Re: Blacklisting Nouveau

2010-02-01 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Bruno Wolff III wrote on 02.02.2010 00:08: > [...] > Though maybe smarter packaging by the rpm fusion people could > make using the proprietary nVidia drivers more newbie friendly. > [...] Definitely, as there is a whole lot of room for improvements (at least as far as I can see from my point as l

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/01/2010 10:51 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Assuming it's an r5xx series card (it can't be r6xx or higher because you > said the Catalyst driver doesn't support it anymore), Fedora 9 updates / > Fedora 10. It was added in this update: > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/package-announce/20

Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?

2010-02-01 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >>   I finally decided install Adobe Reader 9. It turns out there is a >> lot more to this document than a simple 4-page form. Rather, it is a >> collection of a dozen inter-dependent forms with various em

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: > And what you are saying is that someone can't get support for the video > card in his/her brand spanking new computer that they just bought at the > computer storeassuming it has the latest and greatest video card > from whatever manufacturer. Weird. "whatever manuf

key logger

2010-02-01 Thread Amadeus W.M.
Is there a standard keylogger for F12? I've found lkl and uberkey on the web, but I'd prefer to stay within F12. Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://f

Re: help with... F9

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 03:19:46 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > I would call this "the geek disorder"... In a geek-encouraging bleeding edge > distro like Fedora, I expect most of the people to behave like this. Myself > included. :-) It's not really bad until you start checking the koji

Re: help with... F9

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Tuesday 02 February 2010 02:55:17 Patrick Bartek wrote: > As far as updates: If an app or utility or library works just fine, no > problems--they usually do from the initial install--why be concerned over > the latest update? But I see it all the time. It must be some kind of > complusiv

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 02:20:38 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 01 February 2010 22:58:13 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > And look what just came out today: > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng > > OH, WOW! :-D > > I was just about to opt-out of the discussion be

Re: help with... F9

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 13:24 -0800, > Patrick Bartek wrote: > > I usually, at least for the past 4 or 5 years or so, > only upgrade > > every 3rd release as this seems to offer an optimum > balance among > > security, stability, support and features

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 17:23:40 -0800, Brian Mury wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at > > home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently. > > I also have an rv280 that I have been havi

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 19:38:39 -0500, "Kevin J. Cummings" wrote: > > I think you are missing the point here. Fedora is admittedly a bleeding > edge software distribution that does not support the bleeding edge of > video hardware. How ironic is that? I sure there is plenty of hardware that

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 February 2010 23:58:45 François Cami wrote: > Moreover, according to Wikipedia [2] [3] and others, it seems that > NVIDIA has not released any really new hardware for a long while. > If this is true, you are comparing apples (really new hardware > on new Xorg) to oranges (refreshed old

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/01/2010 08:23 PM, Brian Mury wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at >> home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently. > > I also have an rv280 that I have been having problems with. I'm

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 February 2010 23:53:32 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > And who supports their own hardware at all? Opensource-ness is immaterial > > here, ATI doesn't have *any* drivers which would work in F12, for their > > own latest&greatest graphics card. > > Who cares? That card

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 February 2010 22:58:13 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > And look what just came out today: > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Nzk0Ng OH, WOW! :-D I was just about to opt-out of the discussion because it is getting more and more philosophical, but *this* text... This text i

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 February 2010, Tom Horsley wrote: >On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:35:03 -0500 > >Gene Heskett wrote: >> if I enable pulseaudio, it chooses that for >> the main output, cannot be convinced to ignore it > >Actually, in F12, the advanced audio control app has >a hardware control tab where one of

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Suvayu Ali
Hi Marko, On Monday 01 February 2010 06:23 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Sunday 31 January 2010 20:30:36 Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> I think the current suggestion is to buy Intel or ATI hardware and use >> the open source drivers > When we speak of 3D, ATI just doesn't have decent open source dri

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Brian Mury
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 08:51 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > I don't have access to and r600 or r700 based cards. I have a rv280 at > home and an rv530 at work and both do 3d currently. I also have an rv280 that I have been having problems with. I'm curious if you are using kernel or user space mod

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 16:58 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:52:24 +, > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > > > Unlike ATI, who *claim* to support FS, but actually do so only when the > > hardware in question becomes obsolete. > > r700 series chipsets are hardly obsolete.

