for; it is a document, undersigned by a third-party, that confirms that you are who you say you are. The third-party certificate signing authority is putting their reputation on the line and has a moral (even a legal)

RE: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Boyle Owen
-Original Message- From: André Warnier [mailto:a...@ice-sa.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:09 PM To: users@httpd.apache.org Subject: Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate? We are a services company, and provide websites to select customers, for their own usage

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Joseph Morgan
It sounds to me like you are hosting their sites... meaning you have virtual hosts, etc.? If I go to my bank and open a checking account... fine... it's free. However, if I want a safe deposit box, I'll have to pay... unless... maybe if I keep X amount of money deposit accounts with the

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 02:43:10PM +0200, Boyle Owen wrote: It's worth remembering what a certificate is for; it is a document, undersigned by a third-party, that confirms that you are who you say you are. The third-party certificate signing authority is putting their reputation on the line

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Mark H. Wood
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:09:25PM +0200, André Warnier wrote: While not contradicting the essence of the above, I would like to know something for my own edification, if some expert could comment. I don't think of myself as an expert, but I'm free with my opinions. :-) [a desire to secure

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Joseph Morgan
That said, the most expensive gold-plated cert. you can buy may not be worth much more, in your application, than one you could get for half as much. This is absolutely correct...except that some may appreciate the fact that you're using the gold-plated cert. That is, it sounds much better to

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread János Löbb
On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:40 AM, Mark H. Wood wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 03:09:25PM +0200, André Warnier wrote: While not contradicting the essence of the above, I would like to know something for my own edification, if some expert could comment. I don't think of myself as an expert, but

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Schober
* Joseph Morgan josephmmor...@hotmail.com [2009-07-22 17:47]: In the cert world, your customers would likely rather see that your certs are signed by Verisign than by pimpmycert.com As if they could tell the difference. If both root CAs are in the browser's root chain, why shouldn't they

Re: [us...@httpd] Re: Low priced certificate?

2009-07-22 Thread Nick Kew
Nicholas Sherlock wrote: An attacker can use precisely the same mechanism to serve their own certificate. Your website will have carefully trained the user in advance to ignore all security warnings and accept the rogue certificate. What a waste of time. The only thing you're protecting