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Jim
On 02/01/2010 06:20 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Jim wrote: > >> tail -f /var/log/messages ; >> >> localhost kernel: usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and >> address 6 localhost kernel: usb 2-3: New USB device found, >> idVendor=0c0b, idProduct=b157 >> localhost kernel: usb 2-3: New

Re: Blacklisting Nouveau

2010-02-01 Thread Paul
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Roger wrote: > >> Please explain how Nouveau is the best. Read my comments below before >> responding! >> > > It's the best available in Free Software. The nvidia driver is NOT Free > Software. Fedora supports Free Software and ONLY Free Software. So we ship > Nouvea

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 02/01/2010 05:49 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +, > Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> You are basically listing hardware that is either inferior in performance or >> is going to become obsolete in a year. > > Obsolete? Not for Fedora. Maybe for playing the latest

Re:How do I put Multiple live distro's on a USB flash drive.

2010-02-01 Thread tux
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 8:27 AM, tux wrote: >> > I have an 8GB flash drive that I would like to put multiple Fedora Live >> > CD's on. (KDE,Gnome,LXDE,XFCE, FEL, Games and Edu,Third party spins, etc. >> > ) >> > >> > Does anyone have any advice on how to do this On 02/01/2010 09:03 AM, Don Q

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tom Horsley wrote: > Actually, in F12, the advanced audio control app has > a hardware control tab where one of the modes available > to operate each hardware device is "ignore". I'm now willing to > use pulse in F12 because I can make it ignore my 2nd sound > card which I dedicate to optical outpu

Re: mahjongg gone missing?

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
N James Bridge wrote: > I just have and it doesn't work. All the other games work, but mahjongg > is no longer in the menu and if I try to run it from a terminal I get > this: > > (mahjongg:2863): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_ascii_strncasecmp: assertion `s2 != > NULL' failed > > 10 times over and then >

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread François Cami
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:43:06 + Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 01 February 2010 20:46:52 François Cami wrote: > > > > Of course, I use neither IGPs nor the latest cards. > > Of course you don't, because the latest ATI cards don't work on F12. The reason _I_ do not own anything more curren

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > And who supports their own hardware at all? Opensource-ness is immaterial > here, ATI doesn't have *any* drivers which would work in F12, for their > own latest&greatest graphics card. Who cares? That card is too expensive anyway! At an Austrian price comparison site (but

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:35:03 -0500 Gene Heskett wrote: > if I enable pulseaudio, it chooses that for > the main output, cannot be convinced to ignore it Actually, in F12, the advanced audio control app has a hardware control tab where one of the modes available to operate each hardware device is

Re: mahjongg gone missing?

2010-02-01 Thread N James Bridge
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 09:55 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 11:01 +, N James Bridge wrote: > > > > A trivial point perhaps, but mahjongg (one of the gnome-games package) > > > > has disappeared off the games menu. > WorksForMe. Try yum reinstall gnome-games-extra. > -

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > And much cheaper hadrware. And possibly passively cooled hardware that is > quieter. (The 9200 was a really card for its time. It was inexpensive and > didn't need a separate fan.) That's also a good point. It's a good argument for an integrated Intel GMA chipset, as thos

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 01 February 2010, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >On Monday 01 February 2010 20:11:46 Kevin Kofler wrote: >> Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> > And the fact that they provide support next to none (of their closed >> > source drivers) demonstrates that they *do* care about Linux market, >> > and do take

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the > latest&greatest in available hardware Then you're already making a mistake. The latest hardware isn't always the best. Especially not when it comes to driver support. It's just a big waste of money. > So wh

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Ed Greshko
Jim wrote: > > tail -f /var/log/messages ; > > localhost kernel: usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and > address 6 localhost kernel: usb 2-3: New USB device found, > idVendor=0c0b, idProduct=b157 > localhost kernel: usb 2-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=10, Product=11, > SerialNum

Re: Blacklisting Nouveau

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Roger wrote: > Please explain how Nouveau is the best. Read my comments below before > responding! It's the best available in Free Software. The nvidia driver is NOT Free Software. Fedora supports Free Software and ONLY Free Software. So we ship Nouveau. > May I suggest you visit the Blender.or

Re: Blacklisting Nouveau

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 09:55:32 +1100, Roger wrote: > > Then maybe there should be a blacklist all 3d applications until you > install 3d. > and: > > Fedora is never going to get rid of the best Free as in Speech driver > available for that hardware. > > > Woh! The above comments puzzle

Re: which version of fedora to install

2010-02-01 Thread R. G. Newbury
> Prabhakar Pandey wrote: >> > so can anybody tell me which one should i install f11 or f12 ?? > In general, the latest version is always the best choice. I'd recommend > Fedora 12, it's working great for me. > > Kevin Kofler If you have an Intel video chip and want to use the features o

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:52:24 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > Unlike ATI, who *claim* to support FS, but actually do so only when the > hardware in question becomes obsolete. r700 series chipsets are hardly obsolete. I don't think one would have too much trouble buying one. And look wha

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Jim
On 02/01/2010 05:24 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jim wrote: > [snip] > >> # smartctl --attributes --log=selftest --quietmode=errorsonly /dev/sdc >> smartctl 5.39 2009-12-09 r2995 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build) >> Copyright (C) 2002-9 by Bruce Allen, http:/

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 22:31:22 +, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > Suppose I am a newbie for computers, and I decided to buy the latest&greatest > in available hardware (btw, this can make sense if you don't want your > machine > to be obsolete by tomorrow). So when I get to choose a graphics

Re: Fedora 12 Installation problem

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 13:41 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > I remember at one time being able to have the checksum program compare > the results to the checksum file. Worked great when you were summing > a dozen CDs, but can't seem to find the documentation on that feature > right now. man shasum

Re: Blacklisting Nouveau

2010-02-01 Thread Roger
Then maybe there should be a blacklist all 3d applications until you install 3d. and: Fedora is never going to get rid of the best Free as in Speech driver available for that hardware. Woh! The above comments puzzle me. Please explain how Nouveau is the best. Read my comments below before

Re: help with... F9

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 13:24 -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote: > I usually, at least for the past 4 or 5 years or so, only upgrade > every 3rd release as this seems to offer an optimum balance among > security, stability, support and features with minimum upgrading. Do as you see fit of course, but be a

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 February 2010 20:11:46 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > And the fact that they provide support next to none (of their closed > > source drivers) demonstrates that they *do* care about Linux market, and > > do take the community support seriously. > > I disagree. Provid

Re: Login user name list - modifiy?

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 14:47 -0500, KC8LDO wrote: > Here is a bit of a different question I think. You already sent this same question a few hours ago. Since the new message appears to be an exact copy of the earlier one, with no additional information, it qualifies as spam in my book. poc -- us

Re: [389-users] Fedora DS dies with segfault

2010-02-01 Thread Marc Sauton
On 02/01/2010 01:59 PM, Tom wrote: Hi all, we've been running Fedora DS 1.04 for quite some time without issue but just recently, the server process died inexplicably with the following in syslog: localhost kernel: ns-slapd[2945]: segfault at rip 002a9574d4aa rsp 007fbff

Re: Fedora 12 Installation problem

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Reg Clemens wrote: > > On 10-01-31 18:51:00, Patrick > Bartek wrote: > > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Tony Nelson > > > > wrote: > >  ... > > > > All disks always fail the built-in test > here, due to the > > > > permanent kernel bug.  A more robust test > is: > > > > > > > >  

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 February 2010 20:46:52 François Cami wrote: > > Of course, I use neither IGPs nor the latest cards. Of course you don't, because the latest ATI cards don't work on F12. There is no functional driver, nor open nor closed source. > > oops, sorry... you *cannot* opt for radeon(hd) > >

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Monday 01 February 2010 20:03:40 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Marko Vojinovic wrote: > > You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel > > version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all > > opt to use ATI drivers which don't work at all on current X

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jim wrote: [snip] > # smartctl --attributes --log=selftest --quietmode=errorsonly /dev/sdc > smartctl 5.39 2009-12-09 r2995 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build) > Copyright (C) 2002-9 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net > > /dev/sdc: Unknown USB

Re: Thunderbird & Okular question

2010-02-01 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 21:52 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > They could figure out the MIME type client side using the same > shared-mime-info-based mechanisms which are used after saving the file > (extension, sometimes file contents), either just for generic > application/octet-stream attachments or

Re: More on firefox and one website

2010-02-01 Thread Mike Chambers
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:25 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Try again. > You are an optimist. Accessing this web-page constantly works on my > laptop and not on my desktop. Something is wrong with the F12 on my > desktop and I would like help finding what it is. You try using a diff user and/or r

Re: Fedora 12 Installation problem

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Tony Nelson wrote: > On 10-01-31 18:51:00, Patrick Bartek > wrote: > > --- On Sun, 1/31/10, Tony Nelson > > > wrote: > ... > > > All disks always fail the built-in test here, due > to the > > > permanent kernel bug.  A more robust test is: > > > > > >     # cmp /dev/dvd /

Re: More on firefox and one website

2010-02-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 14:05 -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > On 02/01/2010 08:03 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > Last week I noted on my dwewsktopfirefox could not load the website: > > http://www.tiaa-cref.org > > > > > > I just went to the site and it loads with a notice that they have a new > site.

Re: help with... F9

2010-02-01 Thread Patrick Bartek
--- On Sun, 1/31/10, Roger wrote: > On 01/31/2010 09:33 PM, Erik P. Olsen > wrote: > > On 31/01/10 11:14, Ed Greshko wrote: > >    > >> Kevin Kofler wrote: > >>      > >>> Jake Peavy wrote: > >>> > >>>        > ...I know I should upgrade to F12 (or > whatever) but I don't have time... > >

[SOLVED] Re: Multimedia apps keep messing with my volume

2010-02-01 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 02/01/2010 09:05 AM, Philip Heron wrote: > On 01/02/2010 17:00, Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> On 02/01/2010 04:29 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> >>> On Monday 01 February 2010 09:31:38 Konstantin Svist wrote: >>> >>> VLC, Mplayer, etc. -- whenever I play some clip, the volume c

Re: More on firefox and one website

2010-02-01 Thread Robin Laing
On 02/01/2010 08:03 AM, Aaron Konstam wrote: > Last week I noted on my dwewsktopfirefox could not load the website: > http://www.tiaa-cref.org > > I just went to the site and it loads with a notice that they have a new site. Maybe you had the problem while they were making changes. Try again.

Re: [389-users] Fedora Management Console simply hangs when trying to create user

2010-02-01 Thread Sean Carolan
> Are you running 389-admin 1.1.10? This is what I have installed, all from the yum repo: [r...@fds dirsrv]# rpm -qa | grep 389 389-admin-console-1.1.4-1.el5 389-ds-1.1.3-4.el5 389-admin-console-doc-1.1.4-1.el5 389-ds-console-doc-1.2.0-4.el5 389-ds-console-1.2.0-4.el5 389-dsgw-1.1.4-1.el5 389-adm

Re: Thunderbird & Okular question

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tim wrote: > There's no good way to handle that. It's the generic description for > any binary file (sound, picture, PDF, whatever), that hasn't been > specifically identified. If you were to hard-configure it to presume > PDF, it'd fail on the next thing that wasn't a PDF but described as > bein

Re: which version of fedora to install

2010-02-01 Thread Robin Laing
On 01/31/2010 03:36 PM, Roger wrote: > On 02/01/2010 06:03 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote: >> Prabhakar Pandey wrote: >>> >> You should read the similar thread which has been going on for about a week >> (actually should have before asking), some people have had serious issues >> with >> video support f

Re: which version of fedora to install

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Prabhakar Pandey wrote: > so can anybody tell me which one should i install f11 or f12 ?? In general, the latest version is always the best choice. I'd recommend Fedora 12, it's working great for me. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or cha

Re: Fedora 12 and 11 KDE - No Sound

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Ross wrote: > In the System Settings -> Multimedia -> Audio Output pane the only > device listed now is Pulseaudio. Previously, my Midiman Delta soundcard > was also listed and when I selected that I had sound. Selecting > Pulseaudio has never resulted in working sounds, even before last week

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread François Cami
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:01:45 + Marko Vojinovic wrote: > As for 3D and closed source drivers... If you buy a nVidia card, you can use > their closed source drivers, and they basically Just Work. If you buy an ATI > card, you can use... oops, sorry... you *cannot* use their closed source > d

Re: which version of fedora to install

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bill Davidsen wrote: > You should read the similar thread which has been going on for about a > week (actually should have before asking), some people have had serious > issues with video support for F12. Graphics actually work better in F12 than F11 for my Radeon 9200SE (r2xx series) and just as

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Jim
On 02/01/2010 02:19 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jim wrote: > >> On 02/01/2010 01:43 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jimwrote: >>> >>> On 02/01/2010 11:58 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > Other

Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: > I finally decided install Adobe Reader 9. It turns out there is a > lot more to this document than a simple 4-page form. Rather, it is a > collection of a dozen inter-dependent forms with various embedded > applications which do things such as saving, validation and co

Re: Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller, Detected Tx Unit Hang

2010-02-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 12:31:47 -0700 mh-fed...@loup.net wrote: > - Using Fedora 12. > - Linux 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Nov 7 21:11:14 EST 2009 x86_64 > x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > - Tried switching pci slots, cables, ports, ethtool in different > autoneg/1000/100 configs using all other k

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > As for 3D and closed source drivers... If you buy a nVidia card, you can > use their closed source drivers, and they basically Just Work. If you buy > an ATI card, you can use... oops, sorry... you *cannot* use their closed > source drivers, because they do not support your

D-Link DGE 530-T Gigabit Ethernet Controller, unreliable

2010-02-01 Thread mh-fedora
- Using Fedora 12. - Linux 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Nov 7 21:11:14 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux - Tried switching between two cards, cables, ports, switches, ethtool in different autoneg/1000/100 configs using all other known good hardware. - skge driver gives no errors,

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > AFAIK, nVidia is locked up in closed source licences and non-disclosure > agreements, and that is the only reason why they don't provide specs and > open source drivers. It appears nVidia has good will, but legal issues are > a showstopper. That's bullshit. There are repea

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marko Vojinovic wrote: > You mean as in nVidia drivers taking a week or so to adjust to new kernel > version and reach rpmfusion? Wow, that's a bummer! So you suggest we all > opt to use ATI drivers which don't work at all on current X for several > months now, basically since F12 appeared? And who

Copying F12 systems between disks

2010-02-01 Thread Zbigniew Fiedorowicz
I fell a little behind in updating my Fedora system and was running Fedora 10 on my laptop until a couple of weeks ago. Then I decided to try running Fedora 12 off an external USB disk, to make sure that I wouldn't run into any glitches, in particular that some legacy applications I compile fr

Login user name list - modifiy?

2010-02-01 Thread KC8LDO
Here is a bit of a different question I think. I have an F-11 box I'm setting up to let people access it for some file shares using samba. In order to control the access I created a user for each person I want to allow access. Each user was created without their own group or an account, file in "/h

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robin Laing wrote: > I purchased two new computers (1 laptop) last year. In both cases I > chose nVidia video because I know that they work. Even in F12 and KDE. > I have had Intel video cards and had to replace them with nVidia to > get applications to work properly. Weird, the Intel GM965 on

Intel Corporation 82541PI Gigabit Ethernet Controller, Detected Tx Unit Hang

2010-02-01 Thread mh-fedora
- Using Fedora 12. - Linux 2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Nov 7 21:11:14 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux - Tried switching pci slots, cables, ports, ethtool in different autoneg/1000/100 configs using all other known good hardware. - Upgraded to latest e1000-8.0.18 driver from intel

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Robin Laing wrote: > There is a supposed to be 3D support work through Gallium3D. Now this > is not an option with Fedora as they don't make a RPM for this package. > Maybe it isn't ready yet. I don't know. Without this, I cannot test > the Nouveau driver. It's really not ready. Fedora is qui

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Jim wrote: > On 02/01/2010 01:43 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jim  wrote: >> >>> On 02/01/2010 11:58 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >>> Others may have better advice, but you can try unplugging the drive then as root do "tail -f /va

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Jim
On 02/01/2010 01:43 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jim wrote: > >> On 02/01/2010 11:58 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> >>> Others may have better advice, but you can try unplugging the drive >>> then as root do "tail -f /var/log/messages" and plug the drive back >>

Re: How to get non-console users access to audio / sound device?

2010-02-01 Thread S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: > I did that, but that non-console user still have no access to > audio / sound device as quoted below. Anything else I should > do? I add the user into group jackuser, pulse-access, pulse, and video, but the error below still persist. Any othe

Re: [389-users] Fedora Management Console simply hangs when trying to create user

2010-02-01 Thread Morris, Patrick
Sean Carolan wrote: >>> Anyone have a suggestion how to fix this? >>> >>> >> 389-console -D 9 -f console.log - take a look at the console log >> > > Thanks for your reply, Rich. I tried this and simply got another > console window, but no log entries. Is there a way to do this from > t

Re: [389-users] Fedora Management Console simply hangs when trying to create user

2010-02-01 Thread Sean Carolan
>> Anyone have a suggestion how to fix this? >> > 389-console -D 9 -f console.log - take a look at the console log Thanks for your reply, Rich. I tried this and simply got another console window, but no log entries. Is there a way to do this from the command line instead of the GUI? -- 389 users

Re: Thunderbird issue

2010-02-01 Thread Paolo Galtieri
Rebooting did resolve the problem. One thing I noticed though was that pulseaudio was pegged at 100% so it's possible this might have been part of the problem since TB does have libaudiofile open. Next time it happens I'll check the open files at the time of the hang. This problem occurred after

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Jim wrote: > On 02/01/2010 11:58 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: >> Others may have better advice, but you can try unplugging the drive >> then as root do "tail -f /var/log/messages" and plug the drive back >> in. It may give you some hints as to what's going on. >> >> Ric

Re: which version of fedora to install

2010-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 11:40:17 +0530, Prabhakar Pandey wrote: > actually .. i am a engineering student .. & i have to do mainly programming > and related things.. so i think fedora would be gud ! If you are a tinkerer type, Fedora will probably be a good match for you. You might need to jump

Re: [389-users] Fedora Management Console simply hangs when trying to create user

2010-02-01 Thread Rich Megginson
Sean Carolan wrote: > I'm attempting to add a user to a new directory that I set up for > testing purposes. I have started fedora-idm-console and logged on > successfully as cn=directory manager, but when I hit the "Create" > button to add a new user, the cursor simply sits there spinning, and > s

[389-users] Fedora Management Console simply hangs when trying to create user

2010-02-01 Thread Sean Carolan
I'm attempting to add a user to a new directory that I set up for testing purposes. I have started fedora-idm-console and logged on successfully as cn=directory manager, but when I hit the "Create" button to add a new user, the cursor simply sits there spinning, and spinning Anyone have a sug

Re: Thunderbird issue

2010-02-01 Thread Philip A. Prindeville
On 02/01/2010 09:59 AM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: > I was trying to read my email this AM using TB, but it had hung up. > So I killed it by clicking on the end process button and selecting the > force quit. When I tried to restart TB it's hung up again. Nothing > is displayed, but doing a ps shows 3

Re: Serial port (/dev/ttySX) question.

2010-02-01 Thread Todd Denniston
Gene Heskett wrote, On 30 Jan 2010 02:59 PM: > Precisely, a usleep(5) would be much better . And some man page studying > for rpmbuild options. I tried to edit the .c source, but then it refused to > build and that was not the error it spit out. We'll poke at it some more > tomorrow unles

Thunderbird issue

2010-02-01 Thread Paolo Galtieri
I was trying to read my email this AM using TB, but it had hung up. So I killed it by clicking on the end process button and selecting the force quit. When I tried to restart TB it's hung up again. Nothing is displayed, but doing a ps shows 3 processes. [pgalti...@peglaptop ~]$ ps axlw | grep t

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Jim
On 02/01/2010 11:58 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jim wrote: > >> FC 12-x86_64/kde >> >> I have a Acomdata external hard drive enclosure with a PATA hard drive >> set to Master. >> I want to just be able to read and write to it as a storage drive, lsusb >> sees the

Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?

2010-02-01 Thread Oliver Ruebenacker
Hello, On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 4:29 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Oliver Ruebenacker wrote: >>   On a fully updated F12, I try to open the following link >> >>   http://apply07.grants.gov/apply/opportunities/packages/oppPA-10-063- > cidADOBE-FORMS-B.pdf >> >>   with the default Document Viewer,

Re: Multimedia apps keep messing with my volume

2010-02-01 Thread Philip Heron
On 01/02/2010 17:00, Konstantin Svist wrote: > On 02/01/2010 04:29 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> On Monday 01 February 2010 09:31:38 Konstantin Svist wrote: >> >>> VLC, Mplayer, etc. -- whenever I play some clip, the volume control is >>> adjusted. Sometimes it goes to 100%, sometimes to 0, and oth

Re: Multimedia apps keep messing with my volume

2010-02-01 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 02/01/2010 04:29 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: > On Monday 01 February 2010 09:31:38 Konstantin Svist wrote: > >> VLC, Mplayer, etc. -- whenever I play some clip, the volume control is >> adjusted. Sometimes it goes to 100%, sometimes to 0, and other times to >> something random inbetween. >> Ho

Re: Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Jim wrote: > FC 12-x86_64/kde > > I have a Acomdata external hard drive enclosure with a PATA hard drive > set to Master. > I want to just be able to read and write to it as a storage drive, lsusb > sees the enclosure Acomdata but not the drive, what do I have to d

Re: Multimedia apps keep messing with my volume

2010-02-01 Thread Konstantin Svist
On 02/01/2010 01:47 AM, Hiisi wrote: > 2010/2/1 Konstantin Svist : > >> VLC, Mplayer, etc. -- whenever I play some clip, the volume control is >> adjusted. Sometimes it goes to 100%, sometimes to 0, and other times to >> something random inbetween. >> How do I make it stop?! >> > Do you hav

Re: Blacklisting Nouveau

2010-02-01 Thread Robin Laing
On 01/31/2010 02:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Roger wrote: >> Please Fedora get rid of nouveau until it's the same quality as Fedora. > > Fedora is never going to get rid of the best Free as in Speech driver > available for that hardware. We do not support proprietary drivers, or any > other propri

Using a USB external enclosure with a PATA hard drive ?

2010-02-01 Thread Jim
FC 12-x86_64/kde I have a Acomdata external hard drive enclosure with a PATA hard drive set to Master. I want to just be able to read and write to it as a storage drive, lsusb sees the enclosure Acomdata but not the drive, what do I have to do to read/write to the hard drive ?? -- users mailin

Re: [389-users] The installation error on the 389 LDAP

2010-02-01 Thread Rich Megginson
Ajeet S Raina wrote: > It seems that the 389-ds package are not removed properly. > I faced the issue couple of time and can help you out with the same. > > Step 0:service dirsrv stop;service dirsrv-admin stop >> Most Important > Step 1: Delete dirsrv under /etc There are other files you must remov

Re: A question about Places->Network

2010-02-01 Thread William Case
Hi Aaron; On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 10:00 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: > I asked before but I did not get a definite response, so here goes the > question again. > > Under Gnome or Nautilus does any one when executing Places->Network see > the other Linux machines on the LAN? This worked in F11 but not

A question about Places->Network

2010-02-01 Thread Aaron Konstam
I asked before but I did not get a definite response, so here goes the question again. Under Gnome or Nautilus does any one when executing Places->Network see the other Linux machines on the LAN? This worked in F11 but not in F12. Does anyone know why this change in behavior has occurred? --

Re: radeon driver heading in wrong direction :-(.

2010-02-01 Thread Robin Laing
On 01/31/2010 01:18 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 08:27:04 -0700, >"Christopher A. Williams" wrote: >> >> Nouveau only supports 2D, and the OpenSource Radeon driver has had at >> least as many ...ummm issues as the proprietary driver. >> >> So, if you need true 3D graphi

